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"contain 250 tons of steel from Germany and the lower floors will be surrounded with blast-resistant glass from China."

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Color me ticked off. We have an excellent glass plant in East Tennessee, which has changed hands several times since it was built. Currently it's either 100% Canadian or a joint Canadian-American venture.

No doubt the Chinese glass is/was cheaper... Wonder if the Chinese company gets money from their government/discounted or free electric and water (subsidies)/or protected industry status...
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Let's all thank the liberals for their negotiation abilities, when it comes to free trade agreements. I can hardly wait to see the whitehouse unemployment figures for this month. I'm sure it'll be a wonderful lie, 8.9% tops.
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Blast resistant. Sounds like a good idea to me.
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The local glass plant has in years past supplied the bullet-proof glass for the U. S. president's limousines. We have commemorative triangular shaped bookends made from the part of the production run that was not used.

The company has the technology and experience. Also, they upgraded their equipment after my dad retired.
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I'm still mad at Wilson. And he was president 50 years before I was born.
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So when is someone going to blame Bush for this? My guess is by the end of page 2 of this thread
I blame Obushma
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They don't think American industry is qualified to produce the materials to build it.
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As a Glazier, I worked on the City Center in Las Vegas, Several hotel/casinos in a group, each 50-60 stories high, all glass exteriors.....all glass and frames came from China. The company was Far East Aluminum(They did that huge building in Dubai)..Americans installed it all......
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As disheartening as this is, considering the unemployment rate in our country...it doesn't surprise me.

We were sold down the river decades ago.
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Let's all thank the liberals for their negotiation abilities, when it comes to free trade agreements. I can hardly wait to see the whitehouse unemployment figures for this month. I'm sure it'll be a wonderful lie, 8.9% tops.
I agree totally. After the figures come out I always wonder what they really are. If you will notice for example when they come out if you look at another countries news website the numbers have been at least a percent higher (BBC)

For all the things built in this country, You would think this one fricken time it could be made from all American materials.
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I guess when we pay the bills, we can say where the materials come from. But we do not pay the bills.

I think the author of the article knows that. The main point of the article seems to be the fact that the USA is no longer the leader of steel production, glass production or any production! In fact the USA has become de-industrialized.
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As disheartening as this is, considering the unemployment rate in our country...it doesn't surprise me.

We were sold down the river decades ago.
True, but the unemployment rates are all the more reason to buy American.
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I guess when we pay the bills, we can say where the materials come from. But we do not pay the bills.

I think the author of the article knows that. The main point of the article seems to be the fact that the USA is no longer the leader of steel production, glass production or any production! In fact the USA has become de-industrialized.
Good post.

Basic macro-economic theory says that goods will be produced where it is most efficient to produce them (artificially sustained or not,) and capitalism says that goods and services will be purchased from companies that can produce them most efficiently.

At least until recently, it has been the case that it's simply cheaper to produce all sorts of goods from leather shoes to electronics to steel and aluminum overseas. The combination of inexpensive labor, cheap utilities, and favorable tax burdens has proven deadly to US jobs - thousands of jobs and factories have relocated out of the US.

In a sense the US HAS become de-industrialized, to the point that the US is no longer competitive on the world market - products made here simply cost more because of the higher costs of labor, utilities, and tax base.

Until the US begins to manufacture products that cannot be manufactured overseas, or comes up with services that are most efficiently provided in the US, we are going to continue to become a service economy primarily providing lower wage jobs - and we're going to see our domestic manufacturing base continue to disintegrate.

It isn't that US companies an't make decent glass - it's that any glass produced in the US is going to cost 2 or 3 times as much as glass from China, and that includes the transportation costs to ship it to New York.

Until we solve that basic riddle, that US manufacturing can't compete on a global scale, those 14 million out-of-work Americans will not be getting jobs anytime soon....unless it's with stimulus dollars that add to the overall US debt.
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From what I have learned from comments from many people on many forums is that American factories and American workers can't make anything worth buying. I am always told that Americans can't make automobiles, Americans can't make televisions and electronics, Americans can't make motorcycles or ATV's, Americans can't make most anything. That is why most things on most shelves in most stores are imported and most of these people that tell me American's can't make anything worth buying say it isn't worth looking for American Made products.

I don't believe this, and I normally make a solid effort at finding an American Made product whenever possible. Most times I can find things Made In USA, but sometimes it is impossible.

As for imported Chinese glass being installed on the building, why didn't the Union Members drop all this glass during the install or better yet why didn't they demand the building be constructed with American goods? I bet every worker there in New York is Union. Why don't the Unions have enough American Pride to demand Union Made glass and steel?

(I was Union for 17 years until I retired last year. I did not support most of what our Union stood for but as a Police Officer I needed to be a Union Member in case I ever needed legal representation due to a shoot. Fortunately I never needed it, but it was cheaper to pay the dues than to pay for my own attorney if it was ever needed)
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It might be blast resistant glass but it wont stop a plane.
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Hypothetically:

What would happen to the USA if on the day of completion, a 767 struck the side and caused the WTC to collapse (again)?
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I can assure you no place would get anywhere close to that thing.
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So we started paying back the chinese
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From what I have learned from comments from many people on many forums is that American factories and American workers can't make anything worth buying. I am always told that Americans can't make automobiles, Americans can't make televisions and electronics, Americans can't make motorcycles or ATV's, Americans can't make most anything. That is why most things on most shelves in most stores are imported and most of these people that tell me American's can't make anything worth buying say it isn't worth looking for American Made products.
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Funny thing though is that this is not the case OVERSEAS! They like American made products and perceive them to be high-quality.

Did you know that Ford is a LUXURY automobile in China? They are like mercedes over here.
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