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Is it safe to use creosote telephone poles for a pole barn where livestock will be kept?

A place here in Jasper Texas sells culled poles in both pressure treated and creosote. Price for either type of pole is the same, which is $2 a foot.

Related thread - using telephone poles for fence post.

After I get the new chicken yard finished my next project is a deck on the back of the house, and then fence in a few acres for livestock and a barn.

I am probably looking at a year or so before I start the pole barn. I may buy some poles as money allows during the next year or so.

What I am worried about is the cattle and goats rubbing up against the creosote and it burning their skin. Is creosote a humane option to use for a pole barn?
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Is it safe to use creosote telephone poles for a pole barn where livestock will be kept?

A place here in Jasper Texas sells culled poles in both pressure treated and creosote. Price for either type of pole is the same, which is $2 a foot.

Related thread - using telephone poles for fence post.

After I get the new chicken yard finished my next project is a deck on the back of the house, and then fence in a few acres for livestock and a barn.

I am probably looking at a year or so before I start the pole barn. I may buy some poles as money allows during the next year or so.

What I am worried about is the cattle and goats rubbing up against the creosote and it burning their skin. Is creosote a humane option to use for a pole barn?
No problem as long as they aren't still wet.
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No problem as long as they aren't still wet.
These are freshly dipped poles.
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These were used for fence posts, pole barns, etc, for decades, until they suddenly were banned. I haven't been able to buy any decently treated lumber in years. The "treated" lumber sold at Home Depot, etc doesn’t last much longer than non treated wood and the bugs eat it almost as soon as regular lumber. Also, you have to use galvanized nails or the chemicals will rust them in no time. I don’t know what kind of treatment the newer power poles have, but it must be better than common commercially sold lumber.

Sorry, you reminded me of a real pain I’ve had to deal with for years now, since they banned the old type of wood treatment.
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there are pole barns on the old home place that are creosote built at least say 80+ years old. they've housed horses, cattle, swine, three kinds of fowl and hundrds of tons in machinery that I know of. they are still standing.

TPTB started banning the things that work as soon as there was a profit in replacing it.
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An alternative to the creosote poles are CCA treated poles.

They would be under a barn, so why not go with CCA instead of creosote?
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http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/toxguides/toxguide-85.pdf

the upshot of the ban on creosote is "we think it's bad for you but we can't prove it."
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We have used soaked telephone poles like that for corner posts with no issues.
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could always wrap the exposed poles with canvas or something or even clad the exposed areas with other wood
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Mmmm...
Some info here on DIY Creo...
http://www.cattletoday.com/forum/vie...p?t=15045&f=16

http://www.gardenbanter.co.uk/united...yone-help.html

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I have a barn built with them, the pigs scratch themselves on the post, the fence and anything else they can rub on. Im more worried about sun burn!
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On my father and uncle's farm we used old culled phone poles for fence corners, barn poles, gate posts, you name it... I never saw any ill effects from the cows or horses we kept... I'll be using some when I get time/money to start working on fencing off part of my property to put some livestock on...
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