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Old 09-23-2019, 09:32 AM
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Where can I buy a good quality United States Marine Corps Ka-Bar combat knife with matching or otherwise appropriate sheath for it, and for how much money? Also, what kind of steel are they made from and what kind of cross-section grind do they have (so I know how to re-sharpen it myself when it goes dull)? I'm new to this type of knife so sorry for all the ignorance.
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Hope you get an answer soon.
Seems like you've been "new to" this sort of thing since around 2015.
Good luck to you and welcome back!

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Cabela's has them.

https://www.cabelas.com/product/KA-B...0PdA&gclsrc=ds
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You can buy direct from K-Bar and get the real thing, Made in USA, no Chinese knockoff. $110 with leather sheath.
Kydex sheath MOLLE compatible optional for another $18.

https://www.kabar.com/products/product.jsp?item=1217

NSN 1095-01-581-9100 KNIFE-COMBAT
BLADE MATERIAL 1095 Cro-Van
ROCKWELL HARDNESS 56-58c
KNIFE COUNTRY OF ORIGIN United States

http://https://www.kabar.com/product...m=1216&cs=1217
ITEM: 1216 Full-size Black Glass-Filled Nylon Sheath Fits and locks in most KA-BAR knives with 7" blades. Does not fit item 1271. Item 1317 fits but locks with retaining strap only. MOLLE Compatible.
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I don't like a serrated edge. I know it can be useful but the rest of the time it hinders normal use of a knife. I sharpen with carborundum, medium India and hard Arkansas . Serrations would likely be hard on stones as well.
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You can buy direct from K-Bar and get the real thing, Made in USA, no Chinese knockoff. $110 with leather sheath.
Kydex sheath MOLLE compatible optional for another $18.

https://www.kabar.com/products/product.jsp?item=1217

NSN 1095-01-581-9100 KNIFE-COMBAT
BLADE MATERIAL 1095 Cro-Van
ROCKWELL HARDNESS 56-58c
KNIFE COUNTRY OF ORIGIN United States

http://https://www.kabar.com/product...m=1216&cs=1217
ITEM: 1216 Full-size Black Glass-Filled Nylon Sheath Fits and locks in most KA-BAR knives with 7" blades. Does not fit item 1271. Item 1317 fits but locks with retaining strap only. MOLLE Compatible.
You can buy the same knife from Smokey mountain knife works for 69.99 and bladeHQ for 79.99. They are both great companies and do NOT sell fakes. The shipping charges will determine which few is best.

The ka-bar website is likely priced high to avoid competing with reseller /partners.
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Any Ka-Bar made to military specs will be fine.
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That includes those currently made by Ontario (~$50) for the US military:



https://www.knifecenter.com/item/ON4...er-handle-8180

I've used both issued and personal versions made by Ka-Bar, Camillus, and Ontario. Never noticed any significant difference out in the field. Good knives all. I preferred not to walk around with USMC stamped on any knives/sheaths. Always got the models without that moniker (I'm retired US Army).

If you're looking for collectible knives, then the older Camillus/Ka-Bar historical period blades (WWII, Korea, Vietnam, etc.) are nice, but pricey. Up to several hundred dollars pricey.

If you're looking for a new "USMC" safe queen to admire and not scuff up, the current Ka-Bar version is arguably the nicest looking (~$80 on sale); naturally, it's a functional user as well:

https://www.bladehq.com/item--KaBar-USMC-Fighting--2446

If you're just looking for a more affordable (but still militarily authentic) version, the current non-USMC marked Ontario model is the way to go.
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http://m.tomarskabars.com/?url=http:...%2Ecom%2F#2839

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If you're looking for a new "USMC" safe queen to admire and not scuff up, the current Ka-Bar version is arguably the nicest looking (~$80 on sale); naturally, it's a functional user as well:.
"safe queen"?! Is that like a "glass case queen"?! Or in the hot-rod, special interest cars and collectible cars community a "trailer queen"?! Hah, hah, hah!
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Seems like you've been "new to" this sort of thing since around 2015.
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Is there some sort of time limit or something like that?
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Is there some sort of time limit or something like that?
Generally people don't consider themselves "new to" something for 4 years but I suppose it takes some folks longer to grasp things than others.

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At this point, if you're not hung up on an actual KA-BAR with USMC stamp on it, you can (as previously mentioned) find a number of equivalent knives from other manufacturers. The steel ought to be 1095 carbon steel, but depending on your sheath preference, you can probably find something other than leather. I have a KA-BAR tanto that, as I recall, has a kydex sheath, which is more practical for my purposes.

If you prefer a steel that's less prone to rust than 1095, Cutco (KA-BAR's owner, believe it or not) make their own version that has a 440C stainless steel blade.
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The ontario version lacks the same quality/feel as a real Ka-Bar.
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Amazon, $70. American knife, sheath made in Mexico.

https://www.amazon.com/KA-BAR-Marine...gateway&sr=8-1
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If you prefer a steel that's less prone to rust than 1095, Cutco (KA-BAR's owner, believe it or not) make their own version that has a 440C stainless steel blade.
But stainless steel is much harder to sharpen than 1095, correct?
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But stainless steel is much harder to sharpen than 1095, correct?
This website discusses carbon vs stainless steel as used in the Randall sighting knife; https://www.chuckhawks.com/randall-1_fighter.html
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If you prefer a steel that's less prone to rust than 1095, Cutco (KA-BAR's owner, believe it or not) make their own version that has a 440C stainless steel blade.
But stainless steel is much harder to sharpen than 1095, correct?
Depends on the steel 440c is not a super hard steel to sharpen. It’s not nearly as tough as 1095 however.

“Super steels” or powdered steels are often harder to sharpen ( and hold an edge longer ) than tool steels such as 1095. And they are often stainless. Some are arguably as tough as 1095.

440c is more likely to chip and break , all things being equal. Of course all things aren't equal so heat treat and blade geometry matter a LOT.

A good knife in 440c is a good knife. A junk knife in Elmax , 3v , etc is a junk knife it just costs a lot more than a junk knife in 440c. A good knife in a better steel can be better than a good knife in 440 c. But it will likely be hard to sharpen.
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My Ka-bar says US Army and was $75 bucks and free shipping from amazon. Super nice knife, came super sharp right out of the box.
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Look at TOPS Knives. Their Desert Nomad. It is 440C steel, full tang and comes with a leather sheath. Much better than anything coming from Ka-bar.
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