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Ok guys here we are, after the fact, whether it be hurricane, earth quake, nuke strike on washington, what ever it might be.

You have some of your family or friends staying with you because you have a generator and a big wood burning bar-b-q pit. You are the only person in the whole neighborhood with fresh meat and a way to cook it. NOW, how do you keep it??

This is what I did after Hurricane Rita passed through my area

Have a couple of people stay up late at night. Have an outdoor fireplace in the front yard. The members that stay up late can have a nice camp fire right there in the front yard. If the power is off, everything will be dark, except your yard. Looters are criminals, and most of them do not want to go where they can be seen - kinda like roaches.

Have the blinds to your house open so people driving around will see you up and moving about.

Spread your cars and trucks out, park what ever spare vechiles you have in your neighbors driveway.

Do not cook inside, use your coleman stoves or bar-b-q pit in the front yard where people can see you. Make it look like you are having a party and having a good time - which you should be.

Be seen with a rifle or shotgun in hand or slung over your shoulder. Long arms are easier to see then pistols. It would be quit a sight for a looter to see you with an AR-15 over your shoulder, while standing at your grill cooking some steaks.
Sounds much more pleasant than piling dead ones up in the yard.
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I went to Alabama after the tornados to help do clean up and we saw several people with spray painted signs that said WE ARE HOME AND LOOTERS WILL BE SHOT!! It seemed to work. We helped a family do some clean up that had a bunch of donned trees and they said that someone had came in and stole the neighbors ac units.
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Hang a couple of dead looters on a pole in front of your house. Make sure to include the "Looters" cardboard sign hanging around their necks.
explain that to the police as they come to arrest you........
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explain that to the police as they come to arrest you........
Add them to the pile? I only kid.

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i dont know if i would want to do that now days the biggest looters of all are the police they see you with a weapon they are lible to take it from you (katrina) i think times have changed the gov. takes any reason they can to disarm us.
Simple there goes that one ok get the shovel time to dig up the spare
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How about a store manikin hung on a pole, or a Halloween mask hung on a pole??
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The quarantine idea is a good one for short term things like hurricanes, and you could probably avoid legal issues if you don't specifically claim to be a government entity. Say "This area has been quarantined until further notice. Level three protective equipment required beyond this point." See? I didn't say I was the health department.... Putting a phone number or BS email address for questions/comments/and concerns looks a bit more legit too.

Also try other dangers than quarantine. If an earthquake or major storm has just passed through then "unofficial" warning signs about downed power lines, spilled chemicals, dangerous animals etc might be as believable as a CDC sign.

"WARNING During the recent storm our pet African Wild Cats escaped from their enclosure, please be very careful in this area and be ware THEY HUNT AFTER DARK".

"DANGER this home is contaminated with RADIATION. medical treatment equipment was damaged in the earthquake, STAY BACK 200 YARDS. Seek immediate medical treatment if rash or fever develops."

Might work if you're just putting up a sign as a last ditch attempt to keep people out of an unoccupied building.

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I see that a lot of folks are still thinking they're going to be dealing with 'Lord Humongus and a band of gay beserkers.
Yes, there will be a few at first, but mostly it's going to be hungry children... lots of them, all hungry, all of them looking to you to share your "MRE's".
Ask any front line trooper that went in Iraq.
The REMF's will have little knowledge, but the 'Tip of the Spear' guys and guys will tell the same story or troops saw when liberating Europe during WW2.
I'm certain Hannibal and his elephant troops saw the same thing eons ago, thus location is everything.
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I see that a lot of folks are still thinking they're going to be dealing with 'Lord Humongus and a band of gay beserkers.
Yes, there will be a few at first, but mostly it's going to be hungry children... lots of them, all hungry, all of them looking to you to share your "MRE's".
Ask any front line trooper that went in Iraq.
The REMF's will have little knowledge, but the 'Tip of the Spear' guys and guys will tell the same story or troops saw when liberating Europe during WW2.
I'm certain Hannibal and his elephant troops saw the same thing eons ago, thus location is everything.
Okay....duly noted......and thank you for your service!

But.....do you have some actionable advice for us? I apologize if I missed it.
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Lots of people help. More eyes and ears the better. I was in a house with I other folks during katrina. Not a single looter.

Most looters are not thugs but hungry opportunists who do not want a confrontation.

I had a few friends and family members who looted unattended stores or overturned trucks for food.
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Severed head on the fence post can make all but the hardest or most desperate **** bag think twice.

never can figure why people think a WROL, due to serious SHTF, will last forever and there won't be consequences for their activity ....

when that military relief pulls into the area .... and that black CA National Guard unit spots your dozen severed heads, of their black brothers spiked on your fence ....

guess who else isn't going to live thru the SHTF ....
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never can figure why people think a WROL, due to serious SHTF, will last forever and there won't be consequences for their activity ....

when that military relief pulls into the area .... and that black CA National Guard unit spots your dozen severed heads, of their black brothers spiked on your fence ....

guess who else isn't going to live thru the SHTF ....
PC Incorrect...That`d be Racist.
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If you don't have the luxury of turning your home into an armed encampment, simply make your house look like it's already been looted. Break a few windows. Throw a few items out into the front yard. Make it look like your house has already been ransacked of anything valuable.
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Having the time to prepare, and a home property to protect, this could help.
Plant thorn hedges along your property, layered with fences and in a rural community left to grow wild intertwined
Wild rose bushes are excellent, use vegetation that would impede most from entering.
You can then concentrate on protecting your immediate yard, harden a watch post so the guard does not become a visible target. Think castle/keep be imaginative.
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I went to Alabama after the tornados to help do clean up and we saw several people with spray painted signs that said WE ARE HOME AND LOOTERS WILL BE SHOT!! It seemed to work.
Same in Gulfport and Biloxi Ms.....lol


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If you don't have the luxury of turning your home into an armed encampment, simply make your house look like it's already been looted. Break a few windows. Throw a few items out into the front yard. Make it look like your house has already been ransacked of anything valuable.
Good post! Maybe some black spray paint above the windows and onto the soffit,give it that burned out look.
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(1) You don't want to shoot anyone if you don't have to, but if you do, take the WROL part of WROL as seriously as you can and get rid of the body. Bury it in the backyard of somebody else's house (who isn't there) or toss it a few neighborhoods over.

(2) A sign that says that looters will be shot is not enough. Make sure you sign communicates that your community is together and doing well. You are not only discouraging looters - you are encouraging government "help" to start somewhere else as you don't have immediate or critical needs.

(3) Make sure you block the enterences/exits. This means any threat to you is a threat on foot. It also means that if the government shows up you have time to put away the AR15s and pull out the Chinese M53s that you don't mind losing (and don't make them so nervous/trigger happy).

(4) Don't leave anything of value in the open. Things left in the open will tend to walk away from people in your own community, much less looters.

(5) Keep an ear to the radio. It will normally keep you abreast of where and what the government is up to. That will greatly inform you as to how far off and away the end of WROL is, which informs you as to how cavalier you can act. If law and order are a few days away, you are better off filming creepers while you put a few rounds in the air. If it will be weeks, you might be better off making sure those creeping problems are removed.
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Don't think of it as having them pass you by, but rather, as leading them just a bit...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aqz3zTpYIKk
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How about a store manikin hung on a pole, or a Halloween mask hung on a pole??
apparently as long as the hanging manny looks like Sara Palin it's perfectly legal ..pretty sad that this was allowed during the elections.

anyway... when we had our last hurricane i put my old lionel trains up in the living room and taped cardboard figures to them so from the front road it looked like we were having a coctail party.....saw this in a documentary one time about a kid being home alone and it worked great to scare off the bad guys...true story..honest !
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Looters, how to make them pass you by?

Depending on the circumstances:

In times of law & order, call the police.

In times of temporary lapses in the rule of law, hire a standing armed security force (licensed armed security officers for the civilized world/standing mercenary force for the third world).

In times of WROL (where law and order isn't coming back anytime soon), the best way to prevent looters/gangs/bands of rebels etc. (depending on which part of the world you live in) from looting your stuff is to remain undetected. Failing that, sustained volumes of fire, inflicting heavy casualties upon your aggressors works second best.

But over all, I'd favor being out of sight, out of mind and undetected by those that intend ill towards you.
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