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The biggest thing is that everyone show up! That's the first and biggest hurdle. .
Yep, non standard equipment can be dealt with much easier than no one showing up for the party
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I would add that certain things will be VERY common amongst "theoretical" minutemen...

5.56/.223

7.62x39

9mm and .45

AR and AK mags


...anything beyond that thins out pretty quick.
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A set of Under Armour cold weather long johns would be a good idea. They can fold into nothing and really help you out in the cold.
They don't even have to be an expensive name brand like UnderArmour brand type stuff. Most polypro or other moisture wicking fabrics are good, but ditch the cotton long johns.
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All I'm sayin' is, I've put together a dedicated FLC rig for each of my SKS, AK, Mini, and AR that I've acquired over time. Ready to grab and go or pass out as the case may require. I ain't got time to be swappin' stuff around! Or to be loading mags either.
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FOLLOWING TRADITIONS OF THE PAST...
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Lot's of good stuff to think about in this thread.
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I can arm two fire teams easily ( Web Gear & accoutrements also)
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All I'm sayin' is, I've put together a dedicated FLC rig for each of my SKS, AK, Mini, and AR that I've acquired over time. Ready to grab and go or pass out as the case may require. I ain't got time to be swappin' stuff around! Or to be loading mags either.
I do the same, 3 ar15 rifles, 3 sling bags with magazines, a knife, an AR15 multitool, a lighter, a flashlight and a few first aid supplies. Deciding which one to grab will take the longest.
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I would add that certain things will be VERY common amongst "theoretical" minutemen...

5.56/.223

7.62x39

9mm and .45

AR and AK mags


...anything beyond that thins out pretty quick.
To me this is the number one detail of any fighting force.

Commonality of caliber.

Anything that shoots 5.56, from single shot to belt fed can cause damage but without the ammo it's just a club.

I know people that feel safe now with a pistol and a 50 round box of ammo.
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To me this is the number one detail of any fighting force.

Commonality of caliber.

Anything that shoots 5.56, from single shot to belt fed can cause damage but without the ammo it's just a club.

I know people that feel safe now with a pistol and a 50 round box of ammo.
I hear people say they are fine with the Louisville slugger by their bed. I guess at least you won't be out of ammo for it.
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They don't even have to be an expensive name brand like UnderArmour brand type stuff. Most polypro or other moisture wicking fabrics are good, but ditch the cotton long johns.
I'll take the newer issued fleece over the old polypro any day, cant tell you how many times polypro DID NOT keep me warm
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I'll take the newer issued fleece over the old polypro any day, cant tell you how many times polypro DID NOT keep me warm
Waffle shirt might be the best piece of clothing ever invented. Ever. Because a woobie isn't clothing even though you can wear it.
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Waffle shirt might be the best piece of clothing ever invented. Ever. Because a woobie isn't clothing even though you can wear it.
The level 7 primaloft jacket is pretty awesome too!!!. Not quite as compress able as civilian down or synthetic stuff but its pretty damn good considering its Issued
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I'll take the newer issued fleece over the old polypro any day, cant tell you how many times polypro DID NOT keep me warm
Newer polypro is better than the old polypro too. I liked the wool sweaters that we could get at clothing sales like this one. https://www.amazon.com/US-Military-S...=1&*entries*=0

I used to wear that under the BDU top instead of the field jacket liner a lot of other guys used and I thought it was a lot warmer.

Wool, especially good wool is great, but for a base layer I would not want wool. If you are in a climate that doesn't get that cold you might get by without layering, but up here, you need to use layers for extended stays outside during fall/winter/spring months. Also good wool garments tend to be a lot more expensive than most synthetics.
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I would add that certain things will be VERY common amongst "theoretical" minutemen...

5.56/.223

7.62x39

9mm and .45

AR and AK mags


...anything beyond that thins out pretty quick.
I may be wrong, but 308 might be fairly common. It is with me.
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Speaking of RIFLE SLINGS!

I bet a lot of folks have an AR15 but don't have a sling for it. Should be added to the standard gear list. Plus a standard (not CCW) holster for whatever sidearm. It's the little things we don't think about, but which can make a difference. Those of us who have never walked around outside for awhile carrying a rifle in hand just don't realize what a PITA it is. Personally, I have recently been solving that deficiency in my own AR equipment. Hunting rifles are GTG, obviously.

Commonality of calibers. That's a tricky one. Around where I live, people might have a bolt action 30-06 rather than an AR in 556. Which I think will be fine as long as they have ammo for it. The stores which sell ammo might be more likely to have 30-30 or 30-06. There is not even a LGS in the whole county where I live, but there is a hardware store that sells a little bit of hunting ammo. Point is, while I agree that optimally it would be best to standardize a caliber, that may not survive a real-life test. Just like the test did not survive during the time of the Minute Men.

If the chips were down, I'd be happy to take in a guy with a scoped Winchester 30-06 slung over his back and a S&W .44 revolver on his side, and I wouldn't refuse him because his gear didn't meet the criteria. The guy is probably comfortable with his gear and that, to me, is more important than commonality of calibers. And THAT is what we will deal with if the time comes. Ordinary Joes, thrown together with whatever they have. We can't expect to be thrown into a situation where everyone is armed with AR15s. Maybe we should even stock extra 30-06 just in case (or whatever the local ammo choice is), or at least the reloading supplies to make them...

I never got a chest rig, as I always felt it was too mall-ninja-like. I'm rethinking this now, in light of current events.
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Speaking of RIFLE SLINGS!

I bet a lot of folks have an AR15 but don't have a sling for it. Should be added to the standard gear list. Plus a standard (not CCW) holster for whatever sidearm. It's the little things we don't think about, but which can make a difference. Those of us who have never walked around outside for awhile carrying a rifle in hand just don't realize what a PITA it is. Personally, I have recently been solving that deficiency in my own AR equipment. Hunting rifles are GTG, obviously.

Commonality of calibers. That's a tricky one. Around where I live, people might have a bolt action 30-06 rather than an AR in 556. Which I think will be fine as long as they have ammo for it. The stores which sell ammo might be more likely to have 30-30 or 30-06. There is not even a LGS in the whole county where I live, but there is a hardware store that sells a little bit of hunting ammo. Point is, while I agree that optimally it would be best to standardize a caliber, that may not survive a real-life test. Just like the test did not survive during the time of the Minute Men.

If the chips were down, I'd be happy to take in a guy with a scoped Winchester 30-06 slung over his back and a S&W .44 revolver on his side, and I wouldn't refuse him because his gear didn't meet the criteria. The guy is probably comfortable with his gear and that, to me, is more important than commonality of calibers. And THAT is what we will deal with if the time comes. Ordinary Joes, thrown together with whatever they have. We can't expect to be thrown into a situation where everyone is armed with AR15s. Maybe we should even stock extra 30-06 just in case (or whatever the local ammo choice is), or at least the reloading supplies to make them...

I never got a chest rig, as I always felt it was too mall-ninja-like. I'm rethinking this now, in light of current events.
I have ammo in stuff that I don't own, and some I've never owned just because I either know people who do, or it is so common that not having a box or two of it laying around is just silly. I also have a bunch of dies for stuff I never owned, some not that common cause about 20 years ago a sporting goods store was going out of business and they kept lowering prices to get rid of all their inventory. The dies got down to like 75 or 80% off. Most of the common calibers were gone but at about $5 a set, I had to get a bunch of the ones they had left.
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I have ammo in stuff that I don't own, and some I've never owned just because I either know people who do, or it is so common that not having a box or two of it laying around is just silly. I also have a bunch of dies for stuff I never owned, some not that common cause about 20 years ago a sporting goods store was going out of business and they kept lowering prices to get rid of all their inventory. The dies got down to like 75 or 80% off. Most of the common calibers were gone but at about $5 a set, I had to get a bunch of the ones they had left.
[Off topic but yes, I'd jump on a deal like that too. For some reason I have about a hundred 38 Special wadcutter bullets that I vaguely remember casting, but I must have, and that means I must have had the mold! LOL I don't own a 38, I sold my 357 years before that if I recall, and if I still have the mold I can't find it. Why do I have these bullets? I also have a 45-70 die set and almost 500 plated bullets that I can't seem to part with, and I don't have a rifle in that caliber either. But all this might come in handy some day! ]
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