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Essentially, Applejack.

Just be very cautious. I dont remember exactly, but I think some wine has a high Methanol concentration. For instance, Blackberry wine.
I did some reading on freeze distillation. I guess it is ok for hard cider, but for some other alcoholic beverages, it removes the water, but not only methanol will remain, but other things may concentrate to levels that are not good for you. Steam distillation when done right does a better job of removing impurities then does freezing that mainly removes what freezes, that being the water.
The reason I say it may be ok for hard cider is that I never heard of anyone getting hurt that way. I would someday like to make perry since I have a lot of pears. Pears grow better than most apples will in nwfl. But after these discussions of distillation dangers I think will stay away from such for human consumption, but it may be ok for fuel.
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You want to start collecting just below 80% and quit at 55%. The rest is put in the feints jar to go in the next run. Always discard the first 50ml per gallon. So a 5 gallon wash, you would discard 250ml. That is if I knew anything about it, which I don't.
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You want to start collecting just below 80% and quit at 55%. The rest is put in the feints jar to go in the next run. Always discard the first 50ml per gallon. So a 5 gallon wash, you would discard 250ml. That is if I knew anything about it, which I don't.
How can you tell where the percentage is at? I forget what the thing is called that measures the ABV. But I suppose it's different than beer and wine making ones.
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How can you tell where the percentage is at? I forget what the thing is called that measures the ABV. But I suppose it's different than beer and wine making ones.
Alcoholometer. measures from water to 200 proof. Are you maybe thinking about the hydrometer that measures specific gravity? Because it is a different one than that. Legal disclaimer: I don't know anything about making untaxed hootch. That would be stealing from the govt and that is wrong.
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I did some reading on freeze distillation. I guess it is ok for hard cider, but for some other alcoholic beverages, it removes the water, but not only methanol will remain, but other things may concentrate to levels that are not good for you. Steam distillation when done right does a better job of removing impurities then does freezing that mainly removes what freezes, that being the water.
The reason I say it may be ok for hard cider is that I never heard of anyone getting hurt that way. I would someday like to make perry since I have a lot of pears. Pears grow better than most apples will in nwfl. But after these discussions of distillation dangers I think will stay away from such for human consumption, but it may be ok for fuel.
I read that Applejack made using the freezing method was George Washington's preferred drink.
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Always discard the first 50ml per gallon. So a 5 gallon wash, you would discard 250ml.
250 ml is a lot. In the video he used a 5 gallon wash and got less than a quart of shine. Which is not much, but if you threw away 250 ml of that, well, it's not going to leave enough to spike a punch bowl.
So something is not adding up but IDK what.

So it see
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Great thread. Love the videos and expertise being shared.
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250 ml is a lot. In the video he used a 5 gallon wash and got less than a quart of shine. Which is not much, but if you threw away 250 ml of that, well, it's not going to leave enough to spike a punch bowl.
So something is not adding up but IDK what.

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Which is exactly the reason why such small batches are not exactly recommended.

Something else to consider. Not all things are perfectly linear. Some recipes will yield a high alcohol content then other recipes. In a good recipe, you want to push the yeast to its limit, but not so much that you kill it. Cause that is possible.

Along with sugar, you want to add some nutrients. Something for the little yeast monster to munch on. Tomato paste is a good choice.
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I read that Applejack made using the freezing method was George Washington's preferred drink.
It was a favored drink for many. The cider apples used were not identical to the eating apples we find in the stores today. Perry is also normally made from pears that are not suitable for eating. I have grafted a couple of trees with a variety of perry pears that is suitable for zone 8b and I will see what happens.

I recently cut way back on drinking wine and my blood pressure dropped to 118/68 so there is also that to consider and this was cheaper commercial wine made in america.
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Moonshine 190 proof and vodka are great for making medical tinctures ...you can also distill waterr and make essential,oils for medical reasons with your still...but I am guessing you just want the boozing info hahaha
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Moonshine 190 proof and vodka are great for making medical tinctures ...you can also distill waterr and make essential,oils for medical reasons with your still...but I am guessing you just want the boozing info hahaha
I am interested in any medical information.
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Interesting thread, thanks to everyone who has contributed.

I don't drink the "hard stuff" but I'm interested in getting into home beer brewing. I got a book on the subject a few years ago but haven't had the time to really look into it.
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I would someday like to make perry since I have a lot of pears. Pears grow better than most apples will in nwfl.
When I made pear wine, I liked it's flavor way better than apple.

I quit drinking a while ago, but I still have the recipe...

Generally, a bag and a half of sugar, 2 or 3 inches of blended fruit pulp and finish filling the 5 gallon bucket to an inch off the top (with clean water)... cover with tight fitting lid, place in unused corner... fruit already has it's own yeasts, and the C02 finds it's own way out of the lid...

Bottle (or drink) after the liquid clarifies... usually 6 or 7 weeks.

Berry wines turn out sweet with not much alcohol, apples make strong alcohol beverage but doesn't taste that great... and peaches made the best tasting wine that I ever drank!

So... when making wine, blending berries with apples generally made a drinkable beverage.

I never tried making brandy... but the winter weather that we are experiencing right now should work fine for freezing anything that wasn't alcohol.... or maybe not in FL...
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Interesting thread, thanks to everyone who has contributed.

I don't drink the "hard stuff" but I'm interested in getting into home beer brewing. I got a book on the subject a few years ago but haven't had the time to really look into it.
About the same here. I could drink 1 beer a year, and thats enough for me. We might open 1 bottle of wine a year. Hell, we didnt even open our usual "1" on New Years Eve.. its still in the fridge.

I just like the knowledge..
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About the same here. I could drink 1 beer a year, and thats enough for me. We might open 1 bottle of wine a year. Hell, we didnt even open our usual "1" on New Years Eve.. its still in the fridge.

I just like the knowledge..
Well, I enjoy a cold brew a little more often than once a year...

But yes, I too would just like to have the knowledge of how to do it.
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I read that Applejack made using the freezing method was George Washington's preferred drink.
If you visit Mt. Vernon, you can buy some of their whiskey from a reconstruction of the still/s (and recipe) George was using.

Available only in person, no online sales: https://www.mountvernon.org/the-esta...-mount-vernon/
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Which is exactly the reason why such small batches are not exactly recommended.

Something else to consider. Not all things are perfectly linear. Some recipes will yield a high alcohol content then other recipes. In a good recipe, you want to push the yeast to its limit, but not so much that you kill it. Cause that is possible.

Along with sugar, you want to add some nutrients. Something for the little yeast monster to munch on. Tomato paste is a good choice.
Once the bubbler nearly stops bubbling, I add a little sugared fresh corn, rye or barley mash to extend the yeasts active life.
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