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those quotes could easily have been used with 'chinese', 'italian', or 'irish' in front of the word immigrant to make it sound like the quote was from the last century
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I'm just saying that I want to make sure this argument is based SOLELY on border security and NAFTA/population concerns. I don't want things to start to sound like they could fall under racial tones. Its an easy ditch to stumble into. And strengthens the resolve and drawing power of brown supremacy groups like La Raza and Azlan
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it is interesting to me how white people that stand up against illegal immigration from mexico are called racists, yet they arent called racist by the predominantly white countries immigrants. just another hitch the illegals can use against the system.
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especially when you see the racism that exists between Mexicos lighter northern people and darker southern people. the Norteno vs Saureno fight ain't just gangs
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especially when you see the racism that exists between Mexicos lighter northern people and darker southern people. the Norteno vs Saureno fight ain't just gangs
It's "Norteño" vs. "Sureño". :D
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I think he means 'Flotsam'. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flotsam)
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i see . . .
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This description of an open border sounds an awful lot like having no borders. It also leaves people that have roots and ties to a specific place (home owners, families) vulnerable to mass hordes of cheap uneducated labor. This is similar to having gypsies roam from place to place, staying and working a job cheaply just long enough to cause long lasting financial hardship to the established locals then leaving for the next town. Your "open borders" invites a plauge of locusts.

As a side note to an eairlier comment, living conditions that have 5 families with small children living in a 1-2 bedroom apartment is also illegal for health reasons that I'm not going to get into.
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Mexinol Anyone?
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http://www.theobjectivestandard.com/...ual-rights.asp

Here is an excellent article on the subject.
By excellent you mean 'stupid' right?

Seriously, it made me want to pour chlorine in my eyes.

Apologize for the immoral immigration laws? Exempt immigrants from taxes? WTH?

It's a two way street, you want to receive health care and handouts, you better pay taxes when you can. Immoral laws? I can come up with a hundred other laws that will need looking into before that's even considered.

No disrespect to you FM, as I know that's not your article (AFAIK). But it made me sick.

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they steal our society out jobs they pay no tax there just to lazy they screw up society and no one likes them
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they steal our society out jobs they pay no tax there just to lazy they screw up society and no one likes them
Probably the best and simpliest answer on here.
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Thats the nature of the american economic system though: competition. If someone is willing to do the job for less, he should have every right to do it. If you will only work for 12$ but i will do it for 10$ should I be deported too?
BZZZZZZZZZ! I'm sorry, that is incorrect.

The correct answer is: Only if you are an American citizen.

Nice try, though, comrade.

And, yes, if you are in the United States illegally you should be deported.

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Immigration is not illegal nor should it be. Illegal immigrants are illegal. Big difference. There might be a symantics confusion here.
There's no semantics confusion.
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