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I feel they are two different animals. The fighting knives or main primary defense knives are those that are designed for hand to hand fighting like the Ka-Bar fighting knives.
http://www.knifecenter.com/kc_new/st...q%3DKA&&&s=121
A good example of a survival knife is the Cold Steel Bushman.
http://www.knifecenter.com/kc_new/st...tml?s=CS95BUSC
As a general rule I like the Ka-Bar Marine 7 inch blade as a combat knife.
Though I favor the the 5 1/4 inch blade as a handier version.
Same with the Bushman I like the mini-bushman. I subo wrap the handle of the Bushman with two 72 inch long leather boot laces though I have one done in paracord to give a better grip. I have seen some examples of wher someone fitted a bicycle handle for a grip.
Personally I have found the Rambo/Whambo survival knives. Worst than useless. They are just to bulky to do fine work and useless for chopping or whacking vines. The best in my opinion and one of the two I keep in my BOB is a Camillas Pilots Survival knife it is 5 inch blade with a substancial tang and pummel actuall a bolt. I also carry a Camillas military folder with a 3 inch folding blade, can and bottle opener and leather punch. Between the two most survival tasks are covered. I also keep a Cold Steel Mini-Bushman in the BOB and my walking stick is formed to serve as a shaft with the mini-Bushman attached so I have a 4 foot thrusting spear. A Frog/fish gig also will fit on the walking staff/shaft.
http://www.sbtoutdoors.com/fish_spears.htm
Very useful devices unless one is in the middle of Arizona dry lands even then a mean anti-canine weapon.
On the fighting knives Bigger is not always better as it is up close and personal and a heavy unweildy THIS HERE IS A KNIFE can be more difficult to thrust and parry with.
http://www.swordsdirect.com/rambo_knives.html
The Sikes/Fairburn set the standard for the fighting knives and there are several that have been improvements like the SOG Bowies. A limiting factor in some ownership of fighting knives is the dagger or two sided edge restrictions than some enlightned states and localities have enacted.
http://www.esa-swords.com/
http://www.survivalinstinct.com/sogbowieknife.html
When getting and putting in the kit understand what you are going to be using it for. You may find a Swiss Army Knife more practical for survival than a Randall. Not that I would not love to own one.
http://www.agrussell.com/knives/hand...ade_knives.htm
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Je me sens qu'ils sont deux animaux différents. Les couteaux de combat ou les couteaux primaires principaux de la défense sont ceux qui sont conçus pour que la main remette le combat comme les couteaux de combat http://www.knifecenter.com/kc_new/st... q%3DKA&&&s=121 A de Ka-Barre que le bon exemple d'un couteau de survie est le débroussailleur en acier froid http://www.knifecenter.com/kc_new/st... tml?s=CS95BUSC en règle générale j'aime la marine de Ka-Barre lame de 7 pouces comme couteau de combat. Bien que je favorise aux 5 la lame de 1/4 pouce comme version plus maniable. Mêmes avec le débroussailleur j'aime le mini-débroussailleur. Enveloppe du subo I que la poignée du débroussailleur avec deux initialisation en cuir long de 72 pouces lace bien que je fasse faire un dans le paracord pour donner une meilleure poignée. J'ai vu que quelques exemples de wher quelqu'un a adapté une poignée de bicyclette pour une poignée. Personnellement j'ai trouvé les couteaux de survie de Rambo/Whambo. Le plus mauvais qu'inutile. Ils sont justes à encombrant pour faire travaillent très bien et inutile pour couper ou battre des vignes. Le meilleur à mon avis et des deux que je maintiens dans mon BOB est un couteau de survie de pilotes de Camillas c'est lame de 5 pouces avec une saveur substancial et frappe l'actuall un boulon. Je porte également une chemise militaire de Camillas avec une lame de 3 pouces, un ouvreur de boîte et de bouteille et un poinçon se pliants de cuir. Entre les deux que la plupart de survie charge sont couverts. Je maintiens également un Mini-Débroussailleur en acier froid dans BOB et mon bâton de marche est formé pour servir un axe avec le mini-Débroussailleur attachait ainsi j'ai des 4 pieds pousser la lance. Une gig de Frog/fish également s'adaptera sur le staff/shaft de marche. dispositifs très utiles de http://www.sbtoutdoors.com/fish_spears.htm à moins qu'on soit au milieu des terres sèches de l'Arizona même puis une arme anti-canine moyenne. Sur les couteaux de combat plus grands n'est pas toujours tout meilleur qu'il est vers le haut d'étroit et de personnel et il EST Un COUTEAU peut être plus difficile pousser un unweildy lourd CECI ICI et parer avec http://www.swordsdirect.com/rambo_knives.html les Sikes/Fairburn réglés la norme pour les couteaux de combat et là sont plusieurs qui ont été des améliorations comme le SOG Bowies. Un facteur limiteur dans une certaine propriété des couteaux de combat est le poignard ou les restrictions recto-verso de bord que certains enlightned des états et les localités ont décrété http://www.esa-swords.com/ http://www.survivalinstinct.com/sogbowieknife.html en obtenant et en mettant dans le kit comprenez pour ce que vous allez l'employer. Vous pouvez trouver un couteau suisse d'armée plus pratique pour la survie qu'un Randall. Pas que je n'aimerais pas à propre un http://www.agrussell.com/knives/hand... ade_knives.htm OH ! druill, druill.
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In general a survival blade is smaller than a fighting one. A matter of personal choice. When I am hiking on foot weight and bulk are important so I choose something maybe with a 4 or 5 inch blade.
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In our little group of friends, we each carry several different knives while in the woods and hiking or camping. First, we have our "tools". Simple or complex multitools to do our work for us. Then, we have our working clip knives. Hid away in the pack we have our working fixed blades and other assorted edged weapons/tools, (Hawks, hatchets, saws...), and then finally we have on our belt our "im the meanest MFer in the valley" knives, (Im hankering after a large bowie with a nice leather sheath). Alot of it is dead weight sometimes, but for us its that "rather have and not need then vice versa". Are most of you guys like this? Or do you have a single knife for all jobs?
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I carry a Croford Kasper utility fixed blade, its only got a 4inch blade but as of yet dose everything I need. I carry a multitool and swiss army knife as well.
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I'm with Kyplinker on this one. I usually have a small fine edged sharp blade for chores and a sharpened crowbar for defense. Sometimes I carry a hatchet and saw too.
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A fighting knife, blimey! Why do you think guns were invented?


A Kukri is a good heavy bush tool and a fearsome weapon as well.
Good enough for the Ghurkas, excellent for you and me!

The machete/panga, whatever you call it, has killed more than its fair share of people (think Rwanda). The weapon of choice for crazed African "freedom fighters" who want to hack the arms off women and children.

I think the point (no pun intended) with these tools/weapons is that they have a considerable reach advantage over a 7inch fighting knife.

An axe would also be pretty handy in that respect as well.

Besides, these bigger tools just look far more menacing and scary than other smaller pointy things.
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this gentlemen is a real fightting knife

yes thats right the lowly oyster knife and I are heading out side right now to fight with some fresh oysters I am steaming.
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MY fighting knife is a No3 pattern fairbairne sykes commando knife, My survival knife is a Finnish puukko.I also have a nice damascus knife, I have quit a few knifes but these are my favourites.

You can see my knives in my Gallery.

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The blade patterns are totally different from survival knives to combat knives.
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a good website for survival i found a while ago also has some interesting homemade/'refurbished' knives and reviews
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sorry the link isnt working but the site is still there
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In a defense situation I firmly believe that having anything sharp and pointy is enough. The crucial part is that you engage your attacker. An actively hostile "victim" is less likely to be attacked at all.

If you know you're going to be in a fight, first I would have a shouldered firearm, but if you wanted to carry a melee weapon I would carry a chopping weapon with as large a surface-area as possible. Slicing weapons don't do enough damage and if no armor is involved historically chopping weapons prevail. I intend on carrying a Kukri or Machete for chopping tasks - I would use that.

The reason fighting knives (just like handguns) are popular is because they are concealable. If you are not worried about concealment there is no use in limiting yourself.
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A fighting knife, blimey! Why do you think guns were invented?


A Kukri is a good heavy bush tool and a fearsome weapon as well.
Good enough for the Ghurkas, excellent for you and me!

The machete/panga, whatever you call it, has killed more than its fair share of people (think Rwanda). The weapon of choice for crazed African "freedom fighters" who want to hack the arms off women and children.

I think the point (no pun intended) with these tools/weapons is that they have a considerable reach advantage over a 7inch fighting knife.

An axe would also be pretty handy in that respect as well.

Besides, these bigger tools just look far more menacing and scary than other smaller pointy things.
In hand to hand combat theres nothing more menacing than an expert with a commando knife,ask the Taliban who went up against the S.A.S in the caves at Tora Bora,Oh sorry you can't there DEAD.
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I concider my multitools to be tools only, I leave the blades sharp for last ditch use.

My folding knife is for everyday stuff like opening boxes and stuff.

I favour 4" blades for hiking knives. I prefer a small blade (3"-4") and large blade (9"+) for wood chopping and rough shelter building, rather than a mid-size 7" blade.
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ok Kev sorry i didnt realise. ill be sure to do it properly next time if at all.
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