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Old 01-05-2020, 08:43 AM
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I don't see many reviews on these - any suggestions? Brands and designs? Can you leave a drum fully loaded indefinitely? Do they need lubrication?
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I don't see many reviews on these
I'll give you a hint. If you don't see a fair number of people who have a lot of real world experience in a given subject using a particular product, it's usually because either (a.) the product hasn't been available for very long and is therefore an unknown, or (b.) the product doesn't work very well. Drum mags have been available for quite a long time so........
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They are also very heavy when loaded and very expensive.
I could see their usefulness in a designated overwatch role.
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try duckduck go. It's not really any harder to type in a search than it is to start a thread for every question. There are TONS of reviews on drums for both guns.
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...I could see their usefulness in a designated overwatch role.
Yup, that’s about it, in my thinking.

Could have usefulness in a static suppressive type role, but now that bump stocks are banned, far less so.

OP, skip them.

Become familiar with whatever platform you chose, using standard capacity magazines that platform uses. Figure how many standard capacity magazines you can purchase for the equivalent of a single drum in that platform.

For AR15’s it’s 10 plus standard, as an example. Far far more versatile.

Now, if someone wants to buy drums, for whatever reason, have at it. Absolutely!

As to lubrication, the ones we own use graphite lube. Came with them. Dual drum type.

Supposedly there are ones out now that don’t require the dry lube.
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try duckduck go. It's not really any harder to type in a search than it is to start a thread for every question. There are TONS of reviews on drums for both guns.
Thanks. Yes, i did use duckduck go and watched an hour or so of yt videos. I have not found any yet that review the product after it being used for several thousand rounds, which would speak to its durability. That;s when I come here, to find the voices of experience. I appreciate all of your feedback.
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Yes, i did use duckduck go and watched an hour or so of yt videos.
You'd have been better off using that hour to practice reloads with standard capacity magazines that are likely to be reliable.
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These are reliable in my experience:

http://www.betaco.com/mobile_cmag_pr...ries&weapon=76

They include the graphite lube for a reason.

Everything said above is still noted, however, sometimes you just want to watch your barrel smoke.

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I have a pair of Chinese 75rd windup steel AK47 drums. You can leave them fully loaded under no spring tension.

They work reliably and are fun to bring out at the end of the day when you have a new shooter and let them blast away.

Useful? Maybe from a vehicle or static position. I'd drop them if I needed to run somewhere.

They are noisy and heavy!!!

Fun though.
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I have a pair of Chinese 75rd windup steel AK47 drums. You can leave them fully loaded under no spring tension.

They work reliably and are fun to bring out at the end of the day when you have a new shooter and let them blast away.

Useful? Maybe from a vehicle or static position. I'd drop them if I needed to run somewhere.

They are noisy and heavy!!!

Fun though.
I would empty them at the reason I had to run from before dropping them.
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Thank you for your input. Given the magnitude of sheeple's stupidity and the unstable state of global affairs I have begun to rethink what protection might look like, how many people might be involved and for what length of time. I think it is time to up the ante. That is the reason I posted this question.
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I don't see many reviews on these - any suggestions? Brands and designs? Can you leave a drum fully loaded indefinitely? Do they need lubrication?
The only drum I recommend is the Romanian 75rd, the design is based off of the chinese AK drums (which were banned from importation in the 90's) there are several youtube videos showing how to load, wind and release the spring tension

https://www.primaryarms.com/century-...zine-7-62x39mm

I bit more expensive than when I bought them
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Thank you for your input. Given the magnitude of sheeple's stupidity and the unstable state of global affairs I have begun to rethink what protection might look like, how many people might be involved and for what length of time. I think it is time to up the ante. That is the reason I posted this question.
Well, Iíll circle back to how many standard capacity magazines you can purchase vs a single drum. Any platform.

The standard capacity magazines offer far more flexibility & value.

In particular, learn how to run your gun(s) in whatever platform(s) you chose. And run them well, before getting into really oddball scenarios.

The same exact correlation to why scenario preparation is a bad idea applies here.
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As much as AR mags ought to be completely interchangeable, the fact is that there is just enough "wiggle room" (or lack thereof) to cause issues, and higher-capacity mags and/or drums just introduce more variables. Some folks swear by the Surefire and new ATI mags, but others report various issues. I've found the Magpul 40-round mags to work well, so that's about the highest I'm compelled to go unless price and reliability are no object.
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Drum mags are for suppressing fire in war. They are fun to shoot . Unless you are fighting banzai charges you probably wont need them. I own 4 just because.
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Drum mags are for suppressing fire in war. They are fun to shoot . Unless you are fighting banzai charges you probably wont need them. I own 4 just because.
Thanks! I was also thinking that they might be good for bartering sometime in the not so distant future....maybe make a little profit?
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Drum mags are for suppressing fire in war. They are fun to shoot . Unless you are fighting banzai charges you probably wont need them. I own 4 just because.
I have drums and hicap stick mags for everything I own, but I NEVER use them. I try to own every option available for my rifles because should I need to sell them, itís much more attractive to buyers if everything is in one package. As for me, I only shoot 10 rnds mags.
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Thanks! I was also thinking that they might be good for bartering sometime in the not so distant future....maybe make a little profit?
If thatís your thought process, and thereís certainly nothing wrong with that, again think on which may be easier to trade/profit.

1 drum, or 10-15 standard capacity magazines?

2 drums, or 20-30 standard capacity magazines?

Etc.

Again, if someone wants to buy drums (or anything else for that matter), go rite ahead. When asking for justification of such though, be willing to listen to answers.
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I personally don't see a lot of benefit in the drums. Cost vs benefit. They are heavy and in an AK give you 2.5 magazines worth of ammo. AR is so quick for a mag change that its even less beneficial.

The only rifles I'd get a drum would be a X products 50 round drum for an M1a or an AR10. Like mentioned above it would be for continued suppressive/repressive fire. I spent my money on extra mags instead.
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They have an advantage sometimes when you are in a firefight . You rattle a mag after 30 rounds and hope the bad guys were counting . They get up to charge you and you still have 45 in the drum.
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