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Old 12-20-2019, 08:50 PM
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So, I have a nicely equipped Mossberg 500; Heat shield, ghost ring sights, butt-stock shell holder, surefire light w/pressure switch. It’s a great home-defender, but I’ve recently decided that a short-barreled AR fills that role better. So, my question is: In which situation does a “combat shotgun” make the most sense? When would you open the safe and choose the shotgun over an “entry rifle AR”, large caliber rifle, or hand gun?
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Old 12-20-2019, 09:08 PM
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When my 28 inch Ithaca is stolen and I need to go bird hunting.
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When you’re barricaded into a back room and got nowhere to go. We have a couple, but they see limited action. Repelling boarders would be about the best use.
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i would never pick a shotgun over a rifle or handgun, and i would only pick the handgun over the rifle if i needed something to conceal, or could only shoot with one hand... i have an 870, does that count as a "combat shotgun"? if not, then i dont even have one to grab :P
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Old 12-20-2019, 11:12 PM
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Agree, close quarters a viable choice. Hear someone breaking in, terminate the problem. I could see picking an AR15 in the same circumstance. Head out of the house, and the rifle starts to look better as the range increases. Hand guns can be deployed quickly or as a back-up. But, I like shotguns, and there is no coming back from a hit at close range even to an extremity. The terminal effect is fearsome.
I have a FN SLP and a couple tricked-out 930s and some 500/590s.
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A load of buck is gonna dump 1.25 oz of claymore into each target each trigger pull. Going to make a real mess...

9 or more 30 caliber pellets and 1.25 oz. each trigger pull. That's 9 possible hits faster than any possible splits... each trigger pull.

My battle rifles are for medium, long range or precision shots... or against big numbers.

But the 12 gauge is for the unwise hooded goblins picking the wrong target.

At close HD type range there's probably no better weapon against non armored attackers.

I'm not minimizing the capabilities of an AR, AK, FAL, M1A.... I have loaded examples of all right here.

But the 12 is very formidable.
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situations change.. you may grab the shotgun for one situation, and then that situation changes and it's too late to go back and grab a rifle... the SBR will work just fine at close quarters, but be more versatile, more adaptable when those situations change and maybe you need more range, better accuracy, or more ammo

since nobody can predict the future, i would always grab an SBR over the shotgun
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Old 12-21-2019, 07:23 AM
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So you said the same thing twice.
I think we get it
There is no wrong in this, just opinion
Why not say it a third time ?????
I am waiting for Mr. 7.62 x 51 to weigh-in as that is his mantra and you have yours
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I value being ambidextrous and hand guns.
ever try to shoot around a corner with your off hand using shot gun?
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I'm the opposite. I can't think of a real world situation around my home where I wouldn't rather have a shotgun. Then again, the most important thing to have is a plan. After that it's all about the same.
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You can also skip buckshot off of concrete or gravel and get a huge spread for those crowd moments that might occur. I love 00 buck, but I also stock #4 buck for when more numerous targets decide to get rowdy. Couple of rounds down the driveway could be quite off-putting.

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I value being ambidextrous and hand guns.
ever try to shoot around a corner with your off hand using shot gun?
Yes. What you don't practice off hand shooting with all your defensive firearms?
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So, I have a nicely equipped Mossberg 500; Heat shield, ghost ring sights, butt-stock shell holder, surefire light w/pressure switch. It’s a great home-defender, but I’ve recently decided that a short-barreled AR fills that role better. So, my question is: In which situation does a “combat shotgun” make the most sense? When would you open the safe and choose the shotgun over an “entry rifle AR”, large caliber rifle, or hand gun?
The only time my " combat shotgun" sees the light of day = skeet shooting. Sold off the other shotguns years ago. ( This one is a sentimental favorite or else it would have seen the axe as well.) And yes.....there are much better shotguns for skeet shooting, and I dont give a crap. Fun guns are personal preference...lol.

7.62x39mm " pistol" ( 10.5in bbl) replaced it in all roles pertaining to close quarter security. Everything else ( too include hunting) = a rifle.

It does fill the role much better than a shotgun ( as you have also concluded), and for a whole list of valid reasons .

Edit: Handguns are weapons of convenience and no reason not to have one in addition to that short bbl AK, rifle, or shotgun.



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Old 12-21-2019, 09:58 AM
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I never get tired of platform or caliber debates. I always learn something.
I also always come away with the same conclusion. The best one is the one you've got.

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Exactly.
The trigger puller is what counts.
Use what you've trained with.
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I never get tired of platform or caliber debates. I always learn something.
I also always come away with the same conclusion. The best one is the one you've got.

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I was a very avid shotgunner years ago. Time and first hand experience broke the nostalgia surrounding shotguns as a practical security weapon .

Still have the Benelli 121 M1 semiautomatic combat shotgun in pic below.

Like I said...fun for bustin skeet. Replaced as a security stick with something that serves the role much better.

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I was a very avid shotgunner years ago. Time and first hand experience broke the nostalgia surrounding shotguns as a practical security weapon .

Still have the Benelli 121 M1 semiautomatic combat shotgun in pic below.

Like I said...fun for bustin skeet.

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Cool. You'll get no argument from me. But I will still keep my 870 tactical nearby, along with other options. If that's the one I can get to in the time allotted, that's the one I'll use.

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With Leadcounsel on this, inside static defense from bedroom it's the 12 gauge. Moving around looking for what woke me up at 0 dark thirty, pistol w/light. SHTF, and don't know what's going on day or night, then the AR comes out.
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I value being ambidextrous and hand guns.
ever try to shoot around a corner with your off hand using shot gun?
handguns are my preferred choice.. learning to shoot and manipulate them one handed is good practice too.. you never know when you'll only have one hand.. if you slip on ice, twist your arm, and all you have is a shotgun, good luck
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