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I know some of you are having fun with this but, I will be trashing it shortly. The OP crossed a line that can not be ignored. Nothing in his post is so pressing that he could not wait for the content to be vetted as to the original author. Yes, I will be doing a deep search and if in fact he can show he is the author then I may reinstate it for your amusement or annoyance.
Oh, he won't be around to defend his view for some time. Not for the content but his blatant disrespect for the Mods. See, Kokosmom did not delete his original post, she moved it to the Mod section so we could spend some time looking at it. And despite being told of the reasoning, he had to post again. Not cool. I don't like removing content unless it is necessary but, he brought it on his militant self.
Cheers all and thanks for the heads up on the widespread posting of this. (Which now appears to be harder to find. That is OK, I have my ways. )
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Thank you Shawn! And thank you Kokosmom!! You guys saved me from wandering aimlessly through the internet in vain trying to view all the sleezy lefty sites in an attempt to help find a source for the OPs drivel.
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What are you hoping to achieve with this post? I’m sure you know this forum has an extremely conservative membership and what you’re saying is not going to be received well.
This isn’t a gotcha question, this is a real question.
If you’re just looking to make a declaration I get it, but if you’re trying to spur dialogue, to what end?
Can you squeal like a pig?
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She is.... Why?
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Thank you Shawn! And thank you Kokosmom!! You guys saved me from wandering aimlessly through the internet in vain trying to view all the sleezy lefty sites in an attempt to help find a source for the OPs drivel.

At the end of the day, this is a privately owned site. If a Mod finds fault in a post, it would be up to the poster to show otherwise. He made no attempt to state the prevalence of his post on the internet. Therefore, we have to resort to the rules. The searching is for his benefit. If we are wrong, we will own up to it. Not that the post itself is benevolent or anything. Maybe good DS material.
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Meant for the OP. Obscure movie reference.
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Lol... Gotcha. I was like "WTH does that fit into?" Haha
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I should have quoted the clown , but that wall of text was a waste of bandwidth.
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I bet he's Murby in disguise.
It fits his pattern of long winded diatribes and intentional trolling.
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I don't know the future, but anyone who has read Right Wing websites for any solid amount of time knows there are people who openly wish for violence and chaos,
wow, first off this is putting everyone under the same big top, there are varying degrees of "right wing" political sites - right wing though is relative, in that it is generally a regional identity that differs from locale to locale around the world. It is a fiction --- it is much better to look at specific policies.
Take for instance my own views, I think that some social programs actually benefit the public like universal health care and dental where people pay based upon means. I also think programs that allocate over quota food production to the malnourished. I support public work programs where the unemployed are given the chance to serve in as a type of reserve force of the army corps of engineers, and that public programs should put the unemployed to lower the costs of government and improve capability of the public. I am libertarian though - often viewed as right wing because I believe personal liberties are important and that we are facing an era of hyper legislation and a growth of positive law in an emerging police state - where police and private security are increasingly controlling use of all spaces - leaving no freedom of public equality where liberty actually comes from where everyone is free rather than just the landowners - the reason public land is important.

The right of the right this past electoral cycle though is just where it is at recently though around the world. It is true that the world is shifting to pronationalist protectionism fringing on fascism - although the term neocon is dated, it still may really be that. I read an interesting article about Musolini's great grand son running for electoral office in Italy - and that Italy is leaning toward the right now. https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2...arliament.html

The effect is that there still may be national socialism when you have states that were socialist but due to austerity measures that are sweeping the world (and could eventually hit the US - if the boomer population is bloating the retirement cashout to new capital inputs if they don't die off en masse) China may face the same issue with the effect of their one child policy the difference though is that many old Chinese people's retirement fund is their children not US debt.

That said... a little over broad. Link up the sites you are mentioning to give a better idea of what you are saying.



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and now they seem to have an ally in the White House,
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Trump has always been like WTF when people do it on their own. Fact is though Trump publically follows his base in that a lot of the time he really has his political capital behind the views. You know Trump doesn't fan, he simply doesn't put it out. He has always distanced himself from people who are controversial.

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and a complicit political party fanning flames of racism and authoritarianism.
Although republicans are more likely to be rascists, they also embrace a degree of success in their party with ethnic minotiies too. This is not new, and I dare say the republican party has become more inclusive as time has advanced.

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In addition, I have lost count of all the “Will Civil War Finally Happen?” threads I’ve read, (on this site and others), over the years, and it’s worth noting that I’ve seen the posts go from at least feigning concern, to now just gleefully daydreaming about rampaging and murdering anyone with a liberal point of view, to hoping for EMPs that kill off 90% of the population, you know, for everyone’s well-being and to make things right, so it goes. Every neo-nazi nutcase that shoots up someplace hoping to instigate some kind of “civil” or “race war” always has a manifesto that could be a random musing from some self-professed survivalist complaining about diversity or some perceived threat or their preferred culture slight of the moment.
Yeah there are a lot of nonsense posts. Anyone with half a clue would realize there will never be another civil war in the US, it simply is not possible.


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Anyway, I always listen to people; I take them at their word. And they’re dangerous. I consider myself progressive and see their casual threats as a direct threat to myself and the people that I care about. So much so I’ve monitored them my whole adult life, (and I haven’t qualified for the term “young” in quite some time) and I am now finally taking solid steps in the direction of long term preparedness in case the psychotics among them start to organize and/or go all-in attempting to actually create the post-apocalyptic world they have been stockpiling and obviously pining for, for decades.
Yeah there are some definitely shady and immoral people around these parts, some have openly stated they require medication not to be psychotic killers. None the less lots of very stable and reasonable people around these parts also. Take it as a closer to authentic sampling of the real world unbridled.



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So, if like me, you don’t see someone’s preferred pronouns as a threat or, if like me, you think that Trump has brought the US to the base level of a Central Asian Kleptocracy run by thugs, I have some advice to avoid becoming targeted and the victim of the coming Right Wing violence:
It is the same as it has always been people under various flags are doing things.



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-I suggest owning a MAGA hat and some Right Wing paraphernalia, such as Gadsen Flag stickers confederate flag buttons or patches, anything that references the iii%, or “oath-keepers,”
ouch that is a smack in the face, the oath keepers and 3%ers have always been very respectful and professional in how they have carried themselves.

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something you could carry with you, take out and casually display, should you need to look inconspicuous and pass through an unfriendly crowd of MAGA zombies.
Why would they be a threat to you?

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-Never ever discuss politics in public. We’re there. Do not display any political opinions on your car or clothing (unless you need to use one of the examples above). …Not around any other human being unless you are on your own property and well away from the ears of your neighbors. This includes innocuous statements like “each unto their own,” “live and let live,” “do unto others…etc,” or “I try to mind my own business.” ”doesn’t affect” and/or “bother me…” …Especially when it comes to conversations about the sexual preferences of strangers or whether or not someone is dating or married. These are dead giveaways that you are not interested in or easily offended by someone else’s adult consensual personal life. Instead of engaging or replying, just squint your eyes and shake your head in disgust, you won’t have to be a liar that way; you just won’t be specific who is disgusting you. Some good advice is to just be the silent type when unpleasant talkers are talking in public.
True people need to be prepared for the backlash from stating their views. Believe it or not there was general outrage directed against me when I actually said I endorsed Trump for president and think he will do alright as president (I endorsed Clinton also, but people transfixed on the fact I would say anything positive about someone dragged through the mud in the media, the same was true in these parts in actually saying Maduro is the president of venezeula -- while the mainstream in the US is pushing that Maduro isn't president by sheer force of public opinion in the US. They are taboos. The worms come out of the wood when you start shaking the stick. None the less I am not someone who is silenced by the threat of sanction for expressing views. Its about doing the right thing, even if the self protective view is to walk silently and carry a big stick.

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A general rule to follow is not to wrestle in the mud with the Right Wing/AltRight troll, you'll muddy the waters like they want, and this will not only give the troll enjoyment, but briefly, it gives his beliefs a momentary validation and that will empower him to attack other liberals in the future.

-You have to be vigilant, nothing is innocuous; they’ve made every subject a litmus test. For example, if you put in solar panels or wind turbines on your property, and someone comments on it, you need to be over the top about how if you could you would drill for oil and frack for natural gas too, say you’re a both sides all of the above type,” but the husband/wife wouldn’t allow it for aesthetic reasons, or just complain wildly about mineral rights as if you always had the intention of drilling a mine on your property. I don’t like to lie, so just stay away from talk about pollution, or anything to do with emissions or climate. In fact, avoid all “green” alternatives to fossil fuel-type topics altogether if possible. It cannot be discussed rationally, you can not persuade with facts and logic and history, attempting to do so will expose you as “a liberal.”
It is all BS anyway. They are pigeon holes that are there to prevent reasonable people and moderates from being non polarized and honest.

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-If Climate Change does come up, you should not participate in the conversation. It is a Right Wing trap for which the goal posts never stop moving, you can never be Right Wing enough on this subject, it’s like firearms and hatred of Islam, before too long they will be screaming about hoaxes and will literally burn Styrofoam and ‘roll coal’ to prove their disbelief. It’s best to avoid this subject with anyone who identifies with the Right Wing. By now we all know, persuasion does not work, and we will have to work quietly, and this could be one of those issues that exposes you. Change the subject, talk about the recent weather, and no more.
Whose talking points are you reading from?


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-On the subject of firearms: I should say, I have never felt a need for one for any situation in my life. I have always seen a need for strict regulation while never advocating outright prohibition. I have lived in the largest and some of the smallest cities; even ones with high poverty and crime rates. But I now feel I may one day have to defend myself from some gun-nut that has been stockpiling weapons to kill liberals. I don’t have good advice here. I’m completely non-violent and fear having to defend myself from some middle aged white guy with a semi-automatic rifle who has been dreaming of a collapse of civilization since he didn’t get laid in High School, and now feels empowered and no compunction about slaughtering me and mine because we want to tax millionaires more and have better healthcare coverage. It’s psychotic, and they’re not persuadable at this point, and they are dangerous. This is a soul search for anyone who wants to create a less violent society. I regularly read on every Right Wing site I visit, Right Wingers laughing to each other about how they have the guns and know-how, and it would be “no contest,” and “a bloodbath.” I regularly read and hear statements like that, and have for the last 20 years. But despite it all, I still don’t own a gun, because I don’t want to kill anyone, I just want to live in a progressive society, like Norway, but here, in the US. But apparently there are people that see that desire as an existential threat to something they want and are willing to kill me to prevent it from ever occurring... (I always take y’all at your word.)


-Religion is suddenly even more of a mine field lately, there are new sects forming among “christians” that are becoming hard to social justice and charity, they’re more old testament then new, but they cherry pick from both and see themselves as chosen people in exodus, and it’s hard to follow how they combine the two approaches, and coming from someone who was raised religious but is now secular, I’d just advise memorizing an agreeable verse and crocheting it into something you can throw on the mantle real quick. Treat it like a MAGA hat for your home should the need arise, especially if you are otherwise secular.

-Next is your online life. You can no longer have an active one. You must only passively read, and not comment, even “anonymously.” While, for now, I believe it is still safe to read websites so long as you are using a secure VPN, it soon, however, may become necessary to get offline completely. This is where it gets complicated. Once we reach that stage, paradoxically, you may be required to create a fake Right Wing online identity, and “like” especially over-the-top references to groups that worship fascism, militarized police or veteran cults. This includes the racist groups that patrol the border as vigilantes, and you may want to do this as soon as possible, in order to have a history that makes you look compliant. But in the end, eliminating the internet from your life may be the preferable path.

-Why? Because, again, we’re teetering on the edge of a far Right Wing fascist government, and they will need to silence the voting population in order to shut us up, and this is all about if they decide to pursue that path.

While I appreciate the irony of how some of the advice I give here seems to help them silence us, I give this advice not to further our representation in government, rather merely as a survival tactic acknowledging that the Right Wing has all but taken over and will soon gleefully begin purging progressives from society as they always do, and openly discuss now.
YOLO, we all die, make the most out of life. This is a journey trying to help people find a better place in life, with views that will better let them take a position closer to truth so they don't make decisions that are faulty due to misinformation.

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-Everything moves so fast already, when will we know if things are about to get worse? Well there are direct paths to dystopian authoritarianism, and the quickest way is to take away all power from the competing party. Power, in a democracy is in numbers, so therefore they will either eliminate the right to vote from a segment of the population
Again the law is words, people are still free to choose, but there are penalties for breaking the law. Again the law generally only represents a small minority of what is actually happening. There is tons of unreported crime. The criminal justice system is mostly for people who aren't very smart, are goofs, or people who are activist criminals.

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Another area of change to watch for is an institutionalized caste system for the working class, economic suppression of dissidents, and frankly I don’t know what else to say except we’re almost there. Once it becomes impossible to live a life without debt and it is impossible to gain social mobility, we will slowly lose purchasing power, and capitalism will go to its natural equilibrium of a tiered system with extremely limited or without any vertical mobility. At which point you’ll either be living or serving. And since almost nothing you can own retains value, if you want to ensure a future, I advise land purchases. As the saying goes, they aren’t making any more of it.
It is still better standards than 50 years ago for quality of life.
Again the escape for the wage slaves is to become self sustainable, and engage in cottage industries. Or better become a professional with needed specialist skills.

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Any reforms having to do with direct democracy and or changes to the electoral college will also unleash the Far Right, as they see a fair democratic contest as a sure loss. You see, it is a tenant of Conservativism that they can not compete in a fair debate with Liberalism and Progressivism. They believe that when the two ideologies are taught, people will become "indoctrinated" by "leftist" philosophies and the Conservative believes will simply not catch on, as the beliefs of Conservatives are far too nuanced and complicated to be adequately taught or debated using words, for some reason. Rush Limbaugh often says Conservatives can't explain themselves well enough and its something they must constantly battle.

Lastly overt sudden changes to the world order and political norms are dangers. Any country suddenly annexing land from other states, for any reason, any focus away from globalism, away from alliances and existing long standing treaties, away from international cooperation and any focus back inward towards nationalism will only create the conditions for open war, which would either directly threaten your ability to live, or which could be used as an excuse for martial law, and the implementation of a Right Wing theocratic or white nationalist totalitarian society, a tiered citizenry, and the elimination/disappearance of dissidents. (Border patrol already separates mother from infant, and places Latinos in cages, concentrating them into camps. We’re not as far as you think from this. )

Otherwise, and in the meantime, the name of the game will be incitement and chaos. There will be a real attempt by the fascists currently in power to rile up the Right Wing into a frenzy and then they will sympathize with and eventually martyrize lone-wolf terrorists who attack symbols of liberal and progressive causes and institutions. In addition, I would not be surprised to see “legitimized” gangs and militias start openly parading themselves as the white supremacists did in Charlottesville, before one of them infamously became so riled up from the event as to murder the antifascist protester, Heather Heyer.
I wouldn't be too concerned, there is a danger in extremism gaining traction but western society is far too liberal to allow their own liberties to be infringed. This is why the right will loose support once the extremists start impacting the lives of the supporters. This is when they are voted out. Its just not feasible to see presidential term limits to end. The US is so stratified I don't think you could ever really have a single pole government forever. Basically is the ball is moved by the two parties, they work to move the ball over time, its not about holding the ball at the goal posts.


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I’m not going to give advice on how to form shield-walls, speak of street defensive tactics or how to train your Antifa group to counter tear gas or form an impromptu testudo on command for future protests. Those days are almost over. The fact is, the far Right/AltRight does not play by any set of rules, and will escalate from small rocks and projectiles to firearms and edged weapons within moments of any real organized resistance. Peaceful and defensive protesting tactics have only been effective and useful until now due to a restrained police presence enforcing rules that kept demonstrations from escalating into massive riots, and the intact notion of rule of law applying to everyone, protecting the various liberal marches of the last 2 years or so from being slaughtered wholesale in the streets from ARs and AKs. (Think Las Vegas, bump stocks)
The are fringe minorities. There is too much fixation on the acts of the extremist few. Where we need to look is slightly beyond the masses.

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-Look, none of this is certain. I'm not psychic. But all of this is possible. It has happened to one degree or another over and over again. Better to prepare for the worst and hope for the best. There are other ways violence could break out. I was convinced if Trump lost the Electoral College, in 2016, that he would not accept the results, as he said previous to the election, over and over again. I take people at their word, and should the SDNY implicate Trump in treasonous activities or if the Mueller Report is ever released and contains details of Trump and the Republican Party’s criminal activities leading to impeachment or some kind of constitutional crisis, I could see the Alt-Right mobilizing out of fear of losing their political efficacy. But that is, in the end, criminal activity like all terrorism, and will have to be dealt with as it arises. Currently, the pendulum is swinging in the other direction, far to the Right, and the talk is not of subtle changes or dabbling in wonkish policy reform, but rather of militarizing out domestic border and policies towards immigration and POC, we're antagonizing our long standing allies and the Far Right Wing is hyping reprisals and revenge against prominent liberals and the media, all to end any notion of Progressivism, direct democracy, equality and social justice.
The US has had issues with its criminal justice system. Its not the political system where we need to look for crisis in the US it is a collapse of the criminal justice system, and a change of laws to the more extreme. Three strikes in California was a good example. Political corruption in the justice system is another to keep an eye in. But it is a free society people are allowed to hold their views short of hate crimes.

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I’m not going to post again on this, as I’m completely serious and see these people as a clear and present danger to people of color, secularism, our democracy, and our future as a successful country, and I fear that what we have on our hands is a level of xenophobia that hasn’t been this normalized, organized and empowered in the last 80 years.

As long as elections exist and people are still willing to take to the streets in protest things should remain stable, but if violence erupts, and the chaos agents get what they want, law enforcement could easily become overwhelmed (Assuming law enforcement isn't entirely complicit.) quickly and if you're liberal or not caucasian, you'll need to lay low until things calm down and/or actuary tables do their thing and change the odds.

(This post is all about considering your safety in the near future should Conservatives follow through on their threats, its about laying low and evasion. No need to discuss fighting back or even to log-in and "thank" this post, liberal preppers always have the best OPSEC, no need to change that now.)

(FYI: If you’re not hoping for EMP, or civil war, or daydreaming of killing liberals, then this post isn’t referring to you.)

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Yeah, well protecting the future of freedom is about insuring people are free to express their views whatever pole or non pole they align with.

People can express their views, people can critique those views. There are things like incitement and immorality such as incitement to commit heinous felonies that we must be warry of on this board but otherwise, I think your fear is unfounded. Take some self defence classes get a CCW and carry on with freedom.


I think you are right though we are shifting beyond Neoconservativism into something more akin to new age McCarthyism I think the psychic conscious of NATO states is awakening to the fact of a new superpower axis between China and the US we are at a shift and I think the west is freaking out a bit with the realization of the effects of climate change on western Europe and the US, the sheer emerging dragon power of china and the emergence of a new cold war.

It probably isn't the same old, many points are ringing alarm bells that we are headed to increasingly unstable global politics. This is contrast with an emerging new cold war fought not conventionally but rather massive proxy wars that outdo the death counts of the world wars and hybrid war that we are now totally vunerable to attack with no real concept other than the realization that we will keep forging forward. Its really a race to develop a technological control system for humanity so even if we win we still lose if we loose we really loose. I think this idea of a continuation of the past is over now. This is having a spill over effect to global politics.. the same type of realignment of fascism as a new political force as a wind up to WWII... the problem is we can't fight world wars anymore we all die there is no clear winner possible due to the scale and how good we have gotten at killing and WMD development in the mega states. People still think third world kitty picking wars are how a real war would happen. There is a constant threat of spill over if you have people who are going to agitate and going to see how far they can push it, when the stakes are so high and only going to get higher.

I wouldn't be concerned about being in danger unless you are in a target group. If anything this will just stratify people together leading up to the election. Radicalism and extremism will just forge a counter point of political activism, it is mostly redundant unless it gains a critical mass.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism

While stuff can happen at any time. People are just going to waste peoples time with social issues to try to leverage power, but the real issue is the looming threat of a destruction of the global system leading up to climate stresses on a theatre of nationalism and national interest. Its pretty much a time bomb that is ticking down... so few people really get what a world war that is fought with the weapons that now exist could mean if one side is willing to win.

Yes it is a good point that indeed, we are just entering the cloud cover of the perfect storm that is now upon us.


The big issues is everyone is looking to national leaders instead of global leaders.. that is the paradigm that the world is being held to. The people are transfixed with what is inside the box without looking beyond the box they have been given.

There is lots of time to play down.. but that is partially what prepping is here for.

In a decade or two there will be killer AI's analyzing the entire internet including this site, to feed on the information. That time is coming, but still far far away.

Skynet is coming.

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Other than the fact that the OP is obviously a Far-Left loon, a bigot and probably carrying an RCP card, he might want to take a look at some of the Twitter feeds where the ANTIFA are talking about forming kill squads and terrorist cells, taking out Conservatives, etc. Or maybe he is very familiar with that and just feeding the fire..
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I believe the OP here is completely lost and confused....undoubtedly thought he was typing away on the DNC website.
Although his post is well constructed and professionally presented, my only comment after laboriously wading through this entire pool of regurgitated mental sludge is.....”don’t let the door hit you on the way out”.
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@willoam Ashley...

You are no libertarian. You are a socialist.
If you believe otherwise you are delusional and only lie to yourself.
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To date the left in the form of the Democrats have done more murders than the people from the right. Police have tracked many of the footprints of killers right back to local Democrat party headquarters after a spree killing or mass murder happened in their area.
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The sad truth is there are a lot of people who believe this drivel and it terrifies them, adds to the polarization, and prevents them from rational debates and discussions involving facts and truth. The irony is, people who believe like the OP are looking in the mirror when they go on such a divisive diatribe.

America has issues, no doubt...but it's far from anything the OP has painted and far better than 90% of other countries around this globe.

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@willoam Ashley...

You are no libertarian. You are a socialist.
If you believe otherwise you are delusional and only lie to yourself.
Sorry mate I've taken tons of online testing on this and I identify as a libertarian.

Although I do think some aspects of society need to be available to everyone.

Its about making sure everyone can survive independently in the system by insuring that the things people need to survive cannot be monopolized or restricted.

I think you are confusing libertarianism with anarchocapitalism.

Learn the difference it is you not knowing what libertarian means, not me not being libertarian.

You can have that belief but it isn't supported by facts or online political tests on policy positions.

I am 100% libertarian in my beliefs on personal liberty. My economic are also libertarian but are rounded when it comes to poverty reduction by insuring that the bottom is provided a means to live, and cannot be enslaved. Poverty removal programs insure that society doesn't transition to a slave state. What is the point of libertarianism if only the ultra rich are free and everyone else is enslaved to them? Again you just don't get it and see anything that contradicts the idea that people don't need to care about other people as socialism. Fact is libertarians can care about the world around them too. Its not about your own freedom but everyones liberty and insuring everyone has a system where they have the most amount of personal liberty without infringing on other peoples fundamental human rights.

Those may be liberal beleifs but they aren't socialist beliefs.

I do think though that certain aspects of society are better managed cooperatively like national health and dental insurance programs. Food cooperatives with those using the food including joint dairy and chicken cooperatives as having a cooperative inventive. Social programs need to exist for those who are not successful independently or lack the resources to survive independtly. Those aspects of society do need to be made cooperative to insure that people have a means of living if they cannot do so themselves. This is where companies might form. The problem with depending on companies is that they require capital inputs to access the services. Cooperatives mitigate capital inputs with participatory labour. Again its about providing a means to people that are locked out of the anarcho capitalist economic system.

I am fundamentaly a minarchist who wants to leverage social networking and participatory action to remove the need of the government to be involved in social management, that is opposite to socialist systems that want governmental control of society. Minarchism libertarianism is all about giving the people the power and reducing the amount of government legislation, the amount of public service workers, and empowering people to do the functions that government previously did but that people are able to do themselves. Its about insuring that there are rules and norms that surround fundamental rights but that people are left to make their own choices. For instance while congress can legislate on anything economic they should limit those economic policies to aspects that people cannot manage on their own. By limiting legislation to matters that people cannot personally manage or have effect on it reduces infringement on personal liberties.

You just see something and think it has to be managed and dominated and taxed by the government. I am exactly the opposite the government only needs to insure the ability for programs to exist and making these systems participatory, not mandatory programs. They need allowances to farm, to raise dairy, and chickens. The thing is about removing legisltation, simplying and reducing government, and providing organs of social organization so that people can take care of themselves. Not having the world as a police state based on tax and spend government intermediatry capital handouts.
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