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Old 01-16-2020, 07:51 AM
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...That means someone needs to be arrested first before they have standing to bring suit.
Well, That should be easy.. Just show up demonstrating yer inalienable RTKBA, done! No need for a single shot to be fired.. ....Yet..

..Wish I could be there, just too much goin on, here.. Be there in Spirit.. and (non-NRA) donations..

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Regarding bad optics....

The protest as it is wouldn't be my choice, but it's great to see people getting off their ass and taking a stand.

At this point on this issue, most of America is entrenched in their perspective. It's hard to move the goal posts. It's about time for kick off and the game playing out. It won't be fast or immediate. At first it will happen one Ruby Ridge at a time which will slowly become one Bundy Ranch at a time.

People whose reality is based on television is a shrinking bubble of elderly. The network news is thus far ignoring or giving negative press, but the world wide web is buzzing like a hornets nest that got knocked out of tree. Who is on Northam's side? Dried up frigid empty nest soccer moms with no life. His career is done when his term is over.

With our current extreme polarization, no one likes or trusts government beyond their pet politicians. Anything bad that happens will be swooped up by conspiracy theory and blamed on government, even if it isn't staged.

Police have a hard enough time maintaining support even when they're doing right. This isn't a Bernie Sanders rally, it's a group that constitutes a large part of their support base. If they arrest let alone shoot at any protestors, they become hated on all sides. VA state police is hiring. Any takers? Seems they're having a hard time filling uniforms now and it's about to get worse. Sheriffs are going the other direction and siding with the people. Rural red America has started making their own rules. Balkanization is the future and the blue tumors can't feed themselves.
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Regarding bad optics.... .
Here's an idea: (...and, look past the 'superficially stupid idea' aspect - hear me out, ya'll.. Someone with the Bux to do-so (ie: a 'non-Evil Conservative Soros-equivalent'..) should buy like 5,000 'air soft' ARs, and pass them out Freely to those who show.. Who should, then, Proudly sling them as they peacefully march, surrounding the Gov complex...

'..Good way to get shot, dumbass!' you say.. Well - maybe.. but a) It Forces the traitors in that Gov to 'show their hand'.... and we could only HOPE they'd be so stupid / brazen, while leveraging THIER MSM's OWN BROADCAST to strip their hypocrisy nekkid to the World.. (...kinda like 'Build the Wall, make Mejico pay for it'.. Get my point?

..and b) STILL 'makes the statement' - while - 'complying' with thier BS 'ban'.. Hey - they're NOT "Firearms", so no actual 'charges' can actually be brought, amirite?

...'Risky'? Sure. (I'd STILL CC, just more clandestinely than slinging an AR, etc..) But, the value of 'Forcing them' to show thier LIES and Commie-sellout souls.. could be Priceless...

PS - Make Sure to nix those stupid 'blaze-orange tips', and load them up with Obnoxious optics / lasers / lights / tripods / extended-mags.... and Bumpstocks.. And, LET all the LEAs (VSP / Local PD, NG, etc..) KNOW, this is what you're doing, so IF anyone actually gets shot.. they'll have Little 'excuse'...

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Flames look good on video coverage and send a more serious message.
A few tire fires maybe?
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Default VA governor declares state of emergency, Jan 15, 2020

Virginia governor declares state of emergency following militia threats over gun reforms. His fear-based trail of urine marks where fences will go.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/virginia-g...ry?id=68299433

The VA gov's press releases: https://www.governor.virginia.gov/ne...news-releases/
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Unfortunately, nobody can bring suit until the law affects them. That means someone needs to be arrested first before they have standing to bring suit.
No need for filing suit(s), he violated state law (and one he actually voted for no less) he needs to be arrested and charged same as any of us would be for knowingly violating a state law.
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These Socialists are setting up a prime time false flag opportunity. It isn't a stretch to see ANTIFA (masquerading as Virginia Militia) show up with AR's and attempt to start shooting these Socialist Law-makers, Law Enforcement and all the 2nd Amendment folks present.

Can you imagine the carnage in an area that the Governor has declared a "gun free zone"?


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Will some law enforcement officer, with appropriate jurisdiction, please arrest this criminal? Besides breaking the law, he presents an eminent threat to the safety and well being of the law abiding citizens of the state of Virginia exercising their rights as recognized by the US Constitution.
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Organizers have warned to not bring kids to this. They have also warned against long arms, body armor, tactical gear, etc.

Would not be surprised to see a false flag happen. It will start a chain of events that will lead to an uprising.
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Organizers have warned to not bring kids to this. They have also warned against long arms, body armor, tactical gear, etc.

Would not be surprised to see a false flag happen. It will start a chain of events that will lead to an uprising.


Can't you just see that ass hat, Bernie campaign organizer that Project Veritas 'out'ed'..... Showing up to make "everything burn"?



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I'd surely prefer they go the route of recalling the governor and legislators that voted for this type of laws first as you're right, it's primed for a false flag type event.
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Can't you just see that ass hat, Bernie campaign organizer that Project Veritas 'out'ed'..... Showing up to make "everything burn"?



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And .Gov will use every available resource, like the criminal liberal media, to hide the original cause of the turmoil. Heads on a swivel down there people, what you see there is our only chance for the truth!
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Simply move the protest to every highway and street surrounding the fences. Shut the city down completely.

Don't show up and gun owners will matter even less than they do now. Because it will show those in the legislature standing up for their rights inside the building that they won't be there to back them up because they're too afraid.

Everyone saying don't go because something bad may happen are contributing to the same decline we've been watching for decades. Instead of avoiding Richmond, every time the Governor does something twice as many gun owners should go. That way there is no place in the entire city that isn't full of gun owners. Leave the square empty, pack the city. Fill the parking lots of every news agency in town.
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Will some law enforcement officer, with appropriate jurisdiction, please arrest this criminal? Besides breaking the law, he presents an eminent threat to the safety and well being of the law abiding citizens of the state of Virginia exercising their rights as recognized by the US Constitution.
With enough money for bribes, Bloomberg could make sure that nobody having any official capacity to influence this will act in accordance with the law.

This is what happens once the morality of society has completely failed.
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Simply move the protest to every highway and street surrounding the fences. Shut the city down completely.

Don't show up and gun owners will matter even less than they do now. Because it will show those in the legislature standing up for their rights inside the building that they won't be there to back them up because they're too afraid.

Everyone saying don't go because something bad may happen are contributing to the same decline we've been watching for decades. Instead of avoiding Richmond, every time the Governor does something twice as many gun owners should go. That way there is no place in the entire city that isn't full of gun owners. Leave the square empty, pack the city. Fill the parking lots of every news agency in town.

The problem with this is only Antifa type losers have no lives and can just drop everything and travel there to protest. We certainly can't ( other side of the State, farm to take care of). Plus there is this, if you send them emails or call them, they will know who you are, and you are going on a list. I don't want to be on that list.

This is a horrible no win situation. But, EVERY gun owner in Virginia, absolute MUST vote next time. Get rid of these *******s!
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Somewhere on the net or TV I saw a presentation on the 2020 election forecast over the last few days and after the solid red and blue states were separated out, they came to Virginia. They stated that Virginia, thought to be leaning blue, had moved to the toss up status because of "current conflict" and that it could very well flip back to the "red" classification.

Another thing. Where are our constitutional legal teams? All we are hearing about is protests. We know this law cant pass muster because AR-15 are legal all over the place , therefore cannot be federally illegal in a particular state, much less confiscated.
Exactly my question ! Where is the organization overall. Things need to be coordinated and the legal avenues exhausted while at the same time PR teams are blasting this out to the entire Nation and World for that matter. In the meantime the militias can start coordinating which will really un nerve the other side.
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Can't you just see that ass hat, Bernie campaign organizer that Project Veritas 'out'ed'..... Showing up to make "everything burn"?



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Yes, and that is the primary concern.
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I would have thought Lead Council would have been all over this one, with his support for the 2nd amendment and being an Atty and all.

Likely not the state where he practices law, but still.
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I keep telling people they need "Capable Arms" and some yayhoo will staunchly defend the lowly 22 caliber rifle as being capable enough. Folks, they are rolling out the big guns, and we've been hobbled. 10% need to show up with 50 cal's (with appropriate ammo) , or don't bother showing up at all.

They are going to outlaw any weaponry that will be effective.


https://www.nbc12.com/story/25583256...ary-equipment/



If you didn't know, that vehicle is 100% impervious to 223. 100%

Citizens are going to be "protected and served" alright. Served with grenade launchers, 3.2 billion rounds of 223, a fleet of MRAP's, helicopters, etc. Folks, you are being forcibly disarmed.

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Let me get this straight:

Government implements huge numbers of unconstitutional "anti 2nd amdt" laws turning the law abiding into felons overnight.
Citizens are rightly becoming annoyed.
Then the government declares an emergency? Is that right?

(you can't make this stuff up)

(insert bad word here)

Tell me again WHO created the "emergency" out of thin air ?????


Sorry folks, there ain't no fixin' this.
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