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Old 12-03-2019, 03:51 PM
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Old 12-03-2019, 03:54 PM
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I ****ing hate homeless people. I wish someone would do something about it.
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Old 12-03-2019, 04:15 PM
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I'm married to a Marine - pound sand.
LOL, does she know you don't owe her anything


Yes, I am aware that "jojo" claims to be female.
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Old 12-03-2019, 05:02 PM
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How much of say a million dollars goes to feed the bureaucracy and how much actually get to the homeless?
Also consider that if the problem is solved, the money stops. And if the problem becomes more widespread, more money is given.
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Old 12-03-2019, 06:21 PM
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My husband made me read a bunch of psychology books when we got married.

In "Games People Play" they talk about a game, I will help you a lot but you are not allowed to get better, and how a social worker was actually fired because she got people off the dole. That game is commonly played in the social services community.

My Dad used to work with the homeless and one time they got a big grant to go out and count everyone and see who was addicted.

I asked about mental illness - how many had been told they had a mental problem. 'Oh, they didn't pay us to ask" he replied.
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Old 12-03-2019, 06:40 PM
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I spent a few days in Santa Monica a number of years ago. I was walking back to my hotel after dinner one evening as the homeless were beginning to settle into the portico of a Presbyterian Church for the night. As a girl walked in someone called to her saying I haven't seen you for a long time where have you been? She replied that she had been down to San Diego for a while. Makes me wonder.
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I ****ing hate homeless people. I wish someone would do something about it.
This sentiment has played out many times in history. 1930's Germany for example.
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This sentiment has played out many times in history. 1930's Germany for example.
Some solutions are a bit extreme...
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Why not send them to Mexico, it seems only fair.
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Lived right next door to a "soup kitchen". I have worked in a food bank. Build it and they will come is the old saying. I'll save time by not giving stories, but if the food banks, soup kitchens and shelters went away, so would most of the homeless
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We have a wooded lot not far from my home, a lot of squatters live there. It makes me very uncomfortable because it's at my back as I'm waiting on the bus.

I can't own a gun so I bring my stun gun, better than nothing but I will be glad when that lot is sold and cleared.
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Redsmell------ Nobody, is necessarily calling out the homeless...
So, get off, your self righteous high horse.....
So far, the only people I see being called-out.....
Are the politicians, who allow this crap to go on.....
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Myself and most advocates I've worked with would agree that the policies of liberal politicians create situations where those who don't want help are enabled at the expense of everyone else.
Reading comprehension and intelligence are clearly not your strong points Sailor.
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Old 12-04-2019, 12:27 PM
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Drugs should be legal, heroin, cocaine, crack etc. People should be able to make their own choices.
That's all well and good, until they clog up your emergency medical services.

Sorry, we can't get to your grandma's broken hip because we're dealing with several different kinds of overdoses here.
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I cant see how this problem can get any better without forced institutionalization and treatment. I know I am ignorant as to others solutions, but one thing is certain, what is being done now is a failure.
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Having worked in social services for 30+ years, I have no sympathy for the homeless. They are there because they refuse to make the changes in their lives to move forward. I remember the directer of a local drug rehab program who was happy with a 5% success rate. The only way to resolve the issue is to enforce the vagrancy laws and build county work farms. I remember one of the dog hunters spent a year and a day on a farm in Oklahoma. He came out a changed man. He never stole again, although he became a preacher. Time for tough love
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The only way to resolve the issue is to enforce the vagrancy laws and build county work farms.
This is exactly how it began. I am sure GD has good intentions but this scheme has played out before. And it won't just stop with the homeless. Once government gets the job of human reform we are all subject to it.
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RED. NOTHING makes me angrier than the old "they can't help it, they're mentally ill". **** THAT **** IT ALL TO HELL.

TAKE YOUR DAMNED PILLS and work like a normal person. No homeless mentally ill person I have met (and I seem to meet a lot) will TAKE THEIR DAMNED PILLS. "I don't like the way it makes me feel" "It makes me tired" etc.

Well I deal with horrible side effects and taking them 2x a day because THAT'S WHAT IT TAKES TO BE A CITIZEN. I am not going to be a burden on anyone or make my problems everyone else's baggage.

I have SPOKEN to bipolar drunks who flatly told me they refused to take their pills. They didn't want them.

It wasn't an access issue, we have clinics. They didn't want the help.

So why should I ante up for someone who is not being responsible and managing their illness? Because, let me tell you, when you are sick you damned well know it.

If you refuse help THAT IS NOT MY PROBLEM.

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Old 12-04-2019, 01:29 PM
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ONE of the benefits of living in the rural frozen half the year north.. we have no grates for people to sleep on and I guarantee if you try to take a dump in a public place you will be arrested.

When I was a street cop it amazed me the temperatures those folks would endure to stay outside vs going to a shelter On the really bad way below zero nights a wagon would go around "arresting" the ones that could be found just so we wouldn't have to deal with the dead ones in the morning. Nothing turns off the shopping public from a dead frozen bum laying in the doorway of a store at opening time.

The worst thing the liberal did was force through the mental health changes that said so long as a person wasn't a danger to himself or others he was to be released from care facilities. It didn't matter that the person couldn't work or had the IQ of a small appliance bulb. It didn't matter that the person had ZERO support once he was free other than to voluntarily contact all the outside agencies.

I kept hearing "Well this person is fine so long as he takes his medications. Of course you couldn't force them to take them and they rarely took them so a new madness ensued.
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the smart homeless really knew how to game the system.

We had one guy who would go on tilt about every other month or so. He would start walking into houses and stores and stealing right in front of people. He would go through cars or break into them. IF you arrested him the county jail would refuse him because he was "disruptive" and was a mental health issue. Take him to be evaluated and the mental health folks said take him to jail he is fine. NOBODY wanted to deal with him.
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this one week he goes off in my area. I find him take him to jail, NO, take him the MH, NO. Take him about 20 miles out of the city to another jurisdiction and even different county and throw him out of the car and tell him to not come back.
Don't know how he did it but next day he is back at it and I grab him, take him 5 miles out of town and tell him if he screws up on my beat again I will throw him into the river. A couple hours later he is breaking into another house, I get him, take him out to a desolate spot and toss him off a 10 foot high bank into the river. I make sure he crawls out all right. He is spouting and screaming at me. I stop him and say "Look" and point down river. "You screw up on my beat again and I am throwing you off that bridge." A RR bridge that is about 100 feet up in the air.
It was months before he resurfaced in our part of the world. And when he did an officer killed him. He was naked chasing people with what everyone said was a knife in his hand. The officer was trying to not kill the guy when he tripped over a curb, the nut rushed him and he shot the guy twice from the ground at about 3 feet.
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Old 12-04-2019, 01:37 PM
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California has been driving out business which also mean jobs as well for years now.
Though I'm retired I may be moving out as well.
Many of the homeless I know are not druggies or criminals, but working people that can't make enough to afford a home.
the liberals are crushing the state toward socialism best they can.
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4, it is very frustrating for me when people say "Oh, you can't expect anything of them, they're mentally ill."

**** that! I do a lot with brain damage, too, in addition to very severe mental illness.

People need to 1. Accept the diagnosis and 2. Take the medication. Daily. It is really that simple.

I try to live a consistent lifestyle with sleep, etc. no chemicals or alcohol. Just some diet soda. That helps tremendously as well.
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