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To me the poor mans busse and one of my favorites at any price is the entire ESEE line. The heat treat kicks but
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To me the poor mans busse and one of my favorites at any price is the entire ESEE line. The heat treat kicks but
I love my Junglas, but its not even close. 1095 is tough, but not INFI tough unless left on the soft side of HT.
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I love my Junglas, but its not even close. 1095 is tough, but not INFI tough unless left on the soft side of HT.

True, it is no where near as tough as INFI. But Both ESEE and TOPs do a good job with it. If you are trying to stay under $200 it is hard to beat them. I do like Cold Steel's San Mai stuff as well.
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True, it is no where near as tough as INFI. But Both ESEE and TOPs do a good job with it. If you are trying to stay under $200 it is hard to beat them. I do like Cold Steel's San Mai stuff as well.
Schrade 1095 is VERY tough. I have their Frontier knife and I've used it as a chisel, the knife can take a beating. Problem is when people want 59-60 hardness, you start getting more into the brittle side for a hard use knife. Folks dont realize that low 50s HRC is perfectly fine and can take much more of a beating.
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Schrade 1095 is VERY tough. I have their Frontier knife and I've used it as a chisel, the knife can take a beating. Problem is when people want 59-60 hardness, you start getting more into the brittle side for a hard use knife. Folks dont realize that low 50s HRC is perfectly fine and can take much more of a beating.
Schrade does make some good stuff. I agree on the hardness issue.
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Schrade does make some good stuff. I agree on the hardness issue.
I think marketing got in the way here. At some point everyone was supposed to make 59-60HRC knives. Even better, 60-62HRC! Now that's some fancy premium steel (being ironic)
One of the most useful knives I ever used was an old knife my granfather brought from Spain. Made in Toledo, carbon steel. That knive took a wicked edge and sharpened easily. I would be surprised if that knife was much harder than 52 HRC or so.
Something similar is happening with full flat grind. Everything now seems to be FFG. I get it for a chef knife, but a utilty folding knife, let alone a tactical folder, also being FFG?? That makes no sense. But people now believe that FFG means sharp, so you have FFG 62HRC "tactical" folders.
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I think marketing got in the way here. At some point everyone was supposed to make 59-60HRC knives. Even better, 60-62HRC! Now that's some fancy premium steel (being ironic)
One of the most useful knives I ever used was an old knife my granfather brought from Spain. Made in Toledo, carbon steel. That knive took a wicked edge and sharpened easily. I would be surprised if that knife was much harder than 52 HRC or so.
Something similar is happening with full flat grind. Everything now seems to be FFG. I get it for a chef knife, but a utilty folding knife, let alone a tactical folder, also being FFG?? That makes no sense. But people now believe that FFG means sharp, so you have FFG 62HRC "tactical" folders.
LOL. Agreed. I have a knife that is over 100 years, old made of plain carbon steel that takes a hair poppin edge.
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Gaston, is that a knife or are you just happy to see me

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The insanity continues. Doesn't everyone know that black leather is more water resistant than brown leather? lol.
That's why water buffaloes are black.

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That's why water buffaloes are black.

I guess SOG didn' know anything when they had Sokai switch Conrad `Ben`Baker's 7 inch SOG Recon from brown leather to black, as were all the subsequent 6 inch bowies (Dietmar Pohl P.31) ... Oh yeah, that was for ninja stealth, with the huge bright brass guard, pommel and the still brown handle. Riiight...

Everyone knows at night, shiny black leather is a lot more stealthy than soaking wet brown...

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