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Decided to build another cabin by a creek in the wild. 13 years ago i traveled thru Alaska and saw many log cabins. . . one that really impressed me, because of its minimalist living style, was an old Trappers cabin. It was two meters by 2.7 meters - had a wood stove inside with several shelves for food and one simple little bed. That was it! TRappers used these to stay in while they ran their trapping route/line. They were probably built in 2 days.

So mine will be about that same size. Intend to put 2 small beds in and a military wood burning stove in it. Won't use ALL indigenous trees or wood but some. Will use SOME store bought lumber, like treated 4x4's. Have never built one in the dead of winter, so here goes. Right now there is only about 15 cm of snow on the ground and the creek is pretty much frozen over. The temp last night was -18 C.

Actually started today getting some lumber out to the site. Will post photos as it progresses.

Hope to keep my budget around $400.

Some critter had been walking around, here's his tracks. Plus these will be my main tools: Gransfors Bruks carving axe, a new Cold Steel Forest axe and the little drywall axe. Didn't have my saw handy.



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Sounds like fun actually. Stay warm and keep us posted please.
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Looking forward to seeing how it looks!!!! Good Luck!
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Looking forward to it aswell!!!
Good luck!!!
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albertjohnson: You would be much better off if you used 6 x 6's...pressurized, and you have the option of 8', 10' or 12' lengths...heavier, sure, but will provide greater rigidity and will last and last.
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Ax and hatchet? No chainsaw?
I'll be the first to say it: You're nuts - but courageous!

You'll certainly gain some great skills when you're done.
Good luck.
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Like I said, will use some store bought lumber. Thinking now, may use 2x4's instead of spending so much time cutting trees and notching. Would like to finish this cabin in a short time. But now am thinking, with the temps so cold, may only be able to work an hour at a time - no heat and no generator.
My land is fairly remote, but still, I don't want wandering opportunists to break in afterwards and steal anything...so have semi decided to create a false floor and hide food supplies down there. Just have a rough idea of the cabin, drew it out on paper as was buying the 4x4's. May change plans as I progress.
Just checked the weather, supposed to snow tomorrow. Ugh.
Will take photos of the site and land tomorrow and post.
May have to buy a new hand saw, as mine is pretty old and worn. Pays to have sharp tools. That trail boss cold steel axe looks pretty hearty, we'll see.
The cabin in english units will be roughly 6' x 8'. And a very small, stoop over to get in. door.
Those trappers of old used very small cabins, low ceilings, about 2 meters high, so their heat source would heat well with just a few sticks.
It's going to be a long winter here and this project gets my blood to pumping.
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This sounds really cool, can't wait to see what you come up with.
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Albert Johnson, youy related to Jeremiah Johnson?

Keep us updated with photos.
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The more insulation the better...
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Keep us updated, but let us know what kind of things you run into along the way both positive and negative.
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albertjohnson: You would be much better off if you used 6 x 6's...pressurized, and you have the option of 8', 10' or 12' lengths...heavier, sure, but will provide greater rigidity and will last and last.
I'm assuming you mean pressure treated 6x6? Big no-no. While easy to stack and build with, the out gassing of the treatment chemicals will make you sick if you spend much time inside of a building constructed with P.T. lumber. Buying rough sawn 6x6 from a small local sawmill would be a better choice.
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Up at 4:30 this morning thinking/excited about the project. Yessir Joes, thought about that all night, the insulation and how i'll do the interior. I want inexpensive and fast, so was thinking drywall, course some type of wood would be better looking. We'll see.

Sgt Booker with his big .44 - 'related to Jeremiah Johnson' - Ole liver eatin' Johnson? I may have BEEN JJ in a past life.

Maine, I'd heard that too about the breathing PT wood. He probably meant only for the foundation, as did I. That swirled thru my head as was trying to go to sleep, how to handle the foundation as I can't dig in the winter. So right now thinking about slab of rock under the PT foundation and just trying to get it level.

Had 2 building sites in mind. One was on top of a little mound with great views, but 30 meters and a little cliff to get to the creek. The other is right by the creek, or 5 meters away. Leaning toward the 'by the creek' site.

The stove I've already ordered. Can cook on it and heat with it and purify creek water with it. http://cgi.ebay.com/Portable-Militar...item1c18a2e437

I'm thinking those tracks were that of a fox. I've seen the sly trickster around several times out looking for slow rabbits.

Full moon out as I sit drinking my cup of joe and it is dark and quiet all around.
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You aren't concerned about the ground shifting in the spring when it thaws?

Sounds like a fun project. Not something I would take on in the dead of winter, but that is just me.
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Looks like great project. Keep all of us posted. Plenty of pictures please.
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Can't wait to see this. I'm up at 4:30 every morning, but for my indoor job unfortunately. A cup of coffee watching the sun rise is a great way to start a day outdoors.
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I'm assuming you mean pressure treated 6x6? Big no-no. While easy to stack and build with, the out gassing of the treatment chemicals will make you sick if you spend much time inside of a building constructed with P.T. lumber. Buying rough sawn 6x6 from a small local sawmill would be a better choice.
Northernmaine: Yep...you're right. Being that I am here in NJ, we never get the type of lumber you suggest, and IF we were able they would cost as much as a used Mercedez-Benz. Never-the-less, 6x6's would be better. I was just wondering if where albert johnson wants to build whether or not there are termites and other wood-boring buggers.
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No termites around here, too cold and too high in elevation.

After it got light, I tried the trail boss axe out to chop down this tree - it'll be cut in 2 pieces and used for front porch posts. This little axe is a good worker, chopped this 20 cm tree down in 90 seconds. Man lumberjacks must be in good shape - it winded me good.

Had to go to a little town nearby to get subflooring and a new hand saw. They have a small lumber store and I asked about subflooring. The guy said he had some OSB. I thought about that, and decided it must stand for Obama Survival Boards, so I said, "I'll take it!"

Here's the town on the way:
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Got to my property, it's actually an old gold mining claim. I'm keeping an eye out for gold in the creek. This is an old logging road perhaps.


Once parked, I have to walk about 100 meters up the creek to the site I picked. The creek was frozen over and had some snow on top. Here's a view:


I was lucky to find this site. It has a small cliff in the back of the future cabin and looking to the left, one can see down the trail, in case any terrorists are coming. Looking to the right, one can see Czars or politicians coming. OUt front will be the creek at about 5 meters. Here's looking behind.
The site lies in a valley and doesn't get sun till later in the day. It was just below freezing all day today.
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