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Old 06-11-2019, 05:26 PM
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Has anyone heard about this? any truth to it? thoughts? if this is true, with his talks of more gun control, he really is shaping up to be another reagan and no, its not a compliment
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First I've heard of it. I'll be watching the news for confirmation..
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Looks like many of the major news outlets are covering the same thing. So it likely came out of his mouth. Well I guess their claims would likely be more legit than migrants coming in from Central America, but is that gonna hurt with his base. Kind of a slap to face. No mention of enhancing gun rights, but asylum? Check.
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Washington, Jefferson, Clay, Paine and Franklin didn't ask for asylum. They stayed and fought the British until liberty and the United States was established. It was good enough for them and its good enough for every other human on earth.

ALL refugees should be deported from the U.S. and sent back to fight for their own country and their own freedom.
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That link is just a title with a picture... no story, where's the beef?

Come on OAN, I thought you people reported solid NEWS... oh well.
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That link is just a title with a picture... no story, where's the beef?

Come on OAN, I thought you people reported solid NEWS... oh well.
https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2019...asylumump.html

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.alj...171040409.html




https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile..../idUSKCN1TC262


Some other outlets covering it too.
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Thanks for the links but the New York Times story has been removed?

I'm not sure if I trust anything from Al Jazeera.

But if Trump follows though with this alleged asylum it will not fair well with conservatives.
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Depending on the numbers I'm actually okay with this. Those people, more than anyone else claiming asylum, actually need it. The only other caveat to my supporting this is he closes the border to everyone else until things get sorted out. If that takes 10 years so be it.
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no, those people have no legitimate claim to asylum in the united states.. and if someone wants to take them just for the sake of taking them, let a spanish speaking country do it.. last thing we need is a bunch of new commies demanding free **** after the government distributes them to purple states in hope of swinging areas like ohio, texas, or florida

no caveats, no compromise, these people are 100% responsible for the mess theyre in, they made their bed when they bought into the lies of socialism, they can sleep in it now
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Thanks for the links but the New York Times story has been removed?

I'm not sure if I trust anything from Al Jazeera.

But if Trump follows though with this alleged asylum it will not fair well with conservatives.
Yes it will. They excuse everything he does.
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Depending on the numbers I'm actually okay with this. Those people, more than anyone else claiming asylum, actually need it. The only other caveat to my supporting this is he closes the border to everyone else until things get sorted out. If that takes 10 years so be it.
I donít give a damn what they need. What we need is a secure border. Let Brazil take them. Let Mexico have them.
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Looks like many of the major news outlets are covering the same thing. So it likely came out of his mouth. Well I guess their claims would likely be more legit than migrants coming in from Central America, but is that gonna hurt with his base. Kind of a slap to face. No mention of enhancing gun rights, but asylum? Check.
Theyíre just going to yell at you about youíre a perfectionist whining about how you arenít getting everything you want, and that heís better than Hillary.

There, now you donít have to worry about coming back to the thread. I pretty much covered how thatís going to go.
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I d say yes
Vetting and in limited amounts
The situation there more than qualifies them for status
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Looks like many of the major news outlets are covering the same thing. So it likely came out of his mouth. Well I guess their claims would likely be more legit than migrants coming in from Central America, but is that gonna hurt with his base. Kind of a slap to face. No mention of enhancing gun rights, but asylum? Check.
Why would Trumps base be upset with this? You seem to be alluding to us as being anti-immigrant racists. Nothing could be further from the truth. We love to welcome people who want to better their lives and come in through legal means.
As others have said, Venezuelans currently have a far more legitimate claim to asylum than the hordes of people being coached in Mexico and points south.


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Went to Aruba for a vacation last week and Venesula is only 15 miles away, talking to the locals they said their coast guard intercepted 20 ships in less than a week with "refugees" trying to land on Aruba. They said the refugees said there is no medicine, food etc. The Aruban coast guard turned them away because Aruba is only so big with so many jobs. Imagine a government that has the interests of the citizens in mind...
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Why would Trumps base be upset with this? You seem to be alluding to us as being anti-immigrant racists. Nothing could be further from the truth. We love to welcome people who want to better their lives and come in through legal means.
As others have said, Venezuelans currently have a far more legitimate claim to asylum than the hordes of people being coached in Mexico and points south.


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theyre neither immigrants, nor have legitimate claims to refugee status in the united states, like i said before, let them go to a country that actually speaks their language, or man up and fight for a better government where they are now
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Looks like many of the major news outlets are covering the same thing. So it likely came out of his mouth. Well I guess their claims would likely be more legit than migrants coming in from Central America, but is that gonna hurt with his base. Kind of a slap to face. No mention of enhancing gun rights, but asylum? Check.
Actually, Trump talks about preserving gun rights often. Have you ever watched him at his rallies? At one he even introduced several people who had used firearms for their own and other people's defense.
You, of course will say that's just lip service and not give credence to it the same way you do his offhand comments about Red Flag laws or suppressors. You will says there's been no action. But there has. He got us out of the UN Small Arms Treaty that Obama signed us into. He revoked Obama's order for SSA reporting. He has pledged to veto bills aimed at expanding background checks and other antigun legislation. There have been other smaller things like signing a bill making it easier for states to build or expand shooting ranges. That's become an issue in some areas as Leftists fight such things.

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The left has pushed this illegal situation down our throats so much it makes me not want anyone brought here until we figure things out.
Sucks for the Venezuelan people but it is what it is
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Depending on the numbers I'm actually okay with this. Those people, more than anyone else claiming asylum, actually need it. The only other caveat to my supporting this is he closes the border to everyone else until things get sorted out. If that takes 10 years so be it.
No way. They voted, chose to become socialists. If they want freedom again, they need to fight for it.
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Put it into perspective by comparing the types of people Democrats have welcomed into the country. At least most people are fairly well educated in Venezuela. It was the most prosperous country in South America prior to the Hugo Chavez takeover.

What we don't need is any group of people whose goal is to go on welfare and live the easy life at US taxpayer's expense. That pretty much defines every group the Democrats have welcomed in. And no, that is not a tradition in the USA. Prior to the 1970s, we never welcomed any people who did not want to become good, taxpaying Americans. Most of your ancestors and mine had to show they had a skill (even if it was a laborer) and had to pass two stringent medical exams, one at the port when they boarded the ship, and another at the US port where they got off. If they failed, they were immediately sent back.

I'd like to see Trump welcome the white South Africans who wish to escape their inevitable slaughter, but I know that won't happen because the media and the Democrats will falsely claim that is proof that Trump is a white supremacist.
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