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Old 06-12-2017, 12:09 PM
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1. flare gun to signal (can also be used to start fires)
2. pot (cooking, disinfecting, and purifying water)
3. hammock (if I don't use it to sleep on, there is still plenty of cordage)
4. hand saw

Things I didn't take, and why
tarp-you didn't say it was tropical, so I mightn't need it as cover
sunscreen - same as above
toilet paper-I'll make do (but then again, it would be good as a firestarter )
ipod- really?
hiking boots- I'm already wearing a pair
raft- not going anywhere
flashlight- not travelling at night
insect repellent- that stuff has DEET in it!
compass-after extensively being taught while in SAR, I STILL can't use one properly
mirror-not pretty enough to want to see myself, and I'll use my watch and flare gun to signal
vitamins-no, thank you
water purifier- handy, but I'll just boil the water
fishing rod- useless for me (apparently I talk too much, and scare all the fishes away)
rifle- you didn't say I had any ammo
weed- next year it will be legal where I live to grow 4 plants, but until then, no thanks
first aid kit- handy, but too bulky
tent- I could never figure out how to put those up without cussing
knife- they don't let my play with sharp things
matches- I don't smoke
Wilson- while it would be nice to have someone to talk to, the original premise didn't say I was stranded ALONE
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1- Knife seems like the most useful item on the list. You can make something to function like everything else with the knife.
2- Pot because it'd make things easier for cooking. Otherwise you'd have to dig clay or carve wood to make cooking utensils.
3- Handsaw because again cutting down trees with a knife or stone hatchet takes awhile.
4- Tarp is useful for quick shelter and you can wrap up in it if you get cold.
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Raft
Saw
Mirror
Weed

My deserted island happens to be a few feet off the coast. Then I'm going to sell the weed to get cab fare home. Oh and the saw and mirror were paddles for the raft.
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weed
matches
volleyball
ipod

you said dessert island, yeah?
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1. Knife - many uses, etc.

2. Saw - cutting up fire wood, shelter parts, making logs for fishing raft, noise maker (using knife), etc.

3. Rope - strip out strands for fishing, larger strands for making shelter, fire starter bird's nest, making towing harness, making handles for woven baskets, etc.

4. Pot - boiling water, cooking, noise maker (using knife), storing items, etc.

Next choices would be:

5. Tarp - immediate shelter, hauling/carrying items, sail for raft, rain catcher, boat, etc.

6. Water purifier - purification of water, faster than boiling, allows use of pot for other things, etc.

7. Matches - to get first fire started easily, and start another if ever needed (first fire would be kept going and coals carried if required to change locations or do some travelling away from camp), etc.

8. Hammock - allows sleeping off ground, can be used as shelter, sail for tarp boat, off-ground storage, use as raised work space, etc.

And to round it out to the 'standard' 10 items:

9. Boots - protection when moving about, wading, climbing trees, travel over rocks, travel over dangerous ground

10. Hunting rifle if there is adequate ammunition included, else flare gun. Either can be used for signaling, either can be used for protection from predators, either can be used to start a fire, rifle can be used for fishing, plus many other things.

If there was something specific about the island location, type of island, or what is on the island, the choices could change, or change order of importance. For instance, if it was an island off Florida in the summer time, insect repellent would be on the list, even if a fire could be used with greenery to make smoke.

Sunscreen would be on the list if the island had little or no trees or rock outcroppings to provide shade, and it was in an area of long stretches of strong sunlight.

If the food sources were particularly scarce, limited in scope, or otherwise extremely weak in nutrition, the vitamins would go on the list.

Just my opinion.
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In no order except as shown in the picture.
Pot
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Knife
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Fishing rod, knife, pot, matches
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the pot- cook, boil water, storage, signal.
the knife- good general purpose tool.
the rope- building shelter, fire starter, fishing, snares.
the hammock- sleeping, storage, shelter, tote, signaling.
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Saw = cut poles
Rope = tie poles together & make fishing line
Bandaid box = splinters, blisters, battle scars from building said pole cabin cruiser
Water purifier = stay hydrated on the float home
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Where is Kate Upton in the list?
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Based on a premise of needing water, food, and shelter and ultimately rescue, I'd take the following.

1. Pot. Water purification and cooking. Also you need something to store water in throughout the day. A pot works well.
2. Matches. Cooking, water purification, and signaling and warmth. Relying on fire making skills without matches could mean death if you fail. This covers your shelter needs for warmth on a desert island. You can also make improvise bivoac with a knife and fire to "cut" wood into lengths.
3. Knife. Useful for spear fishing, firewood batoning, defense (if necessary from say a wild dog pack or something or sharks if you're swimming in shallow waters, cooking and cleaning fish and game. You can make crude rope with braiding natural fibers. Cut spears for spear fishing and for defense from wild animals. Cut poles for aid in cooking food over fires. Can be heated and used to cauterize a wound if you get injured.
4. Boots. You'll be on your feet constantly, climbing, hiking, gathering food and wood and water. A foot injury (broken toe, sprained ankle, step on a sharp stick or piece of glass or coral reef, bug bites like ants, etc.) and ensuing infection or disability would be life threatening. If you can't walk for two days to gather and purify water, food, gather firewood and tend a fire you would get gradually weaker, more infected, and die.

5th choice is the signal mirror. Very good for long range focused signaling. Reaching planes, even high up or far away unlike fire.
6th choice would be the first aid kit. A bad injury or infection could be the end. But my choices focus on short term survival and getting off the island. My choices reflect survival and signaling to get off the island.


If you remember the film Castaway, fire making, fishing, cooking, and shoes were the biggest issues other than a raft and signaling. And dental work. My choices reflect the most realistic tools to help urgent survival and comfort and getting off the rock.


Some of the attractive things but they would be mistakes are the raft and water purification and compass. A pot is more useful for water purification if there's some fresh water. But if not, it's harder to purify salt water. Taking off with a raft with a compass would be near suicidal and you could drive for weeks or months and suffer and die. Rifle is useless. Rope would be useful, but not a top 4 item. Signal mirror 5th, and First aid would be really nice, probably 6th on my list.
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3 items are mandatory:

Knife
Pot
Matches - unless you are really good with a hand drill/bowsaw, etc

For the 4th, I'd take a tarp, it has many uses, from shelter, to rain catchment, to fish trap, etc.
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I would be afraid the ATF would take my firearms if I wanted the weed.
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Knife, water purifier, matches, and tarp. But that's just me.
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