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Old 08-21-2010, 11:35 PM
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Anybody built a system and have advice? I am going to install rain gutter down one side of my house, and plan to tap of the down spout and direct into 2 55 gallon plastic barrels (piggy backed with a PVC pipe near top to create an overflow type setup).

Specific questions, how do people add a spigot to the barrel to drain? are people sealing them? Pics would be awesome. If there is a thread, direct me, maybe I missed it.

Some notes about my setup. For space sake I have to go with 55 gallon drums, can't get a big caged setup into the space. I live in AZ so rain isn't often, but when it dumps it is often intense so I can get quite a bit. Adding drain piping to 1side of my house should give me a collection area of 700-900 sq ft.

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Here's what I did. I put four 55 gal. plastic barrels in the rafters of my barn. They are on their sides with the large bung hole on top. I have a plastic trash can outside under the rain gutter. Inside the trash can I have an electric water pump with a float switch attached. Right out of the pump is a PVC check valve to prevent the water already pumped into the pipe to stay there when the pump stops. The pipe is plumbed into the tops of the barrels, with an overflow pipe leading out of the barn for when the barrels fill up and the pump comes on, it just runs out. If you will notice, the plastic barrel plugs have female threads in them to allow you to cut a hole in the plug and screw a pipe into it. The lower plugs on my barrels are plumbed together with one pipe run down the wall with a standard hose bib on it. I get pretty decent water pressure just from the fact the barrels are about ten feet off the ground. I don't have pictures right now but in the morning I will take some and post them for you.
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I wish I had a barn. I wish I had some land too, but that is all in the plan for the future. Looking forward to pictures though.
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Ok, I took some pictures, I hope they show enough.

This shows the trash can with float activated pump. The first bulge in the pipe is a check valve and the one higher up is a coupling to allow me to remove the pump in winter.

This one shows two of the four barrels in the rafters of the barn. It also shows the pipe coming up fron the pump and the overflow going out the other side.

This is the 3/4 pvc pipe that comes down from the barrels with a hose bib attached. This is just inside the door of the barn for convenience.
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Well, also living in AZ. i am right now in the process of doing both sides of my house, and tripiling the amount of storage containers to about 6 of the 55 gal drums. Right now, they will all be used for the raised bed garden I also just got built and then the additional ones soon to follow. Why waste any of your roof collection possibilities. You can always run a gutter from the front to the rear and most likely nobody will even notice it. Also, instead of stacking the barrels , set them side by side, interconnect them with 3/4 pvc pipe. Use a threaded end with a short pipe nipple, drill a hole about 7/8" in the side a few inches of the bottom on the barrels, then connect them with a simple coupling. On one of the end barrels, do the same thing with a 3/4" faucet. You may wish to put a few drops of silicone on the last threads as you tighten the pipe fittings in too keep them from having even the smallest leak.

You can use a painters strainer type cloth to keep most of the larger debri from even getting into the barrels in the first place.
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Rabble, do you have any idea just how much weight you have in each barrel ? Doesn't look like you shored up the rafters much if at all. 55 gal of water , weighs exactly 440 lbs , plus the 25 lbs or so for each barrel. I would suggest that you get some 4" x 6" posts, and use a small beam to go UNDER the rafters and help spread a lot of the weight to the ground. Otherwise, with little or no warning, your barrels could snap the rafters, pulling in the walls and dropping in the roof to the ground. It will not care what is under neath when it does this. Just a thought. Retired Framer
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Watchdog, if you don't have the money for setup like Rabble's, you can run line from near top of any container, horizontally across to start filling the next. Whichever is last in line, run a longer hose in the direction you want any excess to go.
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Rabble, do you have any idea just how much weight you have in each barrel ? Doesn't look like you shored up the rafters much if at all. 55 gal of water , weighs exactly 440 lbs , plus the 25 lbs or so for each barrel. I would suggest that you get some 4" x 6" posts, and use a small beam to go UNDER the rafters and help spread a lot of the weight to the ground. Otherwise, with little or no warning, your barrels could snap the rafters, pulling in the walls and dropping in the roof to the ground. It will not care what is under neath when it does this. Just a thought. Retired Framer
Oh yes, it is very well braced. I wish I could figure out how to post the pictures so they could bee zoomed in on. The barn is a pole barn style with 6x6 posts around the perimeter and down the center. Between two of the central 6x6s, I laid 2x10s upright on top of the rafters and attached each end to the 6x6s. The gap between them is what "nests" the barrels. And just because I over build everything, I also ran 2x6s at an angle from between the 2x10s down to the 6x6s. You could hang a Tank from it.
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I came across this on youtube today and really like it...might try to rig up a similar one if i can get the wife to agree

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To put a spigot in just drill a hole the same size as the starting end of a threaded spigot. Pipe threads are tapered so as the spigot threads turn in they will cut into the plastic barrel and seal themselves. I put silicone around also as added insurance.

You could also put your overflow at the bottom, say conected by a garden hose for flexibility and the barrels will fill up and drain equally. A simple steel nib threaded in would work and then just slide the hose on and fasten with a hose clamp.

This way you could have one barrel out under the downspout and the other hidden out of the way. You could also daisy chain as many together as you want.
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I have two 35 gal and one 15 gal set up to water my garden. To get the water out I just use a length of garden hose, I thread it in the hole in the top of the barrel, put my thumb over the end, pull the hose out half way, take my thumb off and fill my watering can.

Even during a light rain they fill to over flowing quickly.
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We use 3, 2500 gallon poly tanks. The gutters are extended to the top of the tank and the tanks are connected underground so water is pulled from all tanks and keeps the water level equal. This is where I get my tanks.

https://www.nmwatertanks.com/
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I came across this on youtube today and really like it...might try to rig up a similar one if i can get the wife to agree

YouTube- MNT's Rainwater Collection System with Manifold
Depends on how cold it gets at your location. That would freeze and split open in a week here in the winter.
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