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Been reloading for a year or so but never thought about black powder in my Marlin 336C. It has ballard rifling, made in 1952, and from what I have read and heard can be just fine using BP and a lighter projectile. I was just wondering if anyone had a formula that works for them so I can get a good starting point for testing.

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Yep. Pack as much powder as you can into the cartridge that you can still insert and crimp a bullet into. Dump it back out and weigh it and then copy it. All the recipe you need.
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Yep, you can not get enough BP into a .32spl case to hurt the gun. They were designed for smokeless and no amount of BP is going to hurt them.

Do not waste your time on light bullets. The best you are going to do is about 2000fps with any cast bullet you use so go for the heavy slugs, 180-200gn.

After you shoot it you will have to take it down to the stock screws to clean it. None of this wiping the bore out and oiling it and putting it away. That BP will get back into the bolt and work on the firing pin, bolt face, extractor and ejector as well as the inside of the frame.
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Just an aside....the Winchester 94 that Ben used in Night of the Living Dead was chambered in .32 Win Spl. That was the classic 1968 Romero flick of course. Romero bit the big one day before yesterday.

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There's a pretty decent thread over on the highroad right now on loading cartridges with black powder.

https://www.thehighroad.org/index.ph...e-guns.821193/
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Cleaning out those bottleneck cases will be a major pain, too. There's the reason that bottlenecks didn't become popular until the smokeless era. You can use a brush on a straight case. In any event, the moment the round is fired drop the empty case in a jar of water, preferably soapy. That way the powder residue won't harden up so badly. Some say use dilute vinegar. Others swear by dilute antifreeze.
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Here's some data I copied. I hope this helps:
Winchester's Catalogue No. 70,1903, 32 Winchester Special Cartridge:
.32 Winchester Special Caliber.
For Smokeless Or Black Powder.

We have adapted the popular Winchester Model 1894 rifle to handle the new .32 Winchester Special Cartridge, and are prepared to furnish it in solid frame or take-down style with 26 inch round, octagon, or half-octagon nickel steel barrels with full or half magazines. Rifles for the .32 Winchester Special Cartridge are fitted with a new and specially designed rear sight, which is graduated for either Smokeless or Black powder cartridges. All extras furnished on .30 W. C. F. or .38-55 caliber Model 1894 rifles can be furnished for this gun except extra light weight barrels. Model 1894 .32-40 caliber rifles will not handle the .32 Winchester Special Cartridge, and .30 Winchester caliber rifles cannot be bored up to do so.

The .32 Winchester Special Cartridge, which we have just perfected, is offered to meet the demand of many sportsmen for a Smokeless powder cartridge of larger caliber than the .30 Winchester and yet not so powerful as the .30 U. S. Army, and which could be reloaded with black powder and give satisfactory results. The .32 Winchester Special Cartridge meets all these requirements. Loaded with Smokeless powder and a 170 grain bullet, it has a muzzle velocity of 2,112 foot seconds, thereby generating a muzzle energy of 1,683 foot pounds. At the standard testing distance of 15 feet from the muzzle, this cartridge, with a full metal patched bullet, will give a penetration of 37, 7/8 inch pine boards. Its trajectory is as follows:

100 yards Trajectory. Height at 50 yards, 1.17 inches.
200 yards Trajectory. Height at 100 yards, 5.60 inches.
300 yards Trajectory. Height at 150 yards, 15.26 inches.

From these figures it will be readily seen that the advantages of this cartridge are its great striking energy, penetration, high velocity and consequent flat trajectory.

With a charge of 40 grains of black powder, the .32 Winchester Special develops a velocity of 1,385 foot seconds, which makes it a powerful black powder cartridge. In loading or reloading the .32 Winchester Special with black powder the Winchester No. 5 ½ primer should be used.

We load this cartridge with Smokeless powder only, but are prepared to furnish primed shells, full metal patched, metal patched soft pointed, or plain lead bullets, and reloading tools, for loading black powder only. We do not advise hand loading or reloading of this cartridge with Smokeless powder by individuals.

As for BP case cleaning: I shoot blackpowder cartridges in 45 Colt, 38-55, 40-65SS, 40-70 Ballard, 45-70, and 577 Snider. As you can imagine, I have tried about everything under the sun. On the range, I keep a plastic bucket with water and Simple Green. Seal the bucket and shake it up good when I get home, then rinse. I then tumble in a rotary tumbler with SS pins. Cover with water in tumbler and squirt some Dawn dishwashing liquid with Oxyclean plus 2 teaspoons of Lemishine and tumble for a couple of hours. When you open it, there will be lots of suds and black water. Then rinse thoroughly! Comes out looking practically new!
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Uncle Billy - Don't forget to use a good blackpowder bullet lube that will fill the grooves and stay put until fired. You can pan lube using some of the recipes posted in another thread in this section.

You probably know all this stuff already, but I'm throwing it out there for folks who don't know.
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