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Old 03-25-2020, 10:23 PM
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I confess that I got stuck paying some higher prices this time around.
I've been an AK guy for a long time and have plenty of ammo for what I've got. In good shape for every other caliber I own as well.
A couple months ago I joined the AR club. Kept meaning to stock up but other bills came first. Found myself with just a couple hundred rounds when this all hit so had to pay higher prices to get closer to my "per gun" comfort level. My fault as this is not my first rodeo.
I'll still be able to get where I need to be as I've got some good people looking out for me. Same would be true if S were to really HTF. Friends will make sure I'm covered as I will for them where they are lacking.

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Old 03-25-2020, 11:08 PM
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CTD is under fire AGAIN for price gouging and they are doing NOTHING WRONG!!! YOU ARE!!!!

I am SO sick and tired of hearing people use the term price gouging and not the term supply & demand!!!

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Is it greed? ABSOLUTELY!!! But the greed is on the part of the person that does not have it and now they want what I have. That is the definition of greed not the other way around!!!
At the risk of making you sick and tired, allow me to point out what should be obvious.

It's a free country and no one will deny your right to be a capitalist. Lots of fortunes have been made by capitalists.

That said....when you set yourself up to profit from people's misfortune, even if their misfortune is their own damned fault...you put yourself in a position to draw attention to your activities. You incite resentment. People might send you hateful emails, or phone messages.

This is the exact opposite of the position that most thoughtful survivalists seek to achieve.

The objective of most on this board is that *no one knows what you have*. You cannot be singled out or targeted - now or later - by those who feel they need what you have worse than you do, if they don't know what you have.

And there are plenty of guys out there who, knowing what you have, wouldn't think twice about taking what you have after they've dealt with your protests. Particularly if they felt their need was far more acute than yours.

The entire objective of prepping is that *no one knows what you have*. This is the essence of OPSEC - operational security. Your freedom to operate without interference depends on no one knowing what you have or where its located. OPSEC is like virginity. Once it's lost, you can never regain it.


Now...because you decided to sell ammunition during a crisis, the general public knows you're the guy to come see if they're desperate for ammunition - and are willing to pay your prices. And your profiting from it will draw attention.

What are you going to do if certain people decide they're going to acquire your ammunition and not bother paying your prices? Are you confident that there are none such where you live?

By all means, operate any way you choose. Just realize that you're setting yourself up as the answer guy. You're the exact opposite of "Gray Man" thinking.

You're on the skyline now. They know where you are.
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Your post would be called a COMPLAINT.... Hypocrite Lmao!!!!
I guess you didn't get it. LMAO!!!
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I haven't bought bullets in years ,I have all I want . what i do by is air gun supplies 177 and 22 pellet gun ammo and C02 . I get all the trigger time i want an can shoot any time i want.
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Anyone against price gouging, I'm now offering you 1992 pricing on your shares of any stocks in the Dow or Nasdaq, your gold and silver, and your collectible rifles, and your beachfront property.

I think some folks really need to learn economics, especially those who grouse over socialism.

It's called SUPPLY versus DEMAND.
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What else besides the 30 rnd mag and recent bulk ammo did they raise prices on...during a crisis?

Outside of the practice of charging people for products in stock and not refunding automatically when in fact they are out of stock. Heck, opticsplanet has even done that to me.

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Old 03-26-2020, 06:18 AM
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I hope that nobody is talking to these people who are so ill prepped.
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Old 03-26-2020, 05:11 PM
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CTD is under fire AGAIN for price gouging and they are doing NOTHING WRONG!!! YOU ARE!!!!

I am SO sick and tired of hearing people use the term price gouging and not the term supply & demand!!!

<SNIP>

Is it greed? ABSOLUTELY!!! But the greed is on the part of the person that does not have it and now they want what I have. That is the definition of greed not the other way around!!!
At the risk of making you sick and tired, allow me to point out what should be obvious.

It's a free country and no one will deny your right to be a capitalist. Lots of fortunes have been made by capitalists.

That said....when you set yourself up to profit from people's misfortune, even if their misfortune is their own damned fault...you put yourself in a position to draw attention to your activities. You incite resentment. People might send you hateful emails, or phone messages.

This is the exact opposite of the position that most thoughtful survivalists seek to achieve.

The objective of most on this board is that *no one knows what you have*. You cannot be singled out or targeted - now or later - by those who feel they need what you have worse than you do, if they don't know what you have.

And there are plenty of guys out there who, knowing what you have, wouldn't think twice about taking what you have after they've dealt with your protests. Particularly if they felt their need was far more acute than yours.

The entire objective of prepping is that *no one knows what you have*. This is the essence of OPSEC - operational security. Your freedom to operate without interference depends on no one knowing what you have or where its located. OPSEC is like virginity. Once it's lost, you can never regain it.


Now...because you decided to sell ammunition during a crisis, the general public knows you're the guy to come see if they're desperate for ammunition - and are willing to pay your prices. And your profiting from it will draw attention.

What are you going to do if certain people decide they're going to acquire your ammunition and not bother paying your prices? Are you confident that there are none such where you live?

By all means, operate any way you choose. Just realize that you're setting yourself up as the answer guy. You're the exact opposite of "Gray Man" thinking.

You're on the skyline now. They know where you are.
I have a tendency to call that being overly paranoid. I don’t advertise my name and address on a forum and I doubt seriously that anybody could locate me based upon my screen name and even if they could? So what?

Why would anybody go through all that trouble to trace me just to pick up a few hundred rounds of ammo??? There’s not enough bang for buck is my point!!!

And lastly, I don’t meet people at my home to sell my stuff, I meet at a public place. Yes you may give out the impression that you have a lot of guns and ammo but that’s a two sided sword. That ALSO tells them they would be very stupid to try to come and take from what they KNOW ahead of time is a very well armed person &#x1f642;
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Your post would be called a COMPLAINT.... Hypocrite Lmao!!!!
I guess you didn't get it. LMAO!!!
I did. I guess YOU didn’t get it! LOL it’s a mirror in front of a mirror.
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The people who are running around now, trying to buy ammo for their guns, are the same people who are always driving around on an empty fuel tank. Then they complain about the price of both when and if they manage to find it.
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If you think sheeple are complaining now, just wait.
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When I get charged 3$ at the atm i dont care because it saves me time.



Shouldn`t this be in the firearms section? Or maybe a new section called General Whining
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Sorry, OP, but CTD has a history of price gouging. It's what they do, and will continue to do as long as people panic-buy their stuff at outlandish prices. But it's not just that they raise their prices astronomically. After the Sandy Hook shooting, they canceled customers' existing orders, claiming items were out of stock, and then advertised them back in stock at massively increased prices. That is some BS.
Exactly this, OP! Literally right before SandyHook, I had a 1000 round case of Federal 5.56 on order for $299 shipped. I bought it, they charged me I had the the shipping info. Less than 24 hours later SH news broke. They cancelled the order as 'No Longer Available' and the price for the EXACT same part number went from $299. to $899.

I get what you're saying and I had plenty on hand so it was a minor inconvenience but that single (mis)deed lost them a customer forever and I tell anyone who asks about where to shop this story.
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You people heard of Brownells and MidwayUSA, SGAmmo? Go there.

CTD didn't have the ethics make it in repo business, telemarketing, or African inherited money emails so they went into this online retail business.
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I just listed a bunch in our local paper. Boxes of Wolf .223 and 7.62X39 for $10. 100 rd Federal 9MM boxes for $60. Don't like it? Drop down and get some. If you were to stupid to prepare, you pay the price. It's supply and demand. If silver triples in price, are you a d**k for selling it at a profit?
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I have a decent sized order of 9mm waiting at my FFL transfer shop, besides me my GF and her sister use it. The price was right but gun shops are closed at the moment around me. I could also live with canceling the order if it was hung up on the ordering end.

I live in an area that can have hurricanes and blizzards (got lucky on both counts the past few seasons...) so I tend to have what I need at any time.
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Sorry, OP, but CTD has a history of price gouging. It's what they do, and will continue to do as long as people panic-buy their stuff at outlandish prices. But it's not just that they raise their prices astronomically. After the Sandy Hook shooting, they canceled customers' existing orders, claiming items were out of stock, and then advertised them back in stock at massively increased prices. That is some BS.
This is the practice that turns me off, not so much simply price-gouging. Raising prices when there is less supply and more demand is natural in a free-market based system. Not honoring listed prices at the time of purchase is where I think buyers would have a valid, legally-challenged complaint.

I think most of "us" don't have to worry about purchasing ammo when the market drives prices up due to limited supply and increased demand, but I would be pretty ticked if I purchased something at a listed/sale price and the order was cancelled and the prices increased...that's just a poor business practice we as consumers should attack those vendors with by not supporting their business. Unfortunately, there are those desperate enough with a budget and lack of common sense who will always pay higher prices at a time of crisis.

If I had a family member or close friend I trusted and repeatedly told them to buy ammo while prices were low and they didn't...you bet your a$$ I would sell them ammo at jacked up prices right now. Pocket book pain is the best lesson they'll actually learn from However, "if" I was going to sell ammo to them prior to this crisis at a quoted price, I would honor that if they couldn't pay or pick up until now. It's an ethical aspect of the free-market system that is missing from companies like CDT...buyer beware, or panic-buyer bitch to nobody that cares...

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There's a difference between price gouging and simply raising prices during a supply/demand situation. We don't know what's going on behind the scenes. If a company raises its prices by 5% or 10% it could be that their supplier raised their prices. The company has every right (and perhaps a responsibility) to keep up with the rising cost of living. However, if a company triples their prices during a crisis then they're likely gouging. In either event, they have a right to sell at whatever price they choose. Don't buy from them if you don't like their prices.
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