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Old 09-18-2017, 11:02 PM
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OK, kinda new here. I have looked carefully through this forum for an answer, but not really seeing it.

My situation is I have purchased the 'Long term water storage 55 gal barrel that Costco sells. It is BPA free, food grade, dark color, etc. I am keeping it in a dark room, no light.
My plan is to have a local lab test my water right out of the tap at present, then I will have lab test the water in barrel in prob 6 months. (Compare any differences)

Can someone just give me what is the ratio of bleach to add to 55 gal of water, just to be prudent? I hear all kinds of random amounts, but looking for something solid.

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Unless you're one of those I-believe-nothing-published-by-any-government-agency types, I'd go with the CDC recommendations:

https://www.cdc.gov/healthywater/pdf..._flyer_508.pdf

Here's the same info from Clorox:
https://www.clorox.com/dr-laundry/di...rifying-water/

Just make sure you use fresh bleach--it loses strength over time.
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OK, kinda new here. I have looked carefully through this forum for an answer, but not really seeing it.

My situation is I have purchased the 'Long term water storage 55 gal barrel that Costco sells. It is BPA free, food grade, dark color, etc. I am keeping it in a dark room, no light.
My plan is to have a local lab test my water right out of the tap at present, then I will have lab test the water in barrel in prob 6 months. (Compare any differences)

Can someone just give me what is the ratio of bleach to add to 55 gal of water, just to be prudent? I hear all kinds of random amounts, but looking for something solid.

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Got a link so I can look at the barrel? If it's what I think it is you won't need a second lab test.

Get me that link and I'll fill you in all you need to know.
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Thanks![/quote]

Got a link so I can look at the barrel? If it's what I think it is you won't need a second lab test.

Get me that link and I'll fill you in all you need to know.[/QUOTE]


Trouble finding a direct link, but see if this works.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00PWHZ1DC..._1505799754966
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If that link is awkward... just Google Nutristore 55 gal BPA free water barrel.
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I was talking about the Costco link, but whatever. I just needed to know what kind of barrel and I see you are getting a standard one.

First off, water never goes bad on its own. It can only be contaminated.

As long as you know your tap water is safe right now because you tested it then you just need to sterilize the barrel, fill with safe water, treat it, seal it, and put it in a safe place. It will sit there fine indefinitely until you open it or an outside vector contaminates it.

So let's take this in steps.

1) Verify that your tap water is safe on its own right now with a lab test, or send it through filtration. Lab test will run about $100 and it's good to test your tap water every several years anyway. Or buy something like a Monolithic filter system for $50 to process your tap water and also end up with an emergency filter system for later. Either way gives you something else needed for your money.

2) Sanitize your barrel by taking a cup of bleach and a couple gallons of water sloshing it all around inside, making sure you get all of the inside of the barrel. Rolling it on the lawn is fine to do this. Then drain it and let it air dry in the sun. It may take a couple days to dry, so move it under cover at night so morning dew and dust don't get back in. Make sure the bungs and threads get sanitized too. Buy new bleach for this job.

3) Once dry fill with water where you plan to store it because a full drum is 440 pounds. I'll talk about the right place in a later step.

4) Add 1.4 ounces of bleach to the water in the barrel. That is 8.5 teaspoons or 2.8 tablespoons or 41ml, depending what type of measuring options you have. Then dip the bungs in bowl of bleach and tighten them on the drum. Never let your fingers ever touch the bung threads or drum threads once you dip them and screw them in. Those threads are your biggest outside vector risks when capping this off.

5) Then leave the barrel alone. Don't open it later to look inside or think you need to test it. The water is fine if you did this right and will not change or go bad. The bleach will revert into just salt and water in 6 months but that's good. No more free chlorine risk and the inside is still sanitized.

6) Store the barrel where you get no direct sunlight. Ambient light or indirect sunlight is fine. There can be no storage of aromatic chemicals in the space. No paint, fuels, gardening chemicals, vermin poisons, etc. The plastic is semipermeable to gasses or chemicals that actually touch it. Remember that if you use the basement or garage that you don't use it also for hazardous chemical storage. Remember the weight and be sure the floor can hold it, especially if it is on a floor supported by joists. Don't guess about this. Be doubly sure. Also do not rest it on bare concrete. Efflorescence happens. If in a room with a concrete floor then place the barrel of a square on interior grade unfinished plywood before you fill it.

7) Again, the water is fine if you did all that right, and doesn't need to be rotated. The water will lose free oxygen and will taste flat once you open it for emergency use if you don't aerate it. When you pump it out into smaller containers to carry don't fill them up all the way. First stir or shake the carry container to mix air back into the water. Then it will taste fine.

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Iamzeke,

That was the perfect full scale response!
Thank you so much.
Besides the bleach ratio, I learned some other things as well. Looks like i will be emptying my barrel, and going through those steps soon.
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Why air dry in the sun...the inside is sanitary now, and couldn't outside air be letting a virus or bacteria or even small bug in?
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That was the perfect full scale response!
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Besides the bleach ratio, I learned some other things as well. Looks like i will be emptying my barrel, and going through those steps soon.
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Why air dry in the sun...the inside is sanitary now, and couldn't outside air be letting a virus or bacteria or even small bug in?
The sanitizing mixture has a lot of extra chlorine you do not need to stick around. The amount you add when full takes care of last minute recontamination.
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When I was stationed in Turkey back in the early 70's we had to purify our drinking water by adding 5-6 drops of bleach per gallon. One drop equals 0.05 ml, so five drops is0.25ml. 55 gal x 0.25ml = 13.75ml, or in practical terms 1/2 ounce (15 ml)

Cholera was endemic there and the city water system was old and had leaky joints due to numerous earthquakes and tremors, so we treated all water.
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