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I tried 2 Romeo 5's. Returned them both due to a pretty bad flaring issue I'd get when lighting was to my rear while shooting. It was bad enough to distract me from the dot in certain conditions. I ended up getting a Holosun HS510C and I love it.
Red dots flair like that due to astigmatism. That holosun model is supposed to one of the best if you have astigmatism.
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I have a Romeo5 on an AR pistol with a brace 10.5 in barrel. I like it. Keeps a zero. Makes hitting what I want dirt simple. Co-witnesses with iron sights also.
Same setup for me. 300 BO.

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Red dots flair like that due to astigmatism. That holosun model is supposed to one of the best if you have astigmatism.


I have an astigmatism and also get the “flaring” from the reticle but also understand what he’s talking about the rear lighting flare. That is more of a “camera” flare type of thing where the light shines into the ocular lens and reflects off the internal surfaces of the optic. I also had that happen with the Sig Romeo. I believe it’s due to having virtually no rim around the ocular lens and your head being too far back to block then sun from entering. I’m not sure if this is an issue in other red dots but I experienced it on my Sig Romeo. Otherwise I do like it. It won’t win any feature competitions but it’s simple, has good battery life, holds zero, has auto on and off. I co-witness with my iron sites so if It takes a dump I can still get the job done.


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For a range toy it doesn't matter. For something you may bet your life on..... I'd consider Aimpoint Pro an excellent budget SHTF red dot. It's a little heavy, but will likely outlive your rifle barrel. They are truly tough. You can find em on ebay for under $300.

This one still works after a fire that destroyed the rifle it's on. I'd still put back up irons on every rifle JIC.

Picked up a Holosun 503R (left). It's a chinese copy of the ampoint micro (right). Have to say on the surface I like it better than the T2/H2 with the exception that it doesn't have caps. What it does have is a circle dot reticle that is significantly crisper than eotech's in a smaller lighter package. The glass is nice. Only a very slight blue tint. No distortion and almost no parallax at 50yds. The rheostat is smoother with crisper detents than aimpoint. The windage and elevation are stiff, but have crisp detents.

Not saying it's better than an aimpoint. Durability of aimpoint is a known quantity. This holosun has no track record to stand on. They strap a lot of bells and whistles to optics these days. Auto on, auto off, auto brightness, solar, etc. The auto brightness on RMRs is nice, but I see all this stuff as more to break. I picked this model because it has the same simplicity as the aimpoint. If it proves durable, then it's an awesome RDS for the money, but that remains to be seen. At this point I wouldn't bet my life on it.

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Same setup for me. 300 BO.

Trigger lock ?

Yeah I put mine on my blackout as well.
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i have primary arms (holosun), trijicon MROs, aimpoint compm4s, and also have a couple of sig romeo 5s....

near as i can tell the holosuns and sigs hold zero and have pretty good heat resistance (have one on a IWI gallil pistol gas rail)... ive had good luck with them, but that is not to say that they will hold up as well as a trijicon or aimpoint in a heavy use/impact test.

id generally trust my life to the decent budget red dots (like the holosun or sig) since i am not gonna be jumping out of chinooks or aussie rappeling down vertical cliffs with em.
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Trigger lock ?

Yeah I put mine on my blackout as well.
I have a lot of guns out on racks, and I also have grandkids around every so often. So ANY gun that isn't on me or secured in a safe gets a trigger lock.
I usually use the combo models, but I figured with the 300 BO, another level of "hey, this isn't just another AR" would be good..
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So a couple of things:

1. Red dots are the fastest sights for CQB and mid range, on a AR, 200 yards is probably the practical maximum.

2. Red dots with no power are simply an empty glass tube and useless. So for SHFT or the end of the world, EMP, etc. you are going to need batteries and an EMP or solar event could render them useless. (Unless stored properly).

3. An optic with an etched reticle works whether it has a battery or not. Illuminated reticles are not as fast as a 1x (really 0x) red dots, but they are not too much slower.

That being said, I have a Holosun Red Dot on my AR now and it looks a lot like the SIG Romeo, enough to make me wonder if they are actually made by Holosun for SIG?

The model I have has a Chevron instead of the dot and has the "65 MOA Donut of Death", like the Eotechs have, for CQB. I like this better as the chevron point is an infinite point and won't obscure the target like a dot will. The Chevron also gets you from 50 to 300 meters (yards), which is nice on a rifle. The ACSS reticle also has ranging dots from 400 yards up to 600 yards, but you really need a swing away magnifier ($100+) to use these, unless you have excellent vision.



Here's a picture of the ACSS reticle. You can find a ton of YouTube videos detailing this, as well.



The Holosun looks pretty close to the Romeo and they both have the auto-shut-off feature.

[IMG]Holosun Paralow HS503G Red Dot Sight - ACSS CQB Reticle[/IMG]

Holosun Paralow HS503G Red Dot Sight - ACSS CQB Reticle



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Holosun also makes all of the Primary Arms Optics for them. This also includes their 3X and 5X Prism with dots. These are the best of both worlds for some, as they have the etched reticle, that works with dead batteries or you can illuminate them like a red dot.

Solar event =/ EMP.

Solar will affect power lines and potentially everything connected directly.
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So a couple of things:

1. Red dots are the fastest sights for CQB and mid range, on a AR, 200 yards is probably the practical maximum.

2. Red dots with no power are simply an empty glass tube and useless. So for SHFT or the end of the world, EMP, etc. you are going to need batteries and an EMP or solar event could render them useless. (Unless stored properly).

3. An optic with an etched reticle works whether it has a battery or not. Illuminated reticles are not as fast as a 1x (really 0x) red dots, but they are not too much slower.

That being said, I have a Holosun Red Dot on my AR now and it looks a lot like the SIG Romeo, enough to make me wonder if they are actually made by Holosun for SIG?

The model I have has a Chevron instead of the dot and has the "65 MOA Donut of Death", like the Eotechs have, for CQB. I like this better as the chevron point is an infinite point and won't obscure the target like a dot will. The Chevron also gets you from 50 to 300 meters (yards), which is nice on a rifle. The ACSS reticle also has ranging dots from 400 yards up to 600 yards, but you really need a swing away magnifier ($100+) to use these, unless you have excellent vision.



Here's a picture of the ACSS reticle. You can find a ton of YouTube videos detailing this, as well.



The Holosun looks pretty close to the Romeo and they both have the auto-shut-off feature.

[IMG]Holosun Paralow HS503G Red Dot Sight - ACSS CQB Reticle[/IMG]

Holosun Paralow HS503G Red Dot Sight - ACSS CQB Reticle



SIG Romeo

Holosun also makes all of the Primary Arms Optics for them. This also includes their 3X and 5X Prism with dots. These are the best of both worlds for some, as they have the etched reticle, that works with dead batteries or you can illuminate them like a red dot.

Solar event =/ EMP.

Solar will affect power lines and potentially everything connected directly.
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my 5 has been pretty good so far.
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Someone told me me Aimpoint claims their sights would not be affected by EMP, any idea if there is any truth to that? Not really a concern of mine as much as just a general curiosity.
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Old thread but quite relevant.

I bought 6 Sig Romeo5 optics on Black Friday sale for $100 each, came with a battery, and free shipping. They have 'shake awake' tech and something like 5-7 year battery life.

I bought a 10 pack of batteries for $4. That's 40 cents per battery. I've got 2.5 batteries per optic. That alone gives me about 2 decades for each optic of use. Even if I get half that amount, batteries are cheap and easy to source now, and I can put back 10 batteries for each optic for a trivial amount of money (10 batteries per optic is $4, giving me basically a lifetime of use assuming the optic doesn't fail first).

I've not yet shot them, but I've parked them on strategically important arms.

I considered the Holosun, and similar UV powered optics. Their prices were generally 1.5x-4x times the cost of the Sig Romeo5. Several hundred dollars more. I'd rather just spend $4 on a lifetime supply of batteries, per optic, which will last many years per battery. I've got an ammo can full of various batteries, stored in a cool dry place. Not worried about not having certain batteries.

I bought these after having extensively watched reviews for durability, usefulness, clarity, longevity, toughness, etc. and been very impressed.

Fiddling with them the controls are easy to use, the optic has great brightness settings, and I'm fully confident they will aid in fast target acquisition. One thing I also like is that each comes with two different baseplates. One baseplate is flat, and one is elevated with see-thru area if you have low iron sights (like on an FAL or AK). A great extra and I've got both in use depending on the gun.

For $100, it's almost less money and more useful than irons. Backup sights are useful of course but the price of these optics for what you get is extremely impressive.

While I've not yet put any rounds down range with these, I'm very satisfied for the price vs. quality.
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Only thing those rascals need is some form of attached flip up lends caps instead of the rubber "bra" which you can easily lose.
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I have the Romeo 5 on 3 different rifles. (well, on is a "pistol") They have survived and worked well. Even have one on a .44 mag lever gun and it has transformed it into my favorite gun to shoot.

Here is an in-depth review I found on youtube. At just after the 13 minute mark, he even fires a shotgun at it...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fuq_N129SAI
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Make that 4 guns... Good little sight for the money.

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I own a couple too.
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I have a couple of the XDR model Romeo 5's. I like the idea of the AAA battery being easier to source.
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Only thing those rascals need is some form of attached flip up lends caps instead of the rubber "bra" which you can easily lose.
Every flip up lens cover I have ever had has been broken.

I take the bra off, and put it in my pocket. When I am done, I take it out of my pocket and put it on the unit. Easy peasy.
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