Alabama sheriffs unite against gun reform measure

[cnpiso]

Recent article at Guns.com site:

http://www.guns.com/2015/08/12/alaba...eform-measure/

From the article:

Bemoaning the loss of may-issue practices, a group of Alabama sheriffs assembled Tuesday to stand against a bill to expand carry rights to vehicles in the state.

At stake is a measure proposed by Sen. Gerald Allen, R-Tuscaloosa, which would allow the carry of loaded guns in vehicles by those without a current concealed carry permit. The measure passed the Senate Committee on Finance and Taxation by a 7-1 vote without debate earlier this month. The bill had passed the Senate as a whole during the regular session in May but was left in a holding pattern until brought back up in the current special session.

And the sheriffs do not want it.

“There’s legislation being put forward that wants to allow you to have a loaded weapon in your car, under your seat, without any background check, without any pistol permit as an extension of your home,” Russell County Sheriff Heath Taylor said Tuesday. “And we are absolutely opposed to that.”

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[REM]

I don't think that I would like living in Alabama.

[MIL-DOT]

Originally Posted by REM

I don't think that I would like living in Alabama.

Despite this exception, it's generally better than most of the rest of the country,as far as gun-rights go.

[Kalashnikov47]

Sounds like the voters need to get rid of these sheriffs. Their arguments sound an awful lot like gun grabber arguments. If someone owns a firearm already that means they have ALREADY passed a background check through the NICS system when they obtained it. The only difference is they would have the firearm in their vehicle instead of at home. These sheriffs make it sound as if someone has a loaded firearm in their vehicle its the end of the world.

[spacemanspiff]

They like it so they can throw that extra charge of having a gun ,even though it is under the seat. I guess the juries here are more likely to convict if you have a gun.


My sheriff, offered to get a pic of my wife from her driver license and put it on her ccw license because she wouldn't take time to get it.

He wants all women to carry. Well maybe not all.

[spacemanspiff]

Originally Posted by MIL-DOT

Despite this exception, it's generally better than most of the rest of the country,as far as gun-rights go.

When Alabama was a may issue state, in all but a few counties, the only thing that stood between a law abiding person and a ccw was the $20 they charged.

[MonsterMash]

I still love my home state. But damn its messed up in some of its laws.

But, what can you expect from the state that outlawed dildos. Seriously. If that law got repealed, I've got no reason to believe that shall issue won't pass as much as we love our guns.

[ksmedman]

I'm guessing those Sheriff's aren't Oath Keepers...

[spacemanspiff]

Shall issue passed a few years ago. Alabama is a shall issue state. Open carry is ok too.

[spacemanspiff]

Out of 67 sheriffs, only 12 or so oppose it according to the article.

[icanoe]

Alabama permits are issued by the sheriffs department and the fees go to the department. Since a lot of permits are obtained so that that the permit holder can keep a gun in the car (and they don't carry concealed otherwise), these sheriffs may be concerned about a loss of revenue.

[REM]

Originally Posted by icanoe

Alabama permits are issued by the sheriffs department and the fees go to the department. Since a lot of permits are obtained so that that the permit holder can keep a gun in the car (and they don't carry concealed otherwise), these sheriffs may be concerned about a loss of revenue.

If the problem is a lack of profit, or revenue flow in a Sheriff's office during the normal course of granting our civil rights then the wrong people are in uniform.

[CritJoe]

Saw this, a Sheriff from a nearby count is one of the 12. Even though I don't live in that county I still wrote in a complaint then shared it on the local news channel's Facebook hoping others would at least copy/paste it to the offending Sheriff as well.

[MadDawg]

All citizens for which it is legal for them to own firearms should be able to carry, open or concealed, on their person or in their vehicles anywhere if you asked me. I believe in Constitutional open carry and Constitutional concealed carry.

The only reason to make it illegal to have a gun in your car is to be able to throw that charge on you and make you into a criminal . That is utter BS.

Felons are already forbidden from owning or possessing firearms; there's no need to create a new charge for them; nor will a new law deter them.. nope, those sheriffs should be fired & replaced. Nothing that they are suggesting will increase LEO safety; just laws to fine, and to turn the rest of us law abiding citizens into criminals ..

[Viper6Niner]

I'm not sure what they are so worried about. Anyone who intends to shoot at them if they are pulled over are likely already driving around with a loaded weapon and no idea what is is isn't legal.

[Dixie_Dude]

You can already carry it unloaded and out of reach in your car now. You can also open carry, even though in some places one might get charged for "inciting a riot" or something if someone freeks out about you carrying openly.

I live in a town of 52,000 people (college town). I would not open carry in public as someone might freek out and call the cops. Now, I do know of a retired Army officer who carries his Colt 1911 openly when he is outside cutting grass or trimming bushes on his property. He just want's anyone who happens to drive by to know he is armed. I may start doing that myself as they are building a new high school 2 blocks up the street from me. Let the kids know I am armed and carry. Our town is fairly conservative yet still has a lot of liberal professors at the college, and a lot of out of town and out of state students. (Student population is 25,000). It is however an agricultural, engineering, vet school, big ROTC program, etc, thus the more conservative nature.

[CritJoe]

Originally Posted by Dixie_Dude

You can already carry it unloaded and out of reach in your car now. You can also open carry, even though in some places one might get charged for "inciting a riot" or something if someone freeks out about you carrying openly.

I live in a town of 52,000 people (college town). I would not open carry in public as someone might freek out and call the cops. Now, I do know of a retired Army officer who carries his Colt 1911 openly when he is outside cutting grass or trimming bushes on his property. He just want's anyone who happens to drive by to know he is armed. I may start doing that myself as they are building a new high school 2 blocks up the street from me. Let the kids know I am armed and carry. Our town is fairly conservative yet still has a lot of liberal professors at the college, and a lot of out of town and out of state students. (Student population is 25,000). It is however an agricultural, engineering, vet school, big ROTC program, etc, thus the more conservative nature.

Not trying to out where you live but it sounds like you live near a place that many SEC fans would call West Georgia.

[Dragunov]

Originally Posted by Viper6Niner

I'm not sure what they are so worried about. Anyone who intends to shoot at them if they are pulled over are likely already driving around with a loaded weapon and no idea what is is isn't legal.

We can carry, loaded, and concealed in our vehicles as an extension of our homes. To the dismay of liberals, there is no "blood in the streets" here. Actually, there are few to no car jackings here either, come to think of it.

[Dixie_Dude]

East Alabama, WAR EAGLE!

[CritJoe]

Originally Posted by Dixie_Dude

East Alabama, WAR EAGLE!

Lol War Eagle my friend.