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Old 12-12-2019, 09:28 AM
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Hey alls...

Who's on the ground here to let us know how things are going as this progresses?

The civil war we've been worried about may be on the horizon.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...ol-legislation
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I'm here close to "occupied Virginia" in Spotsylvania County. It was good to see the "infection" hasn't quite reached me, but it's close!!!! I would only ask the good representative, "If the law is the law, tell me why sanctuary cities exist, and why is it OK for thee and not for me?".
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I would like to see more, or better yet, all county Sheriff's follow the lead of the Culpeper County Sheriff. That would be a great start with a united front. I haven't heard yet what the positions of my neighboring VA counties are (I'm in WV), but I sure hope they are Constitutional Sheriff's.
Being a former long time VA resident it is sad to see that once fine state slip to the Leftists.

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it will be interesting to see what the grunt guardsman will do if activated to prevent militia training
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Not on the ground in VA but it appears that the communists are backing down saying they are removing confiscation from the bill. In other words they are going to compromise since they are getting a lot of push back. Virginians need to keep up the pressure and make it crystal clear to the gun grabbers that there will be absolutely NO compromising on rights PERIOD
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I wished they would just make that part of Virginia around DC part of DC, even if we had a smaller State....
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From the article: "“I would hope they either resign in good conscience, because they cannot uphold the law which they are sworn to uphold, or they're prosecuted for failure to fulfill their oath,” Democratic Virginia Rep. Gerry Connolly told the Washington Examiner."

Connolly I would hope you either resign in good conscience, because you cannot uphold the constitution which you swore to uphold, or you be tried for treason and failure to fulfill your oath. What Gerry doesn't understand is that these LE officers are fulfilling their oath. Their oath is to uphold the constitution and a refusal to enforce laws which are contrary to the constitution is not a violation of their oath.
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Not on the ground in VA but it appears that the communists are backing down saying they are removing confiscation from the bill. In other words they are going to compromise since they are getting a lot of push back. Virginians need to keep up the pressure and make it crystal clear to the gun grabbers that there will be absolutely NO compromising on rights PERIOD
You’re right. Right now is the precise time for the 2A folks to turn up the pressure and not relent. The lefts compromise really wasn’t, because it still bans future ownership. If they have that large of an objection maybe the law is wrong, ya think? Doesn’t suprise me at all that the left reacts with threats and the boot to the neck. Tyrants..
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You’re right. Right now is the precise time for the 2A folks to turn up the pressure and not relent. The lefts compromise really wasn’t, because it still bans future ownership. If they have that large of an objection maybe the law is wrong, ya think? Doesn’t suprise me at all that the left reacts with threats and the boot to the neck. Tyrants..
They already are reacting with threats. I hope you guys stand up for your rights. If you don't, the cancer will spread even further.
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I suspect that the libs plan is to push legislation as far as possible, then “ compromise “ for a portion of their bill(s). Allow a grandfather clause so that penalties kick in later, then come back next year ( they’ll still have control of both Virginia houses ) , and eliminate some more provisions in the law. Just keep tightening the noose. Hank.
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A disarmed populace fears all government


Begs the question - why does government need us to fear them?
Did they do something B-A-D?
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Good luck with regaining your freedom.

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They voted them in, but may need to shoot their way out.
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Oh well , unleash the kraken and let slip the dogs , Since the State of Virginia knows where American Patriots live one would hope the Patriots in Virginia know where these Communist Traitors disguised has Democratic Socialist live. And give their kind the same treatment given to the Tory army of Colonel Ferguson at Kings Mountain , SC a little while back. JMHO and S/FI!
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I7 will hit the courts and be a bigger thing next Fall. Chances are its combined with the Senate confirmation of Ginsbergs successor after her death this Spring or Summer and the SCOTUS SEGMENT WILL BE DELAYED UNTIL AFTER NEXT JANUARY. We still have a few soft coup attempts to go and the NRA and GOA and many others becoming parties or filing amicus curses with the courts. Various states, pro and con will get involved making GB it a federal matter. Or. It will fizzle.....
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Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war.
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This is a STUPID play by the governor and incoming "elected" officials. Especially using the words "constitutional" when talking about bringing in the National Guard to enforce the laws that aren't constitutional.

How oblivious do you have to see that this has every possibility to end in the worst way?
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Old 12-13-2019, 04:17 AM
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https://virginiaconservatives.net/re...-ralph-northam

Those in VA should sign this petition.
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This is a STUPID play by the governor and incoming "elected" officials. Especially using the words "constitutional" when talking about bringing in the National Guard to enforce the laws that aren't constitutional.

How oblivious do you have to see that this has every possibility to end in the worst way?
I'm working (thank God, only a couple more months) in the blue-occupied territory. People in NOVA simply don't care, they're very apathetic politically. Like many states I've been in, there's the ruling city(s)/county(s) minority that ignores the majority of the rural state populations; VA is no different.

Someone casually said at work that if it's the law, (referencing the counties designating themselves as 2A sanctuaries), and people don't obey, they should be arrested. I reminded her that the Supreme Court ruled (Dred Scott) slaves and descendants of slaves were property and had no constitutional rights...is that a law that should just be accepted? It was also a major case on the road to the Civil War. I'm afraid the 2A is the mistreated slave that will eventually lead to another conflict over individual and state's rights.

Just because it's voted into law or ruled as law doesn't mean it's morally right, and neither are their attempts to legislatively attack a constitutionally protected, "God-given" right.

The way the federal courts stepped in and broke the district voting boundaries opened the door for the blue flip and I can guarantee you, the Demorats will do the same gerrymandering to retain their seats and power. I'm afraid VA is lost and those in very rural, conservative, gun-loving counties far from the cesspool suburbs of DC will suffer greatly. Once the Democrat-Socialist run cities control the state, it's a downhill slide and that cancer is practically unstoppable.

VA will be like CA. It will have pockets of power and money, but the people will be taxed, overburdened, lose their 2A rights, get their conservative values trashed and they want to move but likely are stuck. Those who are part of the swamp and get sick of the taxes and burdens they supported will relocate to surrounding states supporting the same socialist bureaucrats and the cancer will spread.

The sheer stupidity of the socialist politicians is what will eventually lead to a flashpoint. Thomas Jefferson was unfortunately a visionary when he said "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants", and we are seeing tyrants in the form of Democrats in power.

Sorry, VA. Just don't bring your cancer down to the real South...we have our own cancer to fight.

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I suspect that the libs plan is to push legislation as far as possible, then “ compromise “ for a portion of their bill(s). Allow a grandfather clause so that penalties kick in later, then come back next year ( they’ll still have control of both Virginia houses ) , and eliminate some more provisions in the law. Just keep tightening the noose. Hank.
That’s what they always do. It’s really time to say emphatically NO..
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