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Old 06-11-2019, 01:43 AM
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Ok so this thread actually has two parts.

Ann Coulter, who in early 2016 was one of few people to predict that Trump would win, said last November:

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“Every day, more and more immigrants turn 18 and start voting, canceling out all of your votes. It’s about five more years. Trump will be the last Republican president."
What do you think? Is it true?

The other thing is I just watched a 50 minute long video called "CIVIL WAR 2 in America - WHO WOULD WIN? In-Depth Analysis".

I know, I know, another civil war thread. This one is different. I am looking at a really big picture here.

There are basically two camps on this board. One camp believes a civil war will happen any day now, and the other camp believes it will never happen. The second camp is mostly the older of us, those of us who have been doing this for awhile.

Years ago I was in the first camp and thought it could happen any day. Then we suffered through 8 years of Obama and nothing happened and the world didn't end. Also, it seems like there are very few sparks that could ignite such a war. Waco didn't start it, Bundy didn't start it, etc. The only spark I can think of would be a mass gun confiscation.

But something big happened recently that changed our whole country. Trump won the election and the left lost their minds. They increasingly get more and more bold. Calling for silencing views they disagree with, forcing their values on us, looting and burning, attacking us in the media and literally assaulting us in the streets. Their presidential contenders are bat**** crazy, as are the 8-10% of Americans who actively support them and actually think they have good ideas.

And more than one of them have talked about total gun confiscation. Two off the top of my head are Cory Booker and Eric Swalwell. Fortunately, neither of them has a chance of winning. Which leads me to the next big thing that will change our country. The left went totally, violently crazy when Trump won the election. But what is going to happen when...

Trump wins reelection in 2020.

We can't even imagine how the left will react. After four years of "resisting", claiming the election was stolen, that Trump is a law-breaking crook who is an agent of a foreign country. They actually believe that! They've "suffered"" for four long years by that point, and in their simple minds they will refuse the believe that he can win again. When he suddenly DOES win, they will make the last 2.5 years seem very tame in comparison to what they will do in 2021.

And it's almost certain Trump will win. Everyone who follows politics knows it. If the economy was bad there'd be a chance he could lose, but assuming the economy is as good in 2020 as it is now, he will definitely win. That's how it always works out.

Just as inevitable is that a Democrat will become President in 2025. That's also how it always works. If Hillary had won, it would have been unusual. The people who really decide elections are the independents, and they like to switch the Presidential party after 8 years of one or the other. Plus there is the factor that Ann Cooulter brought up.

The question is, after 8 years of Trump driving the left crazy, how radical will that Democrat president be? Will it be an Eric Swalwell or a Cory Booker? What we know for sure is that the left has become increasingly unhinged and will be even more unhinged by that point. And while they don't have a chance of winning in 2020 unless they get a miracle candidate we haven't heard of yet, they will almost certainly win in 2024 no matter WHO they nominate, according to historical trends. If you disagree, show me the last time one party held the presidency for 8 years and then the same party won the presidency again. (FDR and others who served more than 8 years don't count).

And after they win, will they do something to trigger the Very Unlikely Civil War 2.0?

I'm thinking they might. I don't think it will happen for at least 6 years, but I think it may happen at some point after that. I'm saying we may have 6-10 years to get ready for the big one. Seems like a long time, but for those of us who have been at this for awhile, it's a blink of an eye.

Here's that video. It discusses a lot of what we have already discussed, but it adds more to it and presents the info in a way that is easy to understand and makes sense. Recommended watching.
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All through 2016 I said whoever wins the election will be that last elected president of the US. I was expecting the other one to win, but it applies to both. We are a broken people living in a broken world. Collapse and war are inevitable.
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The only demographic growing faster than immigrants is geezers, and before there could be a civil war, the geezers who voted for Trump, which is most of them, would have to be willing to give up their Socialist Security and Medicare, which would have to come from the Federal Govt. which would be controlled by Democrats (or libtards as they are known by those august geniuses who support the premise), since the premise of this argument is that if Dems took over the govt. they will implement policies that are so heinous that no honorable patriotic conservative (or retards as they would be known if they actually believe that there will be a revolution) could suffer their existence.
The last Republican MAGA rally I attended was made up primarily of government workers (who depend on the politicos for their lifestyle) and geezers (who also depend on the politicos for their lifestyle). The gist of the message promulgated by the rally was that although they (especially the geezers) needed cheap labor to mow their grass, clean their houses, harvest their food, etc., they didn't believe that the immigrants who provided that much-sought-after labor should be allowed to enter or maintain residence in the US, and most definitely should not be allowed to vote, although those who DID make it into the US should MOST DEFINITELY have to pay taxes and most importantly pay into Socialist Security.
In short, their arguments were so emotionally and logically vapid that they believed that only a president who employees hundreds of undesirable immigrants could possibly solve the problem of how to prevent employers from employing undesirable immigrants. In short, the entity that destroys the Republican party will not be the Democrat party, it will be the Republican Party, when all those geezers are faced with the choice of either standing up for their principles or standing up for their government checks.
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I agree we are broken. Unfortunately it is both financially and morally. The propaganda of the lune stream media as the mouth piece of the NWO/SWAMP is overwhelming the sheeple. Free everything for everybody that doesn't work doesn't last forever.

Printing money with no backing sooner that later results in collapse.

We have a CONgress, that only seems to care about themselves. It was over the day they could vote themselves a raise.
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I dunno...

Trump winning in 2020 is pretty likely. Having a really bad recession is also pretty likely.

Along the way Big Picture Goals happen - Trump stacks the SCOTUS, 9th Circuit gets repopulated with conservatives. This bodes really well for conservative causes.

for decades......

I'm more inclined to think if Trump somehow engineers a soft recession... Republicans win again in 2025... why? Cause everyone and their sister is expecting a recession...

Do the Republicans pay for a bad recession?... dunno... Dems would have to make the case for how they'd fix what they say is broke... Reps would say this is how capitalism works... then point at the Dems and say "socialism still doesn't work"

I'm inclined to believe the country will not embrace socialism..... at least peacefully.
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I can agree Trump could be the last Republican President. The Republicans have failed time and time again and shown what a bunch of ******* they are. There are a few still trying to do the right thing but most are either spineless or RINO's.
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In short, the entity that destroys the Republican party will not be the Democrat party, it will be the Republican Party, when all those geezers are faced with the choice of either standing up for their principles or standing up for their government checks.
In the race of self-destruction, the Democrat party is winning against the Republicans. They are unrecognizable from 12 years ago, when this country elected Obama. And not in a way that relates to normal Americans. The party's values are more and more out of touch with middle America.

It seems that the Democrat party is speeding us toward oblivion and the Republican party is trying to hold the line with their old, swampy establishment ways.

The Republican party establishment is definitely part of the bigger problem. But everything is not black and white and there is nuance.

You're kinda lumping all Republican voters into one category, which is silly. Just as not all Democrats are insane radicals (as I said in my OP, it's the crazy 10% that seem to control the helm), there is more than one different type of Republican voter. (And I don't know where you live, but I've never personally met anyone who has illegal immigrants mowing their lawn.)

I am a Republican voter, but only because we have a binary choice and I can easily imagine how much worse off we'd be if Hillary had won. Which is why I don't waste my vote on a 3rd party.

But I and MANY others are not happy with the Republican party and that is why Trump won. It was a middle finger to not only Democrats, but to Republicans.

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I agree with Sarco almost 100%. There is the hope that Trump will finally get the tracks cleared and he sends a few million democrat voters back south of the boarder.
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I've said this several times. I think Trump was intentionally put in as a ringer to assure that Hillary won.

Trump was a lifelong Democrat until a few years before running for president. He repeatedly referred to himself as a lifelong Democrat on his regular Fox News appearances until he decided to run.

Trump said that he met with his friend Bill Clinton before making the decision to run.

Trump's own son said his dad didn't expect to win.

The Deep State had the entire plan laid out, but it went off the tracks and Trump won.

That being said, when he did win he stepped up to the plate like a good CEO and has been doing his best to fix just about everything that the Dems and Repubs screwed up over the years.

Any politician with even a small amount of gray matter should realize that the American people are fed up with what the politicians have done to this country. Common sense is long gone and has been replaced with political correctness and identity politics, neither of which make any sense.

If the Dems take over for the long term, it's only a matter of time before the entire country goes the way of Detroit. That's when the people will revolt. The problem is that modern history has shown us that whenever this happens, the leader who steps up to the plate is likely to be an Adolph Hitler, Mao, Joseph Stalin, Fidel Castro, Pol Pot, etc. Revolutions only rarely produce good leaders.
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I believe there is a chance that the Repubs could still carry the White House for at least a term (or possibly two) after Trump.

To do this the Dems need to stay their course in self destruction and alienating their former voting core (blue collar workers) by ignoring them for the LBGTs, muslims, illegals, etc . While the Repubs need to keep the economy growing to provide jobs to those blue collar and minority workers.

Continuing to pushing their former core into the Trump camp could possibly swing the historically blue states that blipped red for Trump to fall more firmly into red status. Maybe even enough of them to offset losing TX to the illegals.

Though I wouldn't be surprised if the left actually starts the shooting once Trump 2.0 happens. As it seems after Hillary's loss, for whatever reasons the left has ditched their long game (that brought them to within a hairs breath of total dominance in America) and is wanting things to happen right now.

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The people who really decide elections are the independents, and they like to switch the Presidential party after 8 years of one or the other.
I appreciate the topic, but there are NO independent voters these days. Either you have conservative values based on the Constitution or you're an ignorant socialist. I don't even parse the difference in voters anymore. We have gone to the extreme of partisanship and polarization; however, I don't even think there is a very vocal extreme right anymore and those who actually support the Constitution and rule of law are considered extreme. There is no democratic party anymore as the platforms have shifted to socialist insanity. That insanity will end up in a ultra-left, socialist president who will drive the country into the dirt...which will open the door to another "Trump" presidency. It's cyclical, but the cycles are going to get more violent, bizarre, and polarized. I just don't see independent voters anymore. Either you're too stupid or civically-ignorant to understand the Constitution, or you're too apathetic and morally deficit to know the threat of socialism. Independent voter = ignorant or low IQ voter with zero understanding of American government/history, the Constitution, or know the difference between representative republic/capitalism vs. socialism/communism,

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Collapse and war are inevitable.
The more our country shifts to the socialist left, the higher the probability. The upcoming election will be interesting, but I fear even if Trump wins, the following election will result in a fanatical left replacement that will stir up a lot of damaging policies, actions, and over-bearing government regulations. If that administration ends up being as corrupt as the HRC campaign was, it will get quite volatile.

The domestic enemy of the American people consists of the MSM, Hollywood, liberal elites (including RINOs and corporate-liberals), and if the democratic party continues it's insane shift to the socialist left, they will join that list.

While the majority of non-(violent)-criminal illegal immigrants coming in from Central and South America are of a moral, Judeo-Christian (mostly Catholic) background, they are also fleeing from socialist countries with dictator-like governments...the same type of politicians they will likely vote for here (err, illegal vote for). Illegal immigrants are like the abused spouse who finally leave an abusive spouse only to find another spouse who is abusive...it's what they know even though they simply can't understand the attraction. The illegal immigrants will have an impact on the balance of our representative republic just like our legal "independent" voters...they simply don't understand how America was established, the purpose of our Constitution, and the importance of a representative republic or a capitalist economic system.

Socialists don't understand a "self-governing" system where individuals adhere to the rule of law, have the liberties and freedoms to live the way they define within the rule of law, and accept the consequences for behaviors and failures of their own decisions. Our system of morality and cultural norms are degrading our system of government and Constitution. Those without that understanding are the ignorant masses who think the Government has all the answers.

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our only hope after Trump is a conservative SCOTUS. With 2-3 SCOTUS poised to retire (or die) in the next 5-years, TRUMP has the opportunity to put in relatively young SCOTUSes.

I think Ben Shapiro might have a good chance down the road but not sure if he could/would run for 2024 or sometimes after that.

Hillary is Chomping at the bits to run in 2024 I'm sure.

Next safeguard is at the State level...but that gets dicey as States lose federal funding if they don't fall in-line with the feds...Between Social Security, Medicare/Medicaid,Welfare benefits, its a perfect recipe to keep even conservatives folks to vote the other way if it means keeping those benefits.

Not all immigrants vote Democrats. If there is a major world event (i.e. World War) that could totally change things (maybe for the better or worse, who knows).
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The Republican Party is busted. It's simply a tribal affiliation without ideological underpinnings anymore. It stands for nothing except getting and maintaining political power. The Democrats aren't much better but their central premise, that government can solve all problems, at least still has some validity. By rights the GOP should collapse like the Whigs and be replaced by something new, or people should switch to the Libertarian Party if they were willing to put their votes where their mouths were. Neither is likely to happen.

As to Civil War, remember, the Right went even crazier when Obama got in than the Left has with Trump. Birthers, repeal of the 22nd Amendment, martial law any second now: The lunatics and fools spewed that spew constantly, many on this board, some of whom are still around and posting, until the passage of time revealed they WERE lunatics and fools. And still are. People don't want a civil war, they want a hard reset that will somehow miraculously solve all the problems they're having, ease their fears, and enable them to say, "they were RIGHT!"

Ain't gonna happen, McGee.
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Trump will be re-elected as long as the economy is good. I see more divisiveness from the younger set,some who feel/think that us old "geezers" never paid into SS,are not owed the money sucked out of their paychecks for 40+ years,while thinking nothing is wrong giving illegals-not "immigrants"-everything for free.
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There will be more Republican Presidents, they will just be even more RINO than they are now. Who was the last Democrat President before they became DINO? Basically Reps have become Dems and Dems have become Commies. The poor (workers) were once the slaves to the wealthy (business owners) now the wealthy (workers) are the slaves to the poor (leeches). The super-rich decide the fine line on how much fleecing the workers will take before revolting and they are doing a fine job I must say.
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But I and MANY others are not happy with the Republican party and that is why Trump won. It was a middle finger to not only Democrats, but to Republicans.

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I remember many saying that Bush would be the last Republican President when obama was elected.
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I remember many saying that Bush would be the last Republican President when obama was elected.
I was POSITIVE Hillary was already elected, then I woke to the news of the Trump victory, actually could not stop myself from laughing for a couple hours, and I rarely laugh at anything. Trump is better than any alternative I have seen but would still much prefer everyone pick a side and settle everything once and for all.
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our only hope after Trump is a conservative SCOTUS. With 2-3 SCOTUS poised to retire (or die) in the next 5-years, TRUMP has the opportunity to put in relatively young SCOTUSes.

I think Ben Shapiro might have a good chance down the road but not sure if he could/would run for 2024 or sometimes after that.
One of the things the crazy Democrats are talking about doing if they win is adding more (leftist) judges to the Supreme Court. I think there would be too much outrage if they tried to, but one never knows for sure. Past presidents have done it. (I think FDR was the last one).

Shapiro is smart as a whip but he doesn't have the charisma needed to win. Trump has a LOT personality. Some good, some bad, but it's a ton.

Shapiro is also very small, and like it or not, size can make a difference in diplomacy. Trump uses his big presence to great effect, staring down at Putin and Kim Jong Un. I'm not saying our president needs to be big, but being able to menacingly stare down at your opponents has a value all it's own. Remember this picture?



As for the next Republican nominee in 2024, I'm pulling for Dan Crenshaw, former Navy SEAL and new TX US House Representative. I think he has everything needed to not only win, but lead. Start paying attention to that guy and you'll see what I mean.



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As to Civil War, remember, the Right went even crazier when Obama got in than the Left has with Trump. Birthers, repeal of the 22nd Amendment, martial law any second now: The lunatics and fools spewed that spew constantly, many on this board, some of whom are still around and posting, until the passage of time revealed they WERE lunatics and fools. And still are. People don't want a civil war, they want a hard reset that will somehow miraculously solve all the problems they're having, ease their fears, and enable them to say, "they were RIGHT!"
The right rallied and formed the Tea Party. At their rallies, they were mostly respectful, rational and cleaned up after themselves.

The left became physically destructive and violent, and on the one year anniversary of Trump's winning, held a nationwide rally to "Scream Helplessly At The Sky". (That was what THEY called it! )

It's hard to believe that you don't know the difference so I can only assume you are spinning it for some reason.

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The Republican Party is busted. It's simply a tribal affiliation without ideological underpinnings anymore. It stands for nothing except getting and maintaining political power. The Democrats aren't much better but their central premise, that government can solve all problems, at least still has some validity. By rights the GOP should collapse like the Whigs and be replaced by something new, or people should switch to the Libertarian Party if they were willing to put their votes where their mouths were. Neither is likely to happen.



As to Civil War, remember, the Right went even crazier when Obama got in than the Left has with Trump. Birthers, repeal of the 22nd Amendment, martial law any second now: The lunatics and fools spewed that spew constantly, many on this board, some of whom are still around and posting, until the passage of time revealed they WERE lunatics and fools. And still are. People don't want a civil war, they want a hard reset that will somehow miraculously solve all the problems they're having, ease their fears, and enable them to say, "they were RIGHT!"



Ain't gonna happen, McGee.
You can't be serious about the Right being crazier after the Obama election. Just compare clips of election night coverage to see where the madness began. I know people who curled on the floor in the fetal position and cried in fear for their friends of color and/or alternate lifestyles. People yelled at the sky. The entire left refused to believe he was fairly elected. Most still believe that.
Y'all wanted to recount votes until that didn't work out too well. Then abolish the Electoral college. Then he was literally a Russian spy. It has never ended to this day as evidenced by the Mueller report and reaction. Now subpeona records on every aspect of he and his family's life going back 10 years...for no legitimate legislative purpose.
Somewhere in your mind you know this to be true.
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