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Congrats! Even before taking office or a vacation your boy has run up a higher tab than Obama.
Might want to clean your nose.
What planet are you from? Every president and their family get's Secret Service escorts. And when Trump starts hitting that $8 trillion dollar mark, then you can start comparing. Let's at least give the pompous ass a chance...
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BTW, Russia has values that are closer to what we used to have, and I think that is why it appeals to some people. They are an almost 80% Orthodox Christian, Caucasian society. It's definitely better than the alternative that we were presented with over the past eight years (I say this loosely) by the America hating, refugee loving, scumbags that we've had in office.
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Congrats! Even before taking office or a vacation your boy has run up a higher tab than Obama. Might want to clean your nose.
Trump since becoming President-Elect (~1.5 *month*) has done more for the economy (witness: the optimistic and upturned stock market, and the ~800 jobs saved at Carrier) than your economically disastrous President in his whole *8* sorry years. So, at least New York and the rest of the country is actually getting something for their Secret Service moneys spent. Obama is too busy golfing and Hawaii'ing, and giving away the house... (BTW, where *DID* all those trillions go??! Did it make the economy better? Nope. Leftists will never understand giving away stuff never made the economy better; only government getting out of the way of businesses has.)
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Trump since becoming President-Elect (~1.5 *month*) has done more for the economy (witness: the optimistic and upturned stock market, and the ~800 jobs saved at Carrier) than your economically disastrous President in his whole *8* sorry years. So, at least New York and the rest of the country is actually getting something for their Secret Service moneys spent. Obama is too busy golfing and Hawaii'ing, and giving away the house... (BTW, where *DID* all those trillions go??! Did it make the economy better? Nope. Leftists will never understand giving away stuff never made the economy better; only government getting out of the way of businesses has.)
Let me summarize your response: Its okay for taxpayers to pay for guarding Trump's third wife and his first and second wife's kids because it benefits corporate stockholders. Got it.
Apparently the right is okay redistributing taxpayer money when it suits them?
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BTW, Russia has values that are closer to what we used to have, and I think that is why it appeals to some people. They are an almost 80% Orthodox Christian, Caucasian society. It's definitely better than the alternative that we were presented with over the past eight years (I say this loosely) by the America hating, refugee loving, scumbags that we've had in office.
I read a theory that the main historical problem of the West and Russia that the Russian people look like Europeans, but think like Asians.
Asian - is Asian. No one expects the "European" behavior from them. Since Russian is another matter.
At the same time Western people subconsciously expect "European" reaction from the Russian.
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Let me summarize your response: Its okay for taxpayers to pay for guarding Trump's third wife and his first and second wife's kids because it benefits corporate stockholders. Got it.
Apparently the right is okay redistributing taxpayer money when it suits them?
Let me summarize your response: Its okay for taxpayers to pay for guarding Obama and his man-wife to their myriad vacations to the tune of **$85 million**, him all the while wrecking the economy and destroying our international reputation. Got it.

Oh, BTW, Trump's 3rd wife Melania will be First Lady, so of course she'll be protected, just like every other president's wife since the Secret Service has been in existence.

And, I hate to break it to you Pranqs... It's the economy, stup*d.
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It's OK that obama tried to influence the Israeli election and the Brexit vote. What a hypocrite.
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I remember Obama telling Medvedev, he will have more flexibility after he wins the next election.

Obama open mic slip: 'After my election I have more flexibility' - YouTube
I don't see why the angst or worry about Russia. Obama has done so much for Russia over the last eight years that a case might be made that Russia actually secretly influenced the 2008 elections that saw Obama reach the Presidency.

The US world power has been replaced with the apologetic tour. Trump inherits a situation for negotiating that has been compromised. Obama created a Syrian emergency with terrorists that strengthened Russia's profile in the Middle East. He destroyed the country of Libya and turned it into a cauldron of terror and a pipeline for European influx of Muslim refugees. He made NATO irrelevant and the UN a joke. He actually improved the Russian economy encouraging them to develop other aspects of their economy other than oil.

Obama has done more for Russia than any other US President in history.
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I honestly think Russia does not want a conflict.
I agree in some regards. Putin wants to be the Soviet of old where Soviet influence around the world was comparable, if not greater that American influence.

I think Putin is now flexing his new found Russian power and I think having Trump in office will actually benefit Putin in that they can focus on influencing the rest of the world while Trump does his thang!
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