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Old 05-31-2020, 06:37 AM
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Soon enough liberals/socialists will control the country through the democrat party, and we will effectively have one party

So you will find out in short order that the parties are not the same

The parties opperate the same way, but I have way more freedom where I live
Than the losers who live in Pink/Blue States

Nothing will speed-up the demise of Freedom more than liberals/socialists in the guise of the democratic party

If Biden is elected and the Senate goes Pink as well, we will be ****ed so fast it will make you wish for the good old days

So when they start handing out free stuff, I will hand in all my semautomic firearms
Bend over and grab my ankles and start whistiling Dixie

I will get in line for the free stuff and wait for our country to go from the greatest ever to less than euro-trash status in short order

Seems like the Clown car is in full effect here in this thread
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Get rid of the Communists terrorizing our country and breaking the laws of the Constitution and our Bill of Rights. Prosecute those who break those laws.

I do not understand how Communists are allowed to hold office in any branch of our government. It's like giving a known bank robber the job of security officer at a bank.

I also think states should have an electoral college for electing Governors. Too many red states are falling victim to pockets of blue in their cities.
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This is more about the communist dimoCRAPPERS losing control.
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Thing is if you don't vote you guarantee the other! Then you basically should STFU and not complain that you got that.
Your system simply leads to a perpetuation of the status quo. Evidently that's what you want.

Or are being paid to promote.
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Your system simply leads to a perpetuation of the status quo.
Maybe it does but I will be damned if I am going to vote for someone I have never heard of. And I will not be a person who does not vote at all. Calling for a 3rd party isn't new, they pop up once every 4 years and demand we all stop shooting ourselves in the foot but have no substance, no experience and usually a boatload of certifiable crazies in tow.
Myself and MILLIONS of others are just waiting for them to get it together so we can support them! What's taking so long?
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Stop turning to government to fix the problems created by government.

Stop obeying statutes that are not law.

Stop acquiescing to even the best-intentioned violations of the Bill of Rights.

Stop believing that government has authority not delegated to it in the Constitution and consistent with the purposes of the Declaration.

If government were held to its original purpose, it would matter very little who we elected to administer it. It would be like arguing over who got to be the Housecat Tamer in a 3-ring circus.
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Get rid of the Communists terrorizing our country and breaking the laws of the Constitution and our Bill of Rights. Prosecute those who break those laws.

I do not understand how Communists are allowed to hold office in any branch of our government. It's like giving a known bank robber the job of security officer at a bank.

I also think states should have an electoral college for electing Governors. Too many red states are falling victim to pockets of blue in their cities.
The problem with Communists/socialists/leftists is that they have every right to believe what they believe, but the moment they try to implement it, they violate our law and charters. They violate our very raison d'Ítre.

It is as though the fox ran for Henhouse Security, then, once elected, thought he could implement any policy he desired. We find ourselves in the same situation, but we never say to these traitors, "You can believe what you like, but the moment you try to implement socialism, in any form or to any degree, expect bodies."
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Maybe it does but I will be damned if I am going to vote for someone I have never heard of. And I will not be a person who does not vote at all. Calling for a 3rd party isn't new, they pop up once every 4 years and demand we all stop shooting ourselves in the foot but have no substance, no experience and usually a boatload of certifiable crazies in tow.
Myself and MILLIONS of others are just waiting for them to get it together so we can support them! What's taking so long?
The two main parties are doing all they can to make sure no 3rd party ever gets popular support. By insisting a party has to be perfect before you'll support it, you're dancing to their tune.
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Government won't bite the hand that feeds it, and that belongs to the rich. The same goes for the military, businesses, and citizens.
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We actually have a one-Party system. Two opposing sides of the same coin. They pretend to be opposed but the "right" will sign big spending bills that further the leftist agenda and the "left" will sign big spending bills that further the globalist agenda. Neither "side" gives two hoots about the U.S. working class or traditional America.

If we attempted to get a second party started we'd still end up with a split. The Libturds would push for a Bernie Sanders type and the true-right would look for a Thomas Jefferson (and fail to find one).
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The two main parties are doing all they can to make sure no 3rd party ever gets popular support. By insisting a party has to be perfect before you'll support it, you're dancing to their tune.
I don't expect perfection, just more effort than I have seen up until this point.
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You should learn more about Thomas Jefferson before declaring him the be all end all

A a student of Ametican History
I would suggest you read about Samuel Adams

Or if you tend to be a Squish, Benjamin Franklin

Jefferson was a self-absorbed man who while accomplished, was flawed to the core

Samuel Adams 100%

I Heart Washington

Franklin flawed on the outside but a solid core

Washington relied on Hamilton

Jefferson relied on Madison
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You should learn more about Thomas Jefferson before declaring him the be all end all

A a student of Ametican History
I would suggest you read about Samuel Adams

Or if you tend to be a Squish, Benjamin Franklin

Jefferson was a self-absorbed man who while accomplished, was flawed to the core

Samuel Adams 100%

I Heart Washington

Franklin flawed on the outside but a solid core

Washington relied on Hamilton

Jefferson relied on Madison

Jefferson was flawed.

Washington was flawed.
Madison was flawed.
Franklin was flawed.
Adams (all of them) were flawed.


But thanks for completely missing my point. Carry on.
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I don't expect perfection, just more effort than I have seen up until this point.
"no substance, no experience and usually a boatload of certifiable crazies in tow"

Apply your own standards to the two major parties. Do THEY pass the test?

I'll vote for those who support my beliefs and desires. To do otherwise would be to truly waste my vote.
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Both sides look for Reagan clones which promote "leftist" or neo-liberal and "rightist" or neo-conservative agendas.

Neo-liberalism refers to support for free market capitalism through deregulation, which makes the rich richer and leads ironically to the formation of oligopolies and control of the country, and coercion of weaker countries to open up their economies and make them ripe for exploitation. They also expand the power of the global rich.

Neo-conservatism refers to the belief that "freedom and democracy" should take place worldwide and is achieved through coercive foreign policies, "aid" with strings attached, onerous loan agreements, and military intervention. The funds needed for these are supplied by the rich.

What props up the wealth of that rich is the dollar used as a reserve currency, and later for oil trade. Both sides work for the rich because the funds of the gov't come from them. That also means that votes don't matter.

Finally, even the wealth of the public come from the same rich, as all that credit used to create a middle class "American dream" came from them, from goods and services provided to mass entertainment, from televised sports to Hollywood movies and serial features. And the main goal of the public is to maintain that dream.
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Jefferson was flawed.

Washington was flawed.
Madison was flawed.
Franklin was flawed.
Adams (all of them) were flawed.


But thanks for completely missing my point. Carry on.
If an apparent lack of formal education is a point, then I did miss your point.

To crudely lump individuals altogether after saying we need a Thomas Jefferson to save us makes no sense.

Clearly you lack the knowkedge to discern the significant difference between the random list of Founding Fathers I listed
Common sense would tell you that even if they all tried to be the same person, there would still be differences when in reality there were signifucant differences

Your point was made by picking the one of worst of the lot, integrety-wise. Had you possessed the knowledge to make a point worthy of consideration, then your point would be well taken.

But you went ignorantly to the shiny object

You should seriously consider a study of American history if you want to make such a point.

Memo to Action Figure: Everyone is flawed, but some people have significant merit. Crudely saying that everone is flawed, and then believing that you have made some significant insight says it all.
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Get rid of the Communists terrorizing our country and breaking the laws of the Constitution and our Bill of Rights. Prosecute those who break those laws.

I do not understand how Communists are allowed to hold office in any branch of our government. It's like giving a known bank robber the job of security officer at a bank.

I also think states should have an electoral college for electing Governors. Too many red states are falling victim to pockets of blue in their cities.
It's because they say such good stuff and have good vibes generally. Obama despite how much of a traitor he is has that 'vibe' young people go for so he fits their bill. An old fart usually has a 'leave me the f'k alone' kind of vibe so they do.

He gets what he asks for. 90 percent of our language is unspoken or some high number like that. Most of our body is 'signaling' believe it or not very little is actual words but it is enough obviously. Politicians that play their cards right know this very well and boy do they use the 'signaling' to their advantage.
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We actually have a one-Party system. Two opposing sides of the same coin. They pretend to be opposed but the "right" will sign big spending bills that further the leftist agenda and the "left" will sign big spending bills that further the globalist agenda. Neither "side" gives two hoots about the U.S. working class or traditional America.

If we attempted to get a second party started we'd still end up with a split. The Libturds would push for a Bernie Sanders type and the true-right would look for a Thomas Jefferson (and fail to find one).
A lot of right wingers thought Trump was Thomas Jefferson 2.0 but it turns out he is very wishy washy sometimes blowing right other times blows left.
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This is more about the communist dimoCRAPPERS losing control.
Then they act like the Bokolins (or whatever they are called) in Zelda Breath of the Wild when they spot you as their ? mark fills up it becomes a !. Which then they are blowing their horns,jumping up and down getting all excited.etc. Yet anyone with a brain could see the **** coming a mile away!

Yet in Congress their heads are still at the ? stage slowly filling up.

Trump was at the ? stage about the virus for a long time telling people it would just 'go away' in a few weeks. No sirrrrrrrre! Now they are all at the ! stage blowing their horns and looking for the bad guy sniffing around.

As for the riots Trump is still at the ? stage. I wonder how long till that changes?
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Cant say that I ever saw him as anything other than one half of the 2016 Not Him / Not Her vote choice. That said . I really liked that he accomplished more in 2 years than anyof the others managed in 8, including Bubba. Speaking of 8 years, his derugulation allowed me to hit my target retirement amount 8 years ahead of schedule. That alone earned my 2020 vote. I've been working on our retirement property upgrade funds ever since!

Pretty good for a poor kid from a craphole white ghetto, I am loving this administration. A bonus is that he has spent 3.5 years taking the media entertainment talking heads to the woodshed for some way overdue beat downs. When you refuse the responsibilities that come with being the 5th estate, you get size 10ed brutally for the purient entertaiment of all.

Both parties are worthless. Better use of money to have the Marshallate Service enact search warrants on every Congressional office and base criminal prosecutions on the siezed evidence. Start with new parties on notice.
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