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Old 03-04-2012, 07:55 PM
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If it's the 750cc rear tined I bought it last year.

GET IT!

Great tiller. We have some HARD pack earth here, had to actually get part of the land broken with a tractor, but where the edge is, I was able to cut into the nasty hard pack mud never been dug into earth with it.



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I think I'm going to do it..if it's still there. I'd feel better knowing it's sitting collecting dust this year rather then thinking about using my mattock and shovel next year when I have to plant for survival and it's not available.

Anyway, going back to what Prag...said, Why wouldn't I utilize the land within spitting distance of my house post SHTF? It would be my plan to use it, whether the owners are alive or not. My BOL is my house. I do not have the advantage of a BOL with land to raise crops nor do I live in the "sticks". I live 60 miles from Pittsburgh, 50 miles from Erie, 20 miles from Youngstown, OH... in a small town (2000 people) and I'm on the edge of it. Originally being from NYC I would call this the sticks but I am still "in town". Within a 1/4 mile of my house it opens up to farmland but I figure it's out of my range to accurately hit a target with my 308.
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no til methods protect the soil alot more actually preventing erosion and runoff most organic farms practice it now

and would a SHTF scenario kinda force you into organic farming?...
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Could I buy a tiller for my Kubota tractor "L4400" cheaper or about the same price as what a large walk-behind rear tine tiller would cost?
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no til methods protect the soil alot more actually preventing erosion and runoff most organic farms practice it now

and would a SHTF scenario kinda force you into organic farming?...
Sometime you must till or nothing will grow in the spot.

Erosion and runoff happens when you do not rotate crops depleting the top soil. By tilling the soil with a compost you are actually building a better top soil.



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I said don't plan on it. Planning on being able to use something you don't own is bad planning.
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Prag,

Why is it bad planning? Two scenerios:

#1-neighbors who have the property are dead..They didn't last the first few months of post SHTF..therefore their property is available

#2-They are preppers and survived....I think they would be willing to turn their yards/lawns into productive fields?

What is your situation? in town/city, live on a farm, live in the woods, etc?
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Yep, what 2Dogs said.

All I have is a big front tine and it's a workout (understatement), especially if you happen upon a big root.

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As long as you don't have any big rocks, and have the money, buy the tiller.

I have rocks so I have been slowly chopping the soil and picking out the rocks. A tiller will then follow.

But I think I'll get a tiller for the tractor. A small garden tractor and tiller would make quick work of an acre.
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Get the tiller, it'll save you a lot of labor over the hand tool methods of gardening but have the hand tools available if need be. If shtf there are 2 gas powered tools that will save a great deal of time and labor and will produce much needed supplies and those are a tiller and a chainsaw. Shtf these are the things stored gas is best used for, not a generator in my opinion. It's easy to set yourself up to live without electricty but you can get a lot more food and firewood with these 2 items than you can by hand. Also every one who keeps saying don't get it because shtf there won't be gas are overlooking the most likely shtf scenario of them all in my opinion and that's the slow economic burn we have starting right now. In that case gas while expensive will be available to use in your tiller and your tiller will help raise enough food that you otherwise won't be able to afford or that will be in short supply.
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I pulled the trigger....getting it tomorrow. and yes rear tine 18" wide,

A couple years ago,I did a small garden (20'x20') with a front tine and it kicked the shyte out of me.
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I pulled the trigger....getting it tomorrow. and yes rear tine 18" wide,

A couple years ago,I did a small garden (20'x20') with a front tine and it kicked the shyte out of me.
It's a great tiller.

Make sure that the grass is cut as short as possible before starting out.

If you have a hard pack, you might want to get a "lip" started for the tiller to dig into.

Start with the shallowest cut. It'll take a few passes but once you get through the grass, it will just eat the dirt.



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An old Allis Chalmers big 10 and a chisel plow is better than a tiller or a moldboard if you've got loamy soil. If your soil is kinda sandy a tiller is great.
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