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Old 06-12-2019, 01:13 PM
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Your Judge won't prevent that from happening.
It will just irritate them.
I have substantial experience at "Irritating" bears with stones, and canoe paddles, boat oars, and even whacking them on the nose with the gun barrel. They can be motivated to leave the area, with proper levels of "Irritation"........
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I have substantial experience at "Irritating" bears with stones, and canoe paddles, boat oars, and even whacking them on the nose with the gun barrel. They can be motivated to leave the area, with proper levels of "Irritation"........
So you say...
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So you say...
Well often it was filmed or photographed, by hunting clients, or by other guides. Once filmed by The Detroit Free Press, and another time by two New York State Troopers.

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Well often it was filmed or photographed, by hunting clients, or by other guides. Once filmed by The Detroit Free Press, and another time by two New York State Troopers.

Sorry that you are so fearful, and resent men with gonads.
So you say...
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My cousin bought one years ago, before they really became known. He's a BIG dude, but really doesn't like shooting it. He said it "kicks like a mule."

I think he wishes he hadn't bought it, but doesn't dislike it enough to sell it off.

I was at the gun shop a few weeks ago and considered it. They had the S&W version (maybe?) of it that the guy recommended a little bit over the Taurus.
I got to call BS on this post.... they do not kick like a mule. Unless your cousin is a little girl.
I have owned mine for several years...fired all types of ammo..... no kicking like a mule
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I got to call BS on this post.... they do not kick like a mule. Unless your cousin is a little girl.
I have owned mine for several years...fired all types of ammo..... no kicking like a mule
He's a big dude. Like 6'-3", 350

Those were his words, not mine. I have never shot one, but chatting with the guy at the gun shop, he agreed.

I would think it'd have more recoil than a 9mm or even a 45. But I don't know
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The Taurus Judge, and S&W's Governor are neither fish nor fowl. I consider them to be niche guns, they fall into the unusual yet interesting category alongside mares legs and revolver carbines. Do the work? sure to the extent of being functional, do they serve a purpose? Well that's where it gets a bit murky. Maybe for some, for others not so much. Caveat emptor...
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My brother had one. I stood next to him as he fired. Heck I might have even fired it, I don't frankly recall. I probably would have tried it. Regardless, I don't recall recoil being an issue for him and he's pretty average size/build, nor a topic of conversation, nor do I recall any real recoil issues if I fired it. It left no real impression other than it was very large for a very minimal performance. You get a 5 shot cylinder with a few inaccurate buckshot pellets OR a .45lc (an underperforming handgun round compared to modern options).

My .45lc Ruger is very tame to shoot. I can't see how the Judge would be worse??!!

As for performance/capacity, I'd much rather have something else, probably a hundred better options in designs and calibers.

(I've shot a wide range of handguns and the only guns I've found unpleasant to shoot are the .500 magnum and Keltec .380.)
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My brother had one. I stood next to him as he fired. Heck I might have even fired it, I don't frankly recall. I probably would have tried it. Regardless, I don't recall recoil being an issue for him and he's pretty average size/build, nor a topic of conversation, nor do I recall any real recoil issues if I fired it. It left no real impression other than it was very large for a very minimal performance. You get a 5 shot cylinder with a few inaccurate buckshot pellets OR a .45lc (an underperforming handgun round compared to modern options).

My .45lc Ruger is very tame to shoot. I can't see how the Judge would be worse??!!

As for performance/capacity, I'd much rather have something else, probably a hundred better options in designs and calibers.

(I've shot a wide range of handguns and the only guns I've found unpleasant to shoot are the .500 magnum and Keltec .380.)

The 500 and the Keltec are at opposite ends of the spectrum...besides there are way better 380's than what Keltec is offering. The 500 begs the question why? Other than bragging rights what's the point of having a 500. If form follows function. What is the function of a 500?
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The function of the 500 S&W is to kill big and dangerous things
And just for kicks
What is the function of a super-car when freeways max out at 80 mph?????
Ego
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Fun
It's all good by me
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The only possible way I could see a Judge being uncomfortable to shoot might, might be one of the polymer ones with those new high velocity turkey loads or maybe a higher velocity self defense load.
The .410 is a little baby in the recoil dept and out of the steel framed guns Ive fired none has been even remotely close to being a handful.

I almost bought one a week or so ago, a longer (6?) barreled one a local shop had for $275 simply because I have other .410s but the more I thought about it I decided to pass.
For just a range toy I figured Id be better off putting that money towards an 9mm lower.
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Thought about one for awhile, shot one and it was a hoot. Don't want to carry one though.

I ended up buying a Bond in .410/.45 because of the cool factor and it's built like a Swiss, uh, tank. Still takes the long .410 shells too.
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The 500 and the Keltec are at opposite ends of the spectrum...besides there are way better 380's than what Keltec is offering. The 500 begs the question why? Other than bragging rights what's the point of having a 500. If form follows function. What is the function of a 500?
Yes, I realize this. The 500 is simple painful in any sized handgun. The .380 KT is painful but purely due to the light and small frame weighing only 7 oz. Both feel like you're holding a firecracker in your palm.

I don't own a 500. Having shot it I have no interest.
I own but rarely fire or carry the .380. Very limited role in my collection, for ultra deep "no other option" carry.
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The function of the 500 S&W is to kill big and dangerous things
And just for kicks
What is the function of a super-car when freeways max out at 80 mph?????
Ego
Kicks
Fun
It's all good by me

I get the killing big and dangerous things angle, and I suppose in certain circles the bragging rights would carry some weight. Ego kicks? sure I'm okay with different priorities...


I believe we might have a different interpretation of what constitutes fun. Developing stress fractures in my wrists is best left for those times when it is absolutely necessary...LOL
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I have one. I really like it. Mostly carry it for snakes around here - lots of copperheads and coral snakes. Would want more firepower for the water moccasins and armadillos. I always carry it and a 9mm and 2 flashlights when I have to make the long walk down to the gate at night.

I have an assortment of short .410 shells for it. Use the long .410 shells in the shotgun.

It's too big to carry, but I do keep it on the seat beside me if I'm travelling at night. With self defense loads in it.

I like mine. Glad I bought it.
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A lot of talk here about the kick of this guy. Really not as bad as you'd think. With .45LC or 2-1/2" .410, it kicks less than my polymer frame .40. 3" buckshot kicks just a little more than the .40. It's a heavy steel frame and the grips are very flexible where the gun hits the palm of your hand.

I took my 12 year old son to the range last week and one of the guns we shot was the Judge. My buddy and his 11 year old daughter went with us. At first, she didn't want to try the Judge but eventually tried it. As the 4 of us took turns choosing a gun from the 9 we had brought, she kept picking the Judge every time it was her turn. If an 11 year old girl can do it, you can do it.
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Testing shows the Judge to be pretty much worthless for most purposes:
https://www.theboxotruth.com/the-box...e-box-o-truth/
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Jack bought this pistol for snakes and it looks like a fine tool for that job.
Birdshot, in any gauge, is for little birds.
Buckshot out of a .410 does not penetrate enough to be an effective personal defense load.
The rifled slug was also a disappointment and did not have enough weight or power or penetration to be effective as a defense load.
The .45 Long Colt loads had plenty of penetration and would be the preferred defense load for this pistol.
It’s fun to bust clays with this pistol.
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........ If an 11 year old girl can do it, you can do it.
I'll not bet any of my money on that...seems there are a lot of "Sissy" males on this forum, and I don't mean only young males.....

.....At least there are some ladies here, that are able to open a #10 can of "WOOP'ASS" on anyone that cross's them.......
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I got to call BS on this post.... they do not kick like a mule. Unless your cousin is a little girl.
I have owned mine for several years...fired all types of ammo..... no kicking like a mule
Yep I have both the Judge Pistol and the Circuit Judge they are fun guns to plink around with on the farm and my elderly Uncle took a Big Doe a couple of years ago with the Circuit Judge using 45LC Revolution ammo 1 shot from about 120 steps. Dead Right There.
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My BIL gave me a double barrel FMJ Model D410/45 derringer style pistol made in Ducktown, TN. I honestly don't think I'll ever fire it. I don't keep it loaded as I am afraid I might forget something about the safety or selector switch in a pinch. Familiarity could come with some shooting but it's so small I am not sure I would enjoy practice shooting with it.
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