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Apparently the shooter shot himself. Also, from his position he was over 1000 feet away from the people at the event.
300m is not that far to shoot esp when you have a target tats prolly 200m sqare
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The news is now reporting a different name for the shooter.

http://www.facebook.com/geary.danley

Earlier, it was Geary Danley. I just heard the shooter reported as Stephen Paddock, 64, of Mesquite, Nevada.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/las-veg...resort-casino/

http://heavy.com/news/2017/10/stephe...photo-mugshot/

The new guy does have a criminal past. If he had a felony conviction, that gives him an 85% chance for being a Democrat.

The first thing I heard on the news this morning was talking about coordinated attacks at multiple locations with multiple shooters. That appears to have been fake news. However, that is a common theme with almost every one of these mass shootings. The witnesses report multiple gunmen, but the official report only identifies one. Most often, the lone gunman is killed.

At Sandy Hook there were three gunmen reported. One was killed (Adam Lanza), one was taken out alive in handcuffs (we never heard anything more about this), and one was seen in the nearby woods with a rifle.

Several victims of the Colorado movie theater shooting reported two shooters, but only one (James Holmes) was arrested.

The witnesses at the Sikh Temple shooting near Milwaukee in 2012 initially reported multiple gunmen, but only one was killed.
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So will the MSM label the shooter as a "left wing radical" or "alt left"? Let us just see the media spin this one.
Never happen. It'll be more like "a poor broken man that was swayed my immoral conservative values."
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The MSM needs to figure out that murder is illegal.....
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That doesn't sound like full auto to me. Sounds more lile a binary trigger or bump fire stock
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The news is now reporting a different name for the shooter.

http://www.facebook.com/geary.danley

Earlier, it was Geary Danley. I just heard the shooter reported as Stephen Paddock, 64, of Mesquite, Nevada.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/las-veg...resort-casino/

The new guy does have a criminal past. If he had a felony conviction, that gives him an 85% chance for being a Democrat.
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Two law enforcement sources told CBS News senior investigative producer Pat Milton that at this point, it doesn't appear the shooting was an act of terrorism. The suspect was known to police in Mesquite and had a criminal history, the sources said.
If that is the case, he had weapons illegally... But I'm sure new laws will prevent that in the future...
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That doesn't sound like full auto to me. Sounds more lile a binary trigger or bump fire stock
I honestly don't know how you could discern between the 2?
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Here's an interesting tid bit. Anyone else hearing this?

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/236219

Says he was a recent convert to Islam?
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On the latest police update they say over 50 dead and ovèr 400 injured.
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Update of over 50+ killed and 400 injured
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I honestly don't know how you could discern between the 2?
I am a retired Infantry senior NCO and a retired Police Chief. With an M16, it is very hard to hear individual shots, like a brrrtt sound. An AK47 sounds like clackityclackity clack sound.

These shots are poppoppoppoppop very rapid but inividual shots can be heard. Military Arms Channel has examples of full auto, binary trigger and bumpfire
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Here's an interesting tid bit. Anyone else hearing this?

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/236219

Says he was a recent convert to Islam?
If that turns out to be true the MSM will blame some sort of mental instability, access to guns and gloss right over the conversion.
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This is a sad situation, but all gun owners will feel the heat for this.
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I honestly don't know how you could discern between the 2?
every weapon has a specific sound signature/ pattern
if your around a lot of shooting you can listen and tell what is being shot and generally how far away
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I am a retired Infantry senior NCO and a retired Police Chief. With an M16, it is very hard to hear individual shots, like a brrrtt sound. An AK47 sounds like clackityclackity clack sound.

These shots are poppoppoppoppop very rapid but inividual shots can be heard. Military Atrms Channel has examples of full auto, binary trigger and bumpfire
I thought the most interesting give away was a few parts where the rate o fire slowed way down then sped back up
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At least 50 dead and over 400 wounded in worst shooting in American History. The shooter fired from their room window in Mandalay Bay into the Route 91 Harvest Festival. Hundreds of rounds were fired at a very rapid rate. The shooter committed suicide as Police breached his room.

Please say a prayer for the wounded and the families of those killed.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/02...-massacre.html

Personal Note: My significant other was in town with family. Thankfully she turned in early last night. A close friend of hers was attending the event, but wasn't hit.
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every weapon has a specific sound signature/ pattern
if your around a lot of shooting you can listen and tell what is being shot and generally how far away


I thought the most interesting give away was a few parts where the rate o fire slowed way down then sped back up
That's what caught my attention also
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Sheriff just said the shooter had been in the room since the 28th.

10 rifles.


I will be interesting what these rifles end up being, but I also agree that it sounds like a bump stock to me.
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If that turns out to be true the MSM will blame some sort of mental instability, access to guns and gloss right over the conversion.
Work p[lace violence... for a retired guy.
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Sheriff just said the shooter had been in the room since the 28th.

10 rifles.


I will be interesting what these rifles end up being, but I also agree that it sounds like a bump stock to me.
Probably two shooting positions with 2 different type rifles. Hence the difference in sound and quantity of rounds fired each time
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Eric Paddock, his brother, told The Daily Mail that there was "absolutely no indication he could do something like this.

"He has no political affiliation, no religious affiliation, as far as we know," Eric Paddock said. "Our condolences go to the victims and all their families."
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