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Old 01-21-2018, 07:39 PM
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He is manning up. He's not kicking the DACA can down the road, and so sorry, he isn't giving you liberals what you shut down the government to get.

The republicans have said flat out that they're willing to negotiate a DACA bill after this shut down is fixed. Not before. Let the democrats stew on that. Y'all don't run **** anymore.

You can't blame every single shut down on the republicans. This is your shut down. Enjoy it, bitches.
That's right. Those Republicans who stopped the DREAM Act 3 times as a minority and now that they run things they will make sure it passes... So tell me again that the Democrats don't run things? The Republicans are in the majority but the thing they've opposed for almost 2 decades and that the Democrats have tried to get passed is suddenly going to pass. The Democrats should have surrendered the leadership to the Republicans years ago, even when they still held the majority. Getting Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell into the leadership roles was the best thing to ever happen to the Democratic agenda.
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The Military has had immigrants who are not citizens in their ranks for decades.
After a few years they earn their citizenship.
Its a good program.
It's a program. But if those who get citizenship out of it serve with honor and uphold their oaths, then I'm happy to have them. When I was in the service, it was the Filipinos that were largely getting citizenship for serving. Many of them, like many immigrants today, despised the United States. But chain migration got their extended families to the US where they all got new lives at the expense of the United States.
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The Dems want their votes.

Trump throws meat scraps at his base.

In my business I work with and know many. 85% good people.
I don't care how wonderful they are. If they are ILLEGAL, then THROW THEM OUT.

And their damned anchor babies, too.
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You obviously don't understand how DACA works.

We have Daca kids proudly serving in the Military. Maybe you could slap a felony on the Marines. Good luck. Some of them are great people.
I am all for arresting and court-marshalling any member of the Armed Forces that illegally brought a criminal alien into the services.
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That is a load of crap!! Maybe you should learn the difference between illegal aliens and documented workers
You Trumpets never cease to amaze me with how much you ignore facts in defense of Trump. I, on the other hand, have supported him since he won the primary and since he won the general elections. I support him because he's the President and because he's not Hillary and I'm thrilled that we have him instead of Hillary. But, I didn't stop using my brain once he was elected. It seems that many Trumpets quit using their brains as soon as he announced he was running. More shut down their thinking caps when he wont he primary and even more when he won the election.

So, let's quit sniffing his arse and get to the facts:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...rumped-n397821

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...p-tower-was-p/
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The root problem with DACA...

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It's a program. But if those who get citizenship out of it serve with honor and uphold their oaths, then I'm happy to have them. When I was in the service, it was the Filipinos that were largely getting citizenship for serving. Many of them, like many immigrants today, despised the United States. But chain migration got their extended families to the US where they all got new lives at the expense of the United States.
The Roman army granted citizenship to a barbarian, but he had to serve (and survive) twenty years. A two-year hitch in a safe stateside berth ain't nearly enough to prove commitment, IMHO. I might compromise at twelve.
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I don't care how wonderful they are. If they are ILLEGAL, then THROW THEM OUT.

And their damned anchor babies, too.
Guess you are going to have to wait.

Not illegal yet.

You scared?
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Trump will trade DACA for "The Wall". He is not an ideologue.
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Guess you are going to have to wait.

Not illegal yet.

You scared?
They most certainly ARE illegal. DACA only allowed them breathing space by promising not to prosecute/deport them for a period of time. That action by Obama E.O. was/is in itself illegal, and ought to have been rescinded in January 2017, but Trump let it ride. The no-prosecution policy is set to expire on its' own in March, which is why all the panic on the Demagogue side to get a law passed in Congress to give them further cover, or outright amnesty. Because Trump won't renew the illegal E.O. A law would be legal, but extremely bad policy, Wall or no Wall.
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They most certainly ARE illegal. DACA only allowed them breathing space by promising not to prosecute/deport them for a period of time. That action by Obama E.O. was/is in itself illegal, and ought to have been rescinded in January 2017, but Trump let it ride. The no-prosecution policy is set to expire on its' own in March, which is why all the panic on the Demagogue side to get a law passed in Congress to give them further cover, or outright amnesty. Because Trump won't renew the illegal E.O. A law would be legal, but extremely bad policy, Wall or no Wall.
Legal now.
Not legal in March.
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One item that should be off the table for ever is Chain Migration. No way someone brings relatives with them if they win a lottery, which should also be illegal. Come the way it was meant to be, learn English, be productive, enter.
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The merit system has flaws. Sure, the caliber might rise but people won't come without their family. If it's strictly brain drain, why would they come here?
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You Trumpets never cease to amaze me with how much you ignore facts in defense of Trump. I, on the other hand, have supported him since he won the primary and since he won the general elections. I support him because he's the President and because he's not Hillary and I'm thrilled that we have him instead of Hillary. But, I didn't stop using my brain once he was elected. It seems that many Trumpets quit using their brains as soon as he announced he was running. More shut down their thinking caps when he wont he primary and even more when he won the election.

So, let's quit sniffing his arse and get to the facts:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...rumped-n397821

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...p-tower-was-p/
Lol. You are presenting PMSNBC and Po****ofact as facts. Unbelievable.
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Trump will trade DACA for "The Wall". He is not an ideologue.
If he traded DACA for the wall, I'd say it was a good deal for our national security. But he'll trade it for a partial fence with a few pieces of wall for the cameras. It won't even go ocean to ocean. He's selling it all out.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news...ys/1019419001/
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Legal now.
Not legal in March.
They're not legal. President Obama admitted several times that he did not have the authority to do what he was doing. DACA is an illegal, unconstitutional program and has no legal weight. They're illegal. It takes Mitch McConnell, Paul Ryan, and Donald Trump to make them legal. So, illegal now, legal by February 8.
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The merit system has flaws. Sure, the caliber might rise but people won't come without their family. If it's strictly brain drain, why would they come here?
I work with a lot of legal immigrants who came without their families. They work hard, live within their means, save money, and travel home to see family from time to time. Or they bring their family here to visit by a Visa from time to time.

People have been leaving mama's bosom to go make their own fortune since the beginning of time.
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Lol. You are presenting PMSNBC and Po****ofact as facts. Unbelievable.
Show me any supported repudiation to the facts presented.

Just because Fox won't tell you that doesn't make it not true.

I'm not saying that as something for which Trump should be destroyed; I'm just saying that he's a businessman and illegal, cheap, labor has been very good for business. Ask the National Chamber of Commerce and the Republicans why they support illegal immigration.
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Democrats deliberately sabotaged even the semblance of negotiating with **** Durbin's ****hole lie. My senator Perdue says Trump did not say that and Durbin is a bald face liar. Even if Trump did say that leaking to the press content of a closed meeting was meant only as an act of sabotage. I am hoping that Trump finally deeply understands his opponents are only devotees of the by any way necessary rule of politics. Regardless of whatever good Trump can do in foreign policy, the economy, restoration of rule of law, the best thing he can do for America is to mess them up to the full measure he can. Not just being vindictive but their whole mob needs a major stomping down.
Plain and simple, Richard Durbin has no shame, and is a tool, in more ways than one.
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They're not legal. President Obama admitted several times that he did not have the authority to do what he was doing. DACA is an illegal, unconstitutional program and has no legal weight. They're illegal. It takes Mitch McConnell, Paul Ryan, and Donald Trump to make them legal. So, illegal now, legal by February 8.

Legally work, go to school, get a valid drivers license, pay income taxes, and legally reside in the US.

All work permits are going to be honored until they expire. I believe they allowed some applications that weren't processed in September??. Could be wrong. So yeah, they are legally here but sweating bullets about their individual expiration date.

You didn't think they were all getting thrown out in March did you?
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