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So I am saving up for some vintage mil surp to buy this summer, but I don't know what I should save up for. Budget isn't that great, maybe AT MOST 1,000 USD. I want something with some interesting history, on the budget, and something that I can shoot with, accurately. I already have 2 Mosins, a No.4 Mk.1 Lee-Enfield (really interesting history; made in 1943, refurbed in 1976, sent to Afganistan maybe? Also, it has initials on the stock, with 9 slashes on it. Mother almost fainted when she saw the initials haha), a Spanish Mauser M1916, and a Yugoslavian M59/66 SKS. What should I save for?
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M1 garand from the cmp goes for 800 now delivered to your door.

1000 dollars could buy a good 2-3 rifles or handguns.

Vz24 mauser can be found for under 300.

Beretta 92 handguns are 300 and are pretty nice.

Cz82 for 200 with small chip in the grips and you can get new grips for another 25.

Star BM for under 200 but spare mags are pricey.
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Model Of 1917 (P17) in 30-06 pretty much puts everything to shame
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Vz24 mauser can be found for under 300.
Where? This is my next C&R.
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I bought a garand that turned out to be not so hot. So, long story short I sent it into fulton armory. A small fortune later I have a pretty good lookin' garand.

I haven't had a chance to shoot it yet but I'm thinking this may be a pretty good rifle based on the attention to detail those guys put into rebuilding it.
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If you can find a Swedish M96, at a decent price, get it.

My FAVORITE milsurp to shoot. Easy on the recoil, accurate as all get out.
A bit blah in a world FULL of turn bolt Mausers...but such a good rifle.



Or, you can try to get in under the black rifle bans of the future...

FN49. Mine is a 30-06 from Luxembourg. Think Garand with a box mag, made by FN...

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Where? This is my next C&R.
Found one on armslist for 250 2 months ago in good shape but I did not want to drive an hour each way with a 4 month old baby so I passed on it.

I watch gunbroker curio and relic listings that end within 24 hours and see them go for 320 or less with shipping included about 2-3 times a week.

Thats how I get all my recent surplus guns. My curio relic license received a work out the last 2 years. I bid on about 15 guns a week and win maybe 1 out 30 but always for a good price.
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You can usually get a pretty decent Garand for around a grand. Same goes for M1 Carbines. Both fun shooters.

Ive been on a Carbine binge myself this past year. Lots of fun.

Ive seen a few decent 03's for around that price or a little less. K98's too.

SKS's are still fairly reasonable but have more or less doubled in price in the past 10 years or so, at least when you see them in the shops around here. Nice ones are going for $500-600 here.


GI 1911's are salty anymore, when you even see them. Somewhat decent copies can be had for half or less what they go for.

Lugers and P38's are salty as well. The post war P1's have gone up a good bit as well from when they were coming a few years back, but can still be had for around $500 or so.

Beretta 92's in decent shape go for around $400-450 around here. I picked up a couple of these this past year too.

You can still find some decent deals on old S&W Victory Model revolvers, in both 38 Special and 38S&W - 38/200. I picked up a couple of them as well this year, all going for around $400-450 ea.

The top break Enfield revolvers go for about the same as the Smiths.
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Good buy's are where you find them. You can only drag around so many long guns at one time - got a good pistol. Have a shotgun for catching flying or running dinner - owning camp at night?

Guns make expensive clubs when out of ammo. Reloading equipment could help.
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It is hard to beat a good mauser. As pointed out earlier, you need ammo. It is not as easy find as it once was. Get a good reloader and learn to use it. I like the 38 Arisaka. When is the last time you saw 6.5 arisaka ammo? I bought a lot of 35 remington brass to neck down. Now 35 remington brass is scarce. Have fun and remember that a good surplus rifle is best left as is.
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6.5 x 55 swede mauser is about as fine a mauser as ever made. Mine was made in 1916 and looks new. Shoots better than I can.
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FN49. Mine is a 30-06 from Luxembourg. Think Garand with a box mag, made by FN...

I really like the "transition models" from the manually operated weapons, to BEFORE the stuff made of plastic!

I've got a couple Lux's myself, G43, Hakim, etc...

Ghosts what id do. The more rare items
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I had a 8mm FN49, one of those trades I regret. Miss it. CETME are a lot of fun but since most are Century have a hit or miss reputation. Mine have run well. Love my century vz58s and in general they all have good feedback and reputation.
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Model Of 1917 (P17) in 30-06 pretty much puts everything to shame
If you can find one that is.
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I bought a garand that turned out to be not so hot. So, long story short I sent it into fulton armory. A small fortune later I have a pretty good lookin' garand.
What was happening for a number of years were buyers or small groups of buyers all buying their annual allotments from the CMP. They would then strip the guns of all the top notch parts to put into guns for themselves, rebuild the remaining with the shluck parts, and proceed to sell privately or at local gun shows for top dollar all because the rifle had the CMP certificate with it.

Fulton would have been my last choice to send a rifle to. If it turns out to be a good shooter then you can probably thank Walt Kulik. Clint never impressed me and listening to some of his stories on Commercial Row removed all doubts.
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I'd take my time, scout some gun shows and pawn shops and be very selective in any purchases I make. I once got a Remington .308 for around $700 or so and I still have it. I love that rifle. I did take my time looking for that rifle though. I think I took like 4 months before I finally selected it.
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I really like the "transition models" from the manually operated weapons, to BEFORE the stuff made of plastic!

I've got a couple Lux's myself, G43, Hakim, etc...

Ghosts what id do. The more rare items
Love the Hakim too, Swedes could design a fine gun, but the 8 mm ammo is a bit harder to find. Not that the Lux is easy to find.
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Love the Hakim too, Swedes could design a fine gun, but the 8 mm ammo is a bit harder to find. Not that the Lux is easy to find.
Not for me. When everyone was buying cheap 8mm rifles I spent the money on ammo. I owned 8mms ammo for YEARS before I bought my first 8mm rifle. (I have enough that if I ever have one of my Yugo 53 kits put together I won't need the G1 conversion I have...)

I ended up with TWO lux's.
Bought the one from a buddy before he died, within the last year I was walking around a Gunshow and spotted a FN-49.... Took a closer look and asked the guy about the old rifle on his table.

He said he got "that old thing" at an auction, had it for years and it didn't even merit room in the safe.

I got him down $50 and for $550 it was mine!
(Got a bayonet for $45 a couple months ago)

I was going to say your wood was in better shape, but then I saw the pad...
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I love the FN-49 I was able to get a Venezuelan Navy in 7mm ten years ago at an auction. The guy held it up and said" I don't know what kind this is, will someone give me 50" I got into a bidding war until I got it for $75. The Amish were not interested but the old school bell went for $700, to rich for me.
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Not for me. When everyone was buying cheap 8mm rifles I spent the money on ammo. I owned 8mms ammo for YEARS before I bought my first 8mm rifle. (I have enough that if I ever have one of my Yugo 53 kits put together I won't need the G1 conversion I have...)

I ended up with TWO lux's.
Bought the one from a buddy before he died, within the last year I was walking around a Gunshow and spotted a FN-49.... Took a closer look and asked the guy about the old rifle on his table.

He said he got "that old thing" at an auction, had it for years and it didn't even merit room in the safe.

I got him down $50 and for $550 it was mine!
(Got a bayonet for $45 a couple months ago)

I was going to say your wood was in better shape, but then I saw the pad...
Also, some idiot ground off the ears around the front sight...
But I got it for $400, so there's that.

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I love the FN-49 I was able to get a Venezuelan Navy in 7mm ten years ago at an auction. The guy held it up and said" I don't know what kind this is, will someone give me 50" I got into a bidding war until I got it for $75.
Oh man....STOP! THIEF!!!!!

Well done.
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