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I'm going for my closed carry permit interview on Friday and wondered if anyone had any advice?

I don't carry large amounts of cash, own a business that deals in valuables or have never been threatened. My good cause statement is such: I camp and hike (with friends and family) in very remote area's and if any problem were to arise law enforcement is usually very far away. I would like to protect myself against drug runners (Cannabis growers in mountains), wild animals and any weird characters that seem to hangout in the bush occasionally. I was fired at a few weeks ago while on a hike.

Any info, tips or advice would be greatly appreciated.
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didnt know there were states that required an interview ? wow. to the point. you say you have never been threatened ? where i come from being shot at is a pretty big threat. i would be sure and stress how you were shot at and they were never caught. how you are the caretaker of your family and friends when hiking and camping. do they require any class romm or training there ? i would think taking a course even if not required would help the cause. best of luck and wish you well.
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I never been through one. Good luck. I am sickened that you have to "interview" for a CCW... but just watch that they don't try to twist you answers to make you seem paranoid. In fact, be careful of them trying to tick you off on purpose to see how you handle that type of thing.

Keep us posted. Be prepared for "well crime rates and animal attacks are very rare in the woods. Or, so does that mean you won't be carrying in the city at all?"

Things like that. Remember 2nd A is not a "good cause" to CA.
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Sounds like what you said in your post should be enough, if you asked me (but I think every gun owner should be allowed to carry anytime and anyplace, with ridiculously few exceptions).

But, back on topic, it might help to throw in some personal 'near death' experiences like the one you mentioned, as well as any close encounters with dangerous animals/people. Perhaps you've run into a crazed meth head? Stalked by a mountain lion, etc.?
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I'm going for my closed carry permit interview on Friday and wondered if anyone had any advice?

I don't carry large amounts of cash, own a business that deals in valuables or have never been threatened. My good cause statement is such: I camp and hike (with friends and family) in very remote area's and if any problem were to arise law enforcement is usually very far away. I would like to protect myself against drug runners (Cannabis growers in mountains), wild animals and any weird characters that seem to hangout in the bush occasionally. I was fired at a few weeks ago while on a hike.

Any info, tips or advice would be greatly appreciated.
Remind them that it's unconstitutional to prevent you from bearing arms. So they either allow you to open carry or to carry concealed.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/27/us...n-permits.html
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Tell them as a free man, under the laws of nature and laws of god you have the unalienable right to protect yourself and to utilize tools to do so. Remind them that the US constitution ratified in 1788 protects this right from being infringed upon by the governments of the several states and the general government of the United States.

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Wish I could help, but my state sent my concealed handgun permit in less than two weeks.

Application, DD-214, and fifty dollars was the requirement.
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Remind them that it's unconstitutional to prevent you from bearing arms. So they either allow you to open carry or to carry concealed.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/27/us...n-permits.html
Great story. A Ninth-Circuit decision (a correct one) striking down California's overly-restrictive requirements to obtain CCW permits....
Who'da thunk it??!
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Great story. A Ninth-Circuit decision (a correct one) striking down California's overly-restrictive requirements to obtain CCW permits....
Who'da thunk it??!
There's a long road ahead just yet.
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Tell them as a freeman, under the laws of nature and laws of god you have the unalienable right to protect yourself and to utilize tools to do so. Remind them that the US constitution ratified in 1788 protects this right from being infringed upon by the governments of the several states and the general government of the United States.

As true as that may be, that'll raise plenty of red flags in California, and he'll probably end up in a padded room wearing a jacket with very long sleeves and fancy buckles before the end of the day
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Wish I could help, but my state sent my concealed handgun permit in less than two weeks.

Application, DD-214, and fifty dollars was the requirement.
Two WEEKS?!

I walked into my Sheriff's department and walked out five MINUTES later with a 5-year CCW permit in my wallet.

No interview, no questions.
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Two WEEKS?!

I walked into my Sheriff's department and walked out five MINUTES later with a 5-year CCW permit in my wallet.

No interview, no questions.
Yep, my first one decades ago was from Etowah County, Al. It was the same then for five bucks.

Virginia is required to issue the CHP within 45 days. I thought two weeks was worth bragging about.
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Two WEEKS?!

I walked into my Sheriff's department and walked out five MINUTES later with a 5-year CCW permit in my wallet.

No interview, no questions.
Shut up! Some of us bleed when we read that.
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Unfortunate that you have to interview for such things.

DO NOT quote scripture, Constitution, Patrick Henry, free man, infringement, or anything even remotely similar.

Whoever's conducting the session will not care in the slightest & you'll only create a negative impression.

Consider what THEY'LL be looking for, not what YOU think is right.
They want to see a calm, rational human with a reason for wanting the permit.
Give them what they want.
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I'm going for my closed carry permit interview on Friday and wondered if anyone had any advice?

I don't carry large amounts of cash, own a business that deals in valuables or have never been threatened. My good cause statement is such: I camp and hike (with friends and family) in very remote area's and if any problem were to arise law enforcement is usually very far away. I would like to protect myself against drug runners (Cannabis growers in mountains), wild animals and any weird characters that seem to hangout in the bush occasionally. I was fired at a few weeks ago while on a hike.

Any info, tips or advice would be greatly appreciated.
Little late in the game to be asking for help, isn't it?

As has been discussed (or at least linked) here, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals decided a case, Peruta v. County of San Diego, which interprets the "good cause" requirement. That case is currently being reviewed by the Court and is not yet final.

It is my understanding that currently, the "shall issue" decision is not being carried out in all CA counties... i.e. the "self-defense" as good cause has been put on hold pending finalization of Peruta.

If you have "heightened" good cause (reasons why you would be more likely than the average person to be attacked), you may get issued a CCW regardless of the outcome in Peruta. In my opinion, elevated good cause, as you have described, will get you a permit in many CA counties today.

Also in my opinion, it will work against you if you go into the interview spouting your rights as a free man, or anything along that line. While perfectly true and just, it could irritate certain issuing agencies and possibly ruin your chances. It is unfortunate that this is the way it is, and that is why there is pending legislation. But in the meantime, if you want your license, then you play by their rules in order to get what you seek.

And it is not all bad, mind you. Some of the more rural counties are denying virtually no one. Some if not most interviewers are either current or ex LEO, and I believe that they respect the process and the individual, and give the impression that they want you to get your permit, as long as you are not unbalanced or a felon, etc. As long as you can look 'em in the eye and speak in coherent sentences, your chances are very good.

You have noted some good causes, in my opinion. You could expound upon them, perhaps noting that besides camping and hiking in remote areas, you sometimes travel through them in your vehicle and a vehicle breakdown would put you at risk. I have heard stories that some LEO interviewers actually assist applicants with their good cause statements during the interview process.

I suggest that you look for more detailed info at calguns.net, specifically in the License to Carry Discussion forum located here.

And I wish you well.
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Tell the interviewer that you and those in your Militia Survivalist Prepper group are concerned with the Obama death squads and you swear you're being followed. Then hand him a copy of the Turner Diaries and bid him Sieg Heil while smiting yourself on the chest.

I heard it worked for a guy.
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Fact is you most likely are not going to get approved unless you are ultra wealthy. Self defense is only allowed for the elite and state sponsored law enforcement in California.
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Fact is you most likely are not going to get approved unless you are ultra wealthy. Self defense is only allowed for the elite and state sponsored law enforcement in California.
Now this is a prime example of a troll statement.
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I'm going for my closed carry permit interview on Friday and wondered if anyone had any advice?

I don't carry large amounts of cash, own a business that deals in valuables or have never been threatened. My good cause statement is such: I camp and hike (with friends and family) in very remote area's and if any problem were to arise law enforcement is usually very far away. I would like to protect myself against drug runners (Cannabis growers in mountains), wild animals and any weird characters that seem to hangout in the bush occasionally. I was fired at a few weeks ago while on a hike.

Any info, tips or advice would be greatly appreciated.
What county? That makes a huge difference. Self defense is not a "good cause" for some sheriffs.

Screeno, that's actually the fact of it in many counties in CA. No troll about it.
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Screeno, that's actually the fact of it in many counties in CA. No troll about it.
Ah, but that is not what was stated, is it? It may be that way in some counties, but far (and I do mean far) from it in other counties. So the all-inclusive statement looked like a troll to me.
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