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Hi everyone. As the title says I am helping my mom pick a gun. And I am interested in recommending to her what she can consider to buy. I know there will be plenty that want to down play the suggestions I am considering. So before I do here are a list of things that MUST be taken into consideration before purchase.

1. Age is 64.
2. Neck, back wrist issues
3. Has never fired a gun before. (she and the other family in the house will be trained)
4. Neighborhood is in Baltimore City.
5. Magazine restrictions
6. Process to buy a handgun is expensive and time consuming.
7. There is a price limit to the firearm of between $200 and $300 because the savings will be spent on ammo and range time.


Weapons considered.
1. Ruger 10/22. I own 2 of these.
2. High Point 995TS Carbine.
3. Mossberg 500, pump 410 shotgun.
All of these are dependable, reliable, cheap to shoot, easy to maintain. Ammo is relatively inexpensive. All are perfect for new shooters.

Anything I am missing here? Suggestions for other long guns?
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Give her one of your 10/22's and get her to the range more.

Gives you an excuse to buy yourself something else later. Win/win.
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The mossberg pump .410 is heavy and cycles poorly, especially if you have strength issues.

Would you consider a single-shot break down in .410? Let’s be honest, is Mom going to be in multi-shot gun battles?

Edit: I agree with above for the 10/22

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I don't think I'd try any shotgun, regardless of gauge, for a woman with neck, back, and wrist issues. Just going to be too taxing to shoot effectively/consistently.

If you absolutely won't consider an older S&W .38 revolver loaded with women's self defense rounds then my vote goes for a 9mm carbine. The Hi-Point, Ruger PC, or one of the Kel-tec variants. Get one that runs on Glock mags.
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Ar15 is a great choice. Took my 73 year old mother to the range, 4’10”, 110 pounds, she handled it well
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Take mom to the range with a few "realistic" choices you have, or have access to, and let her decide.

Anymore, for people who are limited in doing things and/or not willing to put in a lot of effort, I wonder if one of the DA 9-10 shot 22 revolvers loaded with "flat point" standard loads, wouldnt be the best choice.
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If she's never shot before, let her learn on something in 22LR. Then let her decide which one she likes & can use. . Having people tell you what gun someone should get over the interwebz is like having them tell you what kind of shoes to get. Just because something works well for one person, doesn't mean it will work well for another.

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I used to live in Columbia, MD, and witnessed how the State reacts to a call from a "concerned citizen" so I would be mindful of "evil black rifle" syndrome, and red flag laws. A traditional (non-tactical) Ruger 10/22 is less likely to invite interest than the HiPoint, and has all the benefits already mentioned!
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I would go with the 410 shotgun either pump or semi -auto in a youth model. JMHO and S/FI!
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If this is going to be for defense in the house, Im thinking a handgun might be the better choice, simply because its going to be the easiet to wield and retain, especially for someone whos not really thinking being on top of this sort of thing is a priority.

Think about the Tuller drill with a knife, and then apply it here, especially against someone with no training other than shooting a few rounds at the range.

Two to three quick steps will get you across most open rooms in under a second or two, and that long guns makes it easier to deflect and a for a handy lever once you get a hold of it.

At least with the handgun, it can be fired from in close, and its a bit harder to get a hold of to be taken away. You could fall over backwards and still be shooting into them as they fall on top of you.

I know handguns are more difficult to shoot with, especially if you arent practiced, but if you let them get that close, I think youre going to have a better chance at prevailing, or get out of it.
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My two cents....

In a pressure situation , being able to work slides, pumps, dealing with potential jams, recoil, easily seeing if a firearm is loaded all points to a revolver no bigger than a 38 special.

I hope your mother becomes proficient and stays safe.
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Pistol wise, I would recommend a simple 38 light-weight model that's single and double action.

If you are only interested in a long gun then may want to check out a 410 or 20 gauge coach double barrel. I don't own one nor have ever shot one but have owned other double barrels. I can't think of anything simpler.
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I think I'd go with a double action revolver in 22 Mag, or possibly a single action with a changeable cylinder for 22LR.
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Or at most, a 38/357 with a 6" barrel with some Cowboy loads for training.

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As much as I like a single action revolver and .22 mag. With a women with wrist issues, I’m not sure that would be the best choice. Having to cycle each round might get a tad hard on a not so great wrist. She just needs to get out and find what she is comfortable with really. I’m just imagining my mom shooting a gun for the first time. I miss you mom!
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I think a SA would be about the worst choice.
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I think a SA would be about the worst choice.
I only brought up the SA because of the changeable cylinders, but still I disagree. My wife is physically disabled and prefers the single action. It's easier for her to use her thumbs to pull the hammer back than it is to pull the trigger on a DA, and when she shoots in DA the bullet goes anywhere but the target. My wife's issue is not her wrists specifically though, but I'm assuming the OP will have his mom at least try whatever she uses before making a purchase.

Or do you mean the slower reloading, or slower to shoot? Yeah I could see that. In this case, everything is a compromise. A single gun, low budget, etc.

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Agree that she should be taken to the range to test fire the guns under consideration.

Loss of hand strength could limit cycling many types of actions or loading magazines. Hard to predict what might cause her problems.

An old pump .22 Remington fieldmaster is a great gun.
or maybe a youth model .22 LR if the size and weight are a problem.

A simple .38 revolver would be on my list to have her try.
I love my little Airweight J frame.
Simple operation.

Baltimore is a pretty scary place. Maybe a M2 Machine gun?
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For self defense I'd go with the 10/22 or a 38 revolver, and I'd let her make the choice after shooting both.

Most people can pull the trigger on a double action revolver, and ther are a multitude of load choices.

A 10/22 loaded with Remington Yellow jackets would be my second choice.
(Although a Ruger Charger might even be easier for her to wield.)

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Or do you mean the slower reloading, or slower to shoot? Yeah I could see that. In this case, everything is a compromise. A single gun, low budget, etc.

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Slower to load, reload, and slower to shoot, and as you noted, can take two hands to operate.

A lot of people dont shoot well in DAO, simply because they never put in the time and little bit of effort needed to learn. Keep in mind too, if it takes two hands to thumb cock a SA, you can use two fingers to pull the trigger in a pinch.

The person who is going to be using/shooting the gun, should still really be the one to make the choice as to what works best for them. Everything will take a little work if youre unfamiliar with it, and that includes learning to shoot a DA gun.

I think what often goes on is, people like to think they are prepared because they simply have the gun. Learning to actually use and shoot it well enough to do so, a lot of times, isnt even in the picture.
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Depending on what is actually meant by weak wrists, you might consider .32 auto or one of the .32 revolvers.

Beretta Tomcat .32 acp with the tip-up barrel is very easy to use and has been a favorite of the wounded, or elderly!

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