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Old 11-20-2019, 10:44 PM
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It's interesting how the Republicans asked Vindman why he wore his uniform to the hearing, like there was something wrong with that. They should be ashamed. They never asked Oliver North.

I would be ashamed to be a GOP supporter.
Vindman testified at a "political" hearing.
North testified at a "legal" hearing upon which he was the subject and was convicted. There's a difference.

I for one think it was improper...it gives the impression the DoD endorses Vindman and his OPINION!!
Vindman reminds me of a punk with small-man complex...he was reprimanded in the past for talking smack about the US to Russian military counter-parts during a combined exercise

Officer says LTC Vindman ridiculed USA in front of Russian officers
https://www.centerforsecuritypolicy....sian-officers/
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It's interesting how the Republicans asked Vindman why he wore his uniform to the hearing, like there was something wrong with that. They should be ashamed. They never asked Oliver North.

I would be ashamed to be a GOP supporter.
Vindman is the one who should be ashamed of his conduct. A military officer or police officer should know, respect, and follow the chain of command. The chain of command is sacrosanct and never violated.

However, Vindman deliberately circumvented the chain of command not only regarding his actions in this case. It has come to light that this has occurred a number of times throughout his career and he is considered somewhat of a problem by his superiors.

"...But Vindman was unreliable and had questionable judgment, according to his own outgoing superior, Tim Morrison, the National Security Council’s senior director for European affairs.

In fact, Morrison viewed Vindman as so untrustworthy that he opted to exclude him from his conversations with William Taylor, the senior US diplomat in Ukraine.

Vindman had an “unfortunate habit,” Morrison thought, of defying the sprawling executive branch’s carefully delineated chain of command. Vindman’s testimony vindicates Morrison’s dripping disdain for his former subordinate. ..."

CITE: https://nypost.com/2019/11/19/alexan...ent-testimony/
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I was watching this zoo at lunch today. The libs were all congratulating each other saying how the testimony was rock solid against President Trump. I cant understand how their brain functions. The live in a strange world.
All in all likely the Republic is safer with the demtards are entertaining themselves and their braindead minions (including those posting here) rather than attempting to pass "meaningful" legislative drivel.

I'm pretty sure that Pres Trump is laughing at the twits and this entire clown circus will cost the prog 60+ seats in the house.
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For those who don't think that the Trump administration should has any business investigating corruption in Ukraine and in particular, the Bidens. Also, for those who claim that the Ukrainian prosecutor was not doing his job and that there was pressure from many within our government and internationally to remove him for it (still waiting for that documentation, guys).
Here is a nutshell version of just SOME of the many goings on of the Bidens, the Dems and corruption in Ukraine. Start at 14:50.
https://youtu.be/fAO5WMhTjPQ

There is much, much more. For instance, our ambassador applying pressure to stop corruption investigations and denying Visas for people who wanted to come to the US DOJ with incriminating evidence. Ambassador Yavonovich's requests to monitor journalists investigating Ukranian corruption. DNC operative Alexandra Chalupa. Much activity around the Russian Dossier. 2016 election meddling, etc.

Take a look at Steve Hiltons article about the circular movement of money in US aid to Ukraine going to Burisma then to lobbyists associated with Hunter Biden and Devon Archer, then Democrat Senators who then pushed Obama to fund oil and gas exploration in Ukraine...rinse, repeat.

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/stev...as-bidens-dems

The Dems are up to their eyeballs in Ukraine. It cannot be ignored. Trump not only has a right to have his personal lawyer looking into this stuff, he has a duty to have our DOJ investigate it all. With the cooperation of Ukraine.
And it's happening. Buckle up, Leftists.

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But the problem for you is, most of us AREN’T GOP supporters. We are conservatives, and the GOP is, sadly, the only thing we have standing between a free America and the hell hole the left and people like you are actively creating.
Truth. ^^

The GOP is the much lesser of two evils. It pretends to be conservative and sometimes, rarely, it does conservative things, but the democrat party is pathologically evil.
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Simple facts.

The Party wants trump gone.

So Trump will be gone.

Things like evidence, facts and truth are meaningless in this Party Agenda.

The "impeachment 'trial' " is merely a show trial similar to the ones in Germany 80 years ago. And we KNOW what happened to THOSE people!

History is merely repeating itself.

"In order for evil to triumph, it is only necessary for good men to DO NOTHING!"

And THAT is what has been done this far! NOTHING! We deserve what we are GOING to GET!
If all we do is talk on this forum then yes, good men will have done nothing and evil prevails.

War is upon us. What would our children say, our forefathers say, if we let the republic be overthrown by socialists while we were still breathing?

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This, like the other several big waste-of-time-and-money investigations, has crumbled and collapsed into nothing.

Participating/leading Dems should be embarrassed and resign over this, or be impeached and thrown out of office.

This is total and utter waste of resources and sideshow. Meanwhile, real problems persist and solutions not being presented. Economy, trade, war, drugs, homelessness, veterans issues, etc. Dems are playing nonsense games with the nation while real problems are not being addressed.
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This, like the other several big waste-of-time-and-money investigations, has crumbled and collapsed into nothing.

Participating/leading Dems should be embarrassed and resign over this, or be impeached and thrown out of office.

This is total and utter waste of resources and sideshow. Meanwhile, real problems persist and solutions not being presented. Economy, trade, war, drugs, homelessness, veterans issues, etc. Dems are playing nonsense games with the nation while real problems are not being addressed.
of course.. because if problems arent addressed, they got more **** to run on
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Vindman is the one who should be ashamed of his conduct. A military officer or police officer should know, respect, and follow the chain of command. The chain of command is sacrosanct and never violated.

However, Vindman deliberately circumvented the chain of command not only regarding his actions in this case. It has come to light that this has occurred a number of times throughout his career and he is considered somewhat of a problem by his superiors.

"...But Vindman was unreliable and had questionable judgment, according to his own outgoing superior, Tim Morrison, the National Security Council’s senior director for European affairs.

In fact, Morrison viewed Vindman as so untrustworthy that he opted to exclude him from his conversations with William Taylor, the senior US diplomat in Ukraine.

Vindman had an “unfortunate habit,” Morrison thought, of defying the sprawling executive branch’s carefully delineated chain of command. Vindman’s testimony vindicates Morrison’s dripping disdain for his former subordinate. ..."

CITE: https://nypost.com/2019/11/19/alexan...ent-testimony/
Morrison is a Republican in Trump's back pocket. And it doesn't matter what he thinks, it matters what he knows. He is being led around like an obedient dog by the GOP.
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And once again Miss Klaymore is full of ****. Just another paid Democrat trolling online spreading cow ****
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For instance:

The impeachment is not a house of cards. The underlying cause (the substantive claims of the whistleblower) have been proven and verified by multiple witnesses, under oath.
That is far from a house of cards.
I think it's curious that the bloodthirsty Trump haters hear one thing, but we hear something entirely different.

Thus far, nothing has been proven to be true. Conflicting statements from multiple witnesses who do not have first-hand knowledge do not prove anything. It is obvious there is no evidence of a quid pro quo, unlike the situation where Biden ordered a Ukranian prosecutor to be fired while threatening to withhold aid. Thus far we have only heard biased opinions, not evidence.

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This, like the other several big waste-of-time-and-money investigations, has crumbled and collapsed into nothing.

Participating/leading Dems should be embarrassed and resign over this, or be impeached and thrown out of office.
If there is any rational sense left in the country, the next election will take care of this. I am not, however, holding my breath waiting for that to happen.
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The Democrats are complete hypocrites.
They are trying to impeach Trump for something they ARE ACTUALLY COMPLICIT in.
The DNC along with the Clintons, and a bunch of GOV agency personnel ACTUALLY DID go after a political rival, TRUMP was THE GOP duly ELECTED POTUS candidate (THIS IS A FACT)!!! Joe is not a duly elected anything at this time!!

HELL, the DNC and Clintons did the SAME THING to Bernie!! They did it TWICE!!! Trump is doing the right thing regardless of the "political optics"!! Biden ACTUALLY broke the law and Trump is TRYING to do something about it!!
This raises an interesting point: if one desires to be immune to prosecution, does he merely have to run a political campaign against those tasked with enforcing the laws he has broken?

That is to say: does Joe Biden merely need to run for President against Trump in order to get away with whatever he wants? Is that how it works?

Biden bragged to the CFR, ON CAMERA, no less, that he blackmailed Ukraine to drop the investigation of his son, or else he would withhold a billion dollars in foreign aid that Congress had already prescribed. Trump merely told Ukraine that we were no longer blackmailing them.

The Democrats seem to be asking, "What do you mean we can't impeach Trump for OUR crimes?!?!?!"
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Yes we have a secret weapon and it's the Democrats themselves. The party that gave America slavery, Jim Crow laws, fights against civil rights, welfare, ghetto's, the Civil war, dysfunctional, broken unionized public schools, public housing, Obama phones, Obamacare, cash-for-clunkers WILL ONCE AGAIN....shoot themselves in the foot.

Democrats are always, always, always on the wrong side of history. Just wait, they are doing nothing but handing the 2020 election to Trump on a silver platter. I wouldn't be a bit surprised to see them lose the House as a bonus.

Just wait and see!
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And once again Miss Klaymore is full of ****. Just another paid Democrat trolling online spreading cow ****
Why are you calling me Miss? Do you have something against women? Unless you actually think I am female, then you must harbor some sort of disdain towards women or why else would you make an attempt to allude that I am female?
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This “Impeachment “ crap will continue for many, many years to come. The Dems have gone to far to ever drop or back away from the mess they’ve caused. If the impeachment attempt fails, the Dems will make excuses and claimed they were cheated, until Hell freezes over. If the the Dems win and the impeachment is successful, the Dems will pat themselves on the back and take a victory lap, until Hell freezes over. It will be never ending!
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This raises an interesting point: if one desires to be immune to prosecution, does he merely have to run a political campaign against those tasked with enforcing the laws he has broken?

That is to say: does Joe Biden merely need to run for President against Trump in order to get away with whatever he wants? Is that how it works?

Biden bragged to the CFR, ON CAMERA, no less, that he blackmailed Ukraine to drop the investigation of his son, or else he would withhold a billion dollars in foreign aid that Congress had already prescribed. Trump merely told Ukraine that we were no longer blackmailing them.

The Democrats seem to be asking, "What do you mean we can't impeach Trump for OUR crimes?!?!?!"
Absolutely!
Running for office DOES NOT make you immune to ANYTHING. The left only makes it APPEAR it is. Just like they are trying to weaponize the words collusion and quid pro quo. They are running this impeachment on quid pro quo, but when they got schooled by someone who told them the Articles of Impeachment don't include quid pro quo, they changed it to bribery.
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I tried to watch both CBS and ABC this morning and their opening headlines this morning were that they now have President Trump by the short hairs. The entire Impeachment Probe fell apart yesterday when the Ambassador said he had an impression only. There was no hard evidence of any sort. I just sent e-mails to each news show stating I can no longer trust them and will not watch the shows any longer. This was pure propaganda and lies.

I wonder how many Democrats will fall in line and support these lies when it comes to voting. I believe even liberals would have trouble getting behind someone who supported this fiasco.
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Anyone still supporting this clown show circus in the White House should be ashamed.
They can't help themselves, their souls have been robbed by the career
con artist and anti-democracy POS who they voted to place into the Oval Office.
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After this charade I can easily see Trump winning in 2020 getting a super majority in the Senate and taking back the House. And since so many of the RINO are not running for re-election we might actually get some true Conservatives in Congress.
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