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Just curious of anyone from California knows of any groups or class action lawsuits or anything to fight back against all the insanity California has to offer. Roads are crumbling (not to mention dams), infrastructure needs repair, etc and our legislature is worried about making everything a sanctuary for illegals. The actual citizens of CA should have protections, rights and our voices heard.

If anyone knows of any such groups I'd love to know about them so I can join/support.

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Savecalifornia.com --fighting for parental rights.

grindall61 - YouTube channel out of Los Angeles area discussing important issues, he attends and records council and town hall meetings and has made all kinds of waves and achieved success. The politicians are scared of him.

calwatchdog.com - news and information.
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The only quick cure for California Political Marxism is to move to a free state like Texas! CA is deep in the toilet and isn't coming out any time soon.

However, if you are stuck there the answer is to form your own PAC and visit your worse scumbag politicians AT THEIR HOMES in large groups. Letters, phone calls and E's just won't get their attention like personal visits will.
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Our state govt just fixed everything by making CA a sanctuary state!
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Gov. Brown just proposed his big infrastructure repair bill (roads, bridges etc.) Aside from that I believe one needs to get on board California businessman Tim Draper's proposal of dividing the state into six new states.

http://www.sixcalifornias.com
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OP, I just filled up my gas tank since the new tax went in... just more money down the drain and we all know the roads are gonna keep on sucking, lol. And the gas tax is one of the smaller offenses in this state :-/

I think the only thing we can do here politically is watch how the Venezuelan crisis proceeds - if the people down there realize that socialism is indeed doomed to failure and they climb out of it, maybe we can learn something from it back here. I don't see anything in California changing politically and we're well on our way to defaults and bankruptcies, etc.

Anyhow I'd second the opinion to give to calguns foundation - I donate to them and feel that they do decent work, but that's just 2A stuff. I have no idea how to get our voices out for all the other insanity that is happening in this state.

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The problem is that California is the liberal wings experimental proving ground. Most trends in the United States start in California. If they can start it here, easier to sweep across the nation. The chief solution people have is to move to a free State, but what about when your State is the next in the crosshairs? Is it coincidence that California has the most guns, by State, in the entire US and also the most stringent gun laws? If these extreme laws can take hold here, half the battle is already over. May as well go after the State that will have the biggest impact on the Second Ammendment, right? Where are you going to move when the nonsense comes to Texas? Remember, California used to be the land of Reagan before the flood of illegals I.E. Democrat votes. I give Texas 20 years before they share the same fate. I don’t desire that, but I whole heartedly believe that’s the way it will go by design.
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Just curious of anyone from California knows of any groups or class action lawsuits or anything to fight back against all the insanity California has to offer. Roads are crumbling (not to mention dams), infrastructure needs repair, etc and our legislature is worried about making everything a sanctuary for illegals. The actual citizens of CA should have protections, rights and our voices heard.

If anyone knows of any such groups I'd love to know about them so I can join/support.

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No, no that can't be. California is the one of the most progressive high taxed states. They know every thing about how everyone should do everything.

You are falling apart because the state is net stupid.

Only idiots would believe you deserve to pay less federal taxes because you pay too much state and local taxes. Collectively you must be over the top stupid to think such a way.
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We need this 51st state movement to get serious, I am wary of Corporate cronies dividing up the State into six portions (as per their agenda no doubt). The "State of Jefferson" idea needs an upgrade - the name needs to be changed, the flag needs a design change and more youth need to be recruited into the movement.
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We need this 51st state movement to get serious, I am wary of Corporate cronies dividing up the State into six portions (as per their agenda no doubt). The "State of Jefferson" idea needs an upgrade - the name needs to be changed, the flag needs a design change and more youth need to be recruited into the movement.
Hell no we do not rather than those idiots having 2 Senators you want them to have 12. What we need to do is make all the New England states one state. They are a bigger problem than California.
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...grindall61 - YouTube channel...he attends and records council and town hall meetings and has made all kinds of waves and achieved success. ..
Yep, more of what He (..and his Wife (?) Tessy, iirc..) have done.. Boots on the ground, and just letting the 'nefarious plans' come to light, straight from the horses ***es, I mean mouths.. Because, really - IMHO - and, I know - I sound like a broken record, here - but.. It's really 'much bigger' than just what's 'happening to CA'..

..Yes, CA *is* definitely one of the Main 'petri dishes' for much of the rest of the Country, policy-wise, and much else.. But, when you back up, and take a more 'macro-view' of it all, it really Does all 'tie back' / thread-into the 'Agendas' (21, 2030 and 2050, et al..) because those Agenda's plans (..ie: 'Code Enforcing' people off Their land / into the UN / NWO-preached 'sustainable techno-terrariums'..) are a LOT more difficult to implement, with that pesky ol' 2nd in the way.. I don't think they want gun "Control" - I opin they want gun *elimination* (asaP..) and For the above purpose..

..If they - REALLY - cared about People, they WOULD See the Reality that - UNLESS and UNTIL, there are ZERO, and I mean ZERO guns - Globally - not a single One.. Not in Military, Not for LEOs - ZERO, Globally - (which, of course, Humans will Never achieve..) this whole idea of "gun control" will NEVER work, no matter How stringently applied, because a) it's obviously not Guns, themselves that are at 'Fault', and b) Nor the 'proliferation' of them.. It's People. Criminals and whackos wil just 'use something else'. (trucks, bombs, acid, knives.. then what - bamboo-skewers, popsicle sticks?.. Are they gonna 'ban Everything'?? TOTAL control is, and always Will be, Impossible..)

..So, if they Really Cared about people, they would FOCUS Legislation on THAT - Better programs for mental-health Underlying-causes, Better Enforcement of Existing (..and Previously-existing..) laws on Immigration 'filtration' (..We filter our Water, we filter our Air.. heck, people filter Cigarettes (THAT's an oxymoron..) but ****-all if anyone suggests 'filtering' immigrants - from Wherever - not just our neighbors to the S, etc.. It's absurd, really..) Etc, etc - Programs to HELP people, NOT control / subjugate them More (..ain't gonna work, ie: 1776..)

..*GUARANTEE YOU* that IF 'HRC' had, indeed Won the Office of President? Pfff, she'd have wasted NO time in trying to 'outdo' Angela Merkel for 'importing Republicide' ASAP... They (Her, all the Dems, and ALL the other Globalists..) WANT these Agendas, because they see Themselves as having 'seats at the Ruling table', once the more 'nefarious plans' (Eugenics / increasingly horrible False flags... maybe even kicking-off WWIII..) are Executed, and many, many, Many Millions are dead, like they clearly want. (they ALL say it: 'Overpopulation: #1 problem'.. and All the other 'global issues' they raise, are 'symptoms' of that main problem ("climate change" / pandemics / food shortages, etc.. It's ALL right there - In Print - in thier little 'Agendas..) So, their 'solution'? Kill-off 90% of Humanity (one way or another..) and then the - rest - will be, Ta-da! 'Sustainable', yay! World Peace at last! >_<

..Anyway, sorry to derail the OP.. But, that's all just a preface to say: I think any 'solution to help CA' - MUST START WITH AWARENESS and 'Moar Awakenings'.. More people NEED to 'back up' and See the macro-view / these 'Agendas', for what they - really - are.. and 'grindall', there, is doing a Great job, methinks.. LOTS of those vids are - Empirical evidence - right out of the Mouths of the local Politi-puppets in those City council meets..

..'Hiding in plain sight'.. Just like 9/11, and All the other nefarious **** they've pulled on us.. We are now living in 'The United States of While We Were Sleeping'..

..Further 'marco-view' Food for thought / Vid-Refs (...from my Other ungodly-long post sorry.. https://www.survivalistboards.com/sho...&postcount=165

..I Do have a - specific - idea of how to 'broadbandly raise awareness'.. Inexpensive to implement, and - best / Most-important of all: 'People Powered' Will post, when ready to launch..

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...Roads are crumbling (not to mention dams), infrastructure needs repair, etc ...
Oh, don't worry! The UN 'has an app for that' (AG2030, yaay! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H0YpdwFiro (..and this was - from 2015!!!)

..but see what I mean about the 'bigger picture' / hiding in plain sight?? All fits in with thier - stated - Agendas..

..Aaaand, yup, you guessed it.. It's already (almost..) Here.. <smh>

...your chance to 'Voice your Opinion': https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdNTpAxU_54 -THAT!!!

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Hell no we do not rather than those idiots having 2 Senators you want them to have 12.
This is actually a very good point. The US as a free country might never survive 10 additional Marxist votes.

Twenty years ago there was a movement to split California into North California and South California. That could be a reasonable compromise, but it fizzled. The issue at that time was that almost all the problems existed in the southern half of the state. Today it appears that all the major cities are plagued with the high cost of pandering to illegals.
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I lived there for 55 years. There is no hope outside of courts upholding the Constitution.
Left there 3 years ago and will never miss it. State sold out to government employees' unions and overrun by illegals and their spawn. You all will run out of other peoples' money. I moved to a place of maximum freedom. Best decision I ever made aside from the obvious, wife, children, etc. Give it up, all is lost. You have no hope.
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For those of use outside of CA, our only option is to hold up the wall and keep them back.

If given a choice, we should not spend money with CA businesses. We must starve the beast.
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I lived there for 55 years. There is no hope outside of courts upholding the Constitution.
Left there 3 years ago and will never miss it. State sold out to government employees' unions and overrun by illegals and their spawn. You all will run out of other peoples' money. I moved to a place of maximum freedom. Best decision I ever made aside from the obvious, wife, children, etc. Give it up, all is lost. You have no hope.
I see a lot of Californians complain about this on other forums (You're abandoning the Good fight here in CA, the rest of the country is doomed to blue as time goes on, etc...), but I think you are correct by leaving. The greater the number of people in California who leave and take their pensions, retirements and other assets out of the state - the sooner this state goes bankrupt and is forced to address some real deep rooted issues.

Congrats on getting out of here, btw. I'm in my mid-30s and probly stuck here in the near future, but am making plans on leaving the state.

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I see a lot of Californians complain about this on other forums (You're abandoning the Good fight here in CA, the rest of the country is doomed to blue as time goes on, etc...), but I think you are correct by leaving. The greater the number of people in California who leave and take their pensions, retirements and other assets out of the state - the sooner this state goes bankrupt and is forced to address some real deep rooted issues.

Congrats on getting out of here, btw. I'm in my mid-30s and probly stuck here in the near future, but am making plans on leaving the state.

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The problem with that is the Liberals are leaving too.

I just heard a piece on the radio the other day about people moving from CA to NV. In it they interviewed a girl who said she was a staunch Liberal and even worked on Hillary's campaign. The entire interview she raved about home prices in NV and complained about CA (houses too expensive, crowded, taxes too high). I literally yelled at the radio "those are only problems because of failed Liberal policies ".

She was clueless her party is the one that ruined CA. She (and many others) take their liberal views and move to other states and end up ruining those states too.

That's why I think people should stay and fight.

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The problem with that is the Liberals are leaving too.
That's true. A few years ago Arizona got hit with a mass migration from California. Most of the Californicators moved to Tucson. Today Tucson is a solid blue area.

All of the worst ideas from California came with them.

Tucson is a sanctuary city.

When you drive down the main streets, it looks like Los Angeles.

Regulations in Tucson are insane. No one is allowed to grow any fruit or tree on their property that is not a native Arizona plant. That means you cannot grow an apple or grapefruit tree in your own back yard. I suspect they think it would offend Mother Nature.

So if you are thinking about moving out of California and want to escape the insanity, don't move to Tucson.
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