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Old 05-05-2012, 11:33 AM
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Neither. Save your money up to purchase a decent weapon. These are "starter" guns for those who cannot afford better. Those that purchase them think they are just fine- until they later buy something else. That something else is usually an average quality weapon - then they realize that the kel-tec and highpoint were crap to begin with. But they will never, ever ever admit it on a forum. That would mean they were wrong to begin with, or made a bad decision.
Huh.

So, since the wifey doesn't like the recoil from a 7.62X39 cartridge, but is perfectly fine with that of a 9mmP, what, exactly should I buy her? A Beretta Storm, that's no more accurate or durable than an ugly 995? Or maybe a Suomi that weighs a ton?

One of my buddies got Hi-Point's first 9mm carbine, 15 years down the road, he still owns it, it still goes bang, and it's still ugly, and he got it on sale for $100.

Doesn't sound like a bad "girl's gun" for my wife.............
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I do not own either but for the price I would not mind buying one of each, except they are never in any of the gun stores I frequent.

As far as concept I like the KT folding capability and Glock magazine capacity since I own quite a few Glocks and mags.
I believe the pistol carbines are very fun as I own a Ruger PC4 and enjoy shooting it at the range.

They should not be compared to AK/AR or other battle rifles IMHO.
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Kel tec. You can get one from cdnn for less than 300 bucks. It takes glock mags 10 rounders to 33 rounders. It is reliable,lightweight,folds up,surprisingly accurate.
My wife has one I just ran 100 rounds through tonight. It functions perfectly with my cast bullet loads also.

Now if your budget is a little higher. My buddy has a 9mm ar that takes sten gun mags. It is wonderful to shoot. But not as compact as the kel-tec.
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For what it's worth (and this is recycled from other forums) the *current* Hi-Point 995TS doesn't seem to have a problem with 15rd aftermarket mags. I have three that I use with all sorts of ammo, and the Hi-Point just chews through everything. The previous generation carbines didn't play nice with the extended mags.
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What store quoted you that price? I am looking for another 9mm to accompany my Beretta Storm.



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wrong gun got pistol
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My vote is none of the above. This AR platform takes Glock 17 mags as well.

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thats not what this thread is about - go read the first post please
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thats not what this thread is about - go read the first post please
I did read the first post. I don't like either option in the OP.
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Hi-Point 995

Because I can buy 3 for the price of a Keltec or take the extra $600+ and buy all the WWB I can shoot.........
kel tecs are only 300$ range but can be had for the same price as a hi point.

im going to go with kel tec for the folding stock and use of my beretta mags.i know they can be used with beretta or glock idk if any others.quality i would say there the same lvl.cant say anything about shootabilty since i havent fired ether.
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I did read the first post. I don't like either option in the OP.

seems like you had nothing to contribute then




....still searching for a kel-tec. didnt think itd be that hard to dig one up
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I am glad I came across this thread, I think a highpoint 9mm will be the next addition to my home. Just started teaching my kids to shoot 22s I think a 9mm carbine would be a nice next step.
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SUB2K's SELLING FOR $950 AT THIS WEEKENDS GUN SHOW!!!!!!!
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Hi-Points are still selling for normal prices, at least at the show I attended on Saturday: $300 for the 995TS and readily available. The Kel-Tecs are overpriced, mainly because the company can't build them fast enough to meet demand, so sellers are taking advantage. Meanwhile, the Kel-Tec SU-16 (5.56, takes AR mags) still shows up locally under $600. It also has a folding stock, although the usual "B" model can't fire when folded.
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I ended up with the 45cal hi point. I can't complain about it. Never jams even using that rot gut tul ammo. I saw there are now higher cap aftermarket mags for the 45, but the reviews did not look promising. And I already have 7 of the regular ones.

I considered the kel tec, but from what I read they are a little flimsy, and won't take the abuse you can dish out to the high point. I liked they could take higher cap mags, but would have had to buy some as I don't own a glock or other mags they can use. The other issue seems to be actually getting one. I have yet to see one in a gun store or at the gun show.

There are times I wish I had gotten the 9mm version, but I can reload some pretty hot HP to feed thru it. And its not even very loud which is nice.
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