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I went to a large grocery store today which also has a small branch bank located inside. Although located within the framework of the store, the bank is partitioned off with their own space by ropes, counter, etc. The store allows CC but certianly it is forbidden to carry a weapon concealed into the bank, per NC law. I went ahead and did my transaction at the bank with CCW...........In your opinion, or if you actually know the answer....is it OK to do so or was I possibly in violation?.........thanks
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I went to a large grocery store today which also has a small branch bank located inside. Although located within the framework of the store, the bank is partitioned off with their own space by ropes, counter, etc. The store allows CC but certianly it is forbidden to carry a weapon concealed into the bank, per NC law. I went ahead and did my transaction at the bank with CCW...........In your opinion, or if you actually know the answer....is it OK to do so or was I possibly in violation?.........thanks
It depends on State and Local laws on what a definition of a "bank" is.

But in my opinion (since you asked) if you had a concealed carry weapon, the bank shouldn't know anyways unless they had metal detectors.
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I'll have to check on the definition....thanks for the idea. No metal detectors and I know the tellers well enough where if I did make a mistake I don't feel they would really care. I was thinking if a LEO might have happened by about the time. I'll check further into it....thanks
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I went to a large grocery store today which also has a small branch bank located inside. Although located within the framework of the store, the bank is partitioned off with their own space by ropes, counter, etc. The store allows CC but certianly it is forbidden to carry a weapon concealed into the bank, per NC law. I went ahead and did my transaction at the bank with CCW...........In your opinion, or if you actually know the answer....is it OK to do so or was I possibly in violation?.........thanks
I am well versed on Texas CCW law but not-so much for NC. Your Instructor who did the required training with you for your CCW should be able to answer that.
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concealed means concealed.
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I went to a large grocery store today which also has a small branch bank located inside. Although located within the framework of the store, the bank is partitioned off with their own space by ropes, counter, etc. The store allows CC but certianly it is forbidden to carry a weapon concealed into the bank, per NC law. I went ahead and did my transaction at the bank with CCW...........In your opinion, or if you actually know the answer....is it OK to do so or was I possibly in violation?.........thanks
As I get into NC fairly often I've had the same question (not an issue here in FL.) I believe it is probably a gray area if you are in the store, but not using the bank facilities and would be very surprised if you were not in violation when you made the bank transaction...

NC firearms law does not distinguish multi-use from single use financial institutions. It's clear you can't go into a bank. The real question is are you in a "financial institution" while standing in the bakery dept of Ingles, or BI-LO or Wal-Mart or whatever... I think it's pretty clear you are in a financial institution when you're handing the teller your deposit slip...

I'd like to think that if the AG chose to prosecute that a decent defense attorney could get you off, but what do I know?

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I am well versed on Texas CCW law but not-so much for NC. Your Instructor who did the required training with you for your CCW should be able to answer that.
I am the same way. I have two banks that I frequent and both have simple signs posted at the door stating no firearms allowed. As you know Texas requires specific wording for the restriction to be valid.

I am not going to be the first one to inform the bank of this fact, nor would I bank there if they did properly post the required sign.

I think that it all boils down to the judgement that the police officer that takes the complaint has. If you coneal the weapon like it should be no one should ever know that you have it, but if you do get caught, it could mean a very expensive lesson to pay for.
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concealed means concealed.
A HUGE +1

If it is concealed, then who besides you knows you are carrying?
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I say carry it. Ifin its concealed, how will they know? an' since the store it is allowed in it'd be stupid to be able to carry in the store then leave to take yur gun off then come back to bank. Only problem might would come ifin ya had to use it, but ifin ya stopped a bank robbery i think they'd over look it. Still ifin all else fails it is better to be tried by 12 than to be carried by 6, believe you me!
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If your weapon is truly concealed, than it wont cause a problem in itself. As someone may have mentioned before, If you are in the bank area and for some small chance need to actually use the weapon, a criminal lawyer may get you out of that charge, but what my biggest fear would be the civil suit that follows. If you shoot someone under conditions that are otherwise justified, the family members of that person would have a big upper hand in the civil court on the fact that "he shot and killed my family member in an area where he was not allowed to have the gun to begin with". Use your judgement as best you can.

14‑415.11. Permit to carry concealed handgun; scope of permit

...(c) A permit does not authorize a person to carry a concealed handgun in the areas prohibited by G.S. 14‑269.2, 14‑269.3, 14‑269.4, and 14‑277.2, in an area prohibited by rule adopted under G.S. 120‑32.1, in any area prohibited by 18 U.S.C. 922 or any other federal law, in a law enforcement or correctional facility, in a building housing only State or federal offices, in an office of the State or federal government that is not located in a building exclusively occupied by the State or federal government, a financial institution, or on...

http://www.iredellsheriff.com/ has a whole section for it under permits
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I went to a large grocery store today which also has a small branch bank located inside. Although located within the framework of the store, the bank is partitioned off with their own space by ropes, counter, etc. The store allows CC but certianly it is forbidden to carry a weapon concealed into the bank, per NC law. I went ahead and did my transaction at the bank with CCW...........In your opinion, or if you actually know the answer....is it OK to do so or was I possibly in violation?.........thanks
Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
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Dittos to both PinkPanther and Dawg69. No one should know or suspect if you are carrying a concealed licensed sidearm.
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I agree on the nobody should know or be able to tell if you are carrying....That was not a concern...the concern, although doubtful it would happen, if a cop were to approach me for any reason, I would have to tell him right away I am carrying a CW.
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Who cares, like others have asid CCW means just that CONCEALED, no one but you should know that you're armed. I carry everywhere I go and have for years and years, those little moronic signs mean zip to me. I carry where I want, if there's someplace that I physically cannot carry, I will not go there...
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If it were me, I wouldn't chance losing my CCP over some technicality. I'd stick it in the car, then do my banking. Same as P.O. errands or picking up the kids at schools.

?Why chance it?
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Why chance IT?

Last time I checked OUR Second Amendment did not end with the work EXCEPT..... and then a list of the "exceptions".

Any law regarding How (open or conceiled) or where you carry any firearm is Bull Crap.

The ONLY way to insist that OUR Second Amendment rights are RESTORED is to challenge IN COURT any trangression by any LEO or law that limits your right (or denies it altogether) and results in your arrest.

What we need to do in our country is to all openly carry in an organized manner of protest.... say the 15th of every month and totally disrespect all the laws that limit the manner in which arms may be carried.... let them arrest us and then fight them in our courts.

As for me I do whatever I want whenever I want and I will not share the details in an open forum.
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Well, tehcnically according to the 5th district court( I'll have to find the link) storing your ccw in your car while on USPS property ( ie Parking lot) is still a violation!!!
IN GA the no gun signs don't mean a thing at all legally in the eyes of the State. However we aren't supposed to carry in a church???? My pastor knows of several people who rountinely carry or at least leave their carry pistols in their vehicles, there has been several times where he has asked one of the armed members to escort deacons to the bank with tithe monies, and once to go and check his daughters house as her alarm company called with an intruder alert! I'll go along with the tired by 12 vs carried by 6!
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Why chance IT?

Last time I checked OUR Second Amendment did not end with the work EXCEPT..... and then a list of the "exceptions".

Any law regarding How (open or conceiled) or where you carry any firearm is Bull Crap.

The ONLY way to insist that OUR Second Amendment rights are RESTORED is to challenge IN COURT any trangression by any LEO or law that limits your right (or denies it altogether) and results in your arrest.

What we need to do in our country is to all openly carry in an organized manner of protest.... say the 15th of every month and totally disrespect all the laws that limit the manner in which arms may be carried.... let them arrest us and then fight them in our courts.

As for me I do whatever I want whenever I want and I will not share the details in an open forum.

Alrighty then. Let me know how that works out. Good luck.
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Can't carry in a bank? That sucks big time! I love Florida.
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this reminds me of the teenage cheerleader movie where they stole money from banks. they entered a supermarket and told people it was a stick up. they asked who are you robbing? the bank or the store?
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