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Old 11-04-2019, 11:39 PM
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I remember reading about this in the '60s and '70s...we laughed at it...but it is not so funny now

It is not going to take very long before people figure out how to scan the chip and make a clone of it...and rob people blind.

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Mark of the Beast. Without it you can't buy or sell, that's why ''they" want to eliminate cash. Plus when you have served your purpose, they just deactivate your chip and you starve to death because there is no support for the chipless.
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Well the mark requires it to be tied into a global currency.. not going to happen however there are some precursors to digital currency being floated both private and public from the Libra by Zuckerberg and co, to petro, bitcoin, and just read an aritcle that had me crack up today about "World governments making a "Stable currency"

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/lib...IRdruuGr5m4ipA

None the less, you tie this into the biometric IDs, financial transactions and boom there you go.. but this is a bit off still..

remember tough the mark of the beast was in the hand or the head...

so if this is all about "chipping" biometrics (mark of the beast ie aspects of life for transactions such a bio data (beast data bio beast - biology life, beast living thing etc.. )
None the less there are a bunch of activities ongoing especially in china such as block chain governemnt activities, social credit and tons of feed into "The beast / the machine , the AI etc..

This is still really early in the game though

Drones need to advance so that the are fully ai autonomous in numbers such that they will be able to keep the faithful in check fully... predator assisnations are the tip of the iceberg... I mean we need drones flying around and tazing people who are breaking the law.


Its coming but it is just the prilims a bit here a bit there.. we will need a global force before it becomes total, like the after effects of armagedon.


Again it is still the lead up to the millenial reign
https://www.bible-knowledge.com/1000...nnium-kingdom/

This stuff has massive psyop potential so you need to keep things value based instead of event based.'

Again you can't expect to hide in cave's. Destiny will be destiny just purify your heart and do what is right.
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Old 11-05-2019, 04:07 AM
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There will be a very bloody war before that happens in America. Buy your ammo now.
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Biometrics is going to surpass the need for microchips anyway.

And there will be bugger all you can do to stop that.
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90% of the people in the country will have a micro chip inserted just for the convenience it would be.
Imagine walking into a Dr.'s office as a new patient and having all of your past medical history with just a swipe of a chip instead of having to sit and fill out years of info. Or even just running into the grocery store and a simple swipe of your hand over a chip reader pays the bill. Hell even after the grocery store when you get home with arms full of groceries the convenience of unlocking your door without having to fumble with a mess of keys.
Our phones already track us everywhere we go and our credit cards and debit cards already have chips in them and if your into anything digital in this world then your being tracked why not have it built in?
Now I'm sure someone somewhere is already devising a plan to build a reader that will steal your info from the chip, so it's going to have be a very secure chip before it takes off
and people will trust it. Sign me up I'll have one.
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Sign me up I'll have one.
There's no doubt the convenience, but working in the security business, just how secure is it? There's a lot you could pack into a chip that size for your had, but how secure is it really going to be and how much personal privacy do you surrender for that convenience. It's a tough question and I agree that many in the younger generations will jump on board. It unfortunately seems that convenience is often the start of a slippery slope to abuse and loss of liberties.

There's a reason why we have zero personal electronic devices where I work; they're sensors that can be compromised and exploited. Now you're looking at becoming a sensor (for someone) 24/7. No thanks, count me out.

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They've been talking about chipping people for years. The last I heard, there were issues with people getting sores on their hands after having the chip in place for a period of time. And I think there are enough Christians in this country who would oppose this that some type of alternate form of trade would spring up.
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You want criminals to steal your wallet or cut your hand off with a machete?


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You want criminals to steal your wallet or cut your hand off with a machete?
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^^^^ This in a big way. Who could not see that coming? Look at how many sci-fi movies we have seen, something requires a retinal-scan? Take someone's eye out.
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^^^^ This in a big way. Who could not see that coming? Look at how many sci-fi movies we have seen, something requires a retinal-scan? Take someone's eye out.
How many crack heads have you see running around with a machete?
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How many crack heads have you see running around with a machete?
They will use a 12 gauge .
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Mark of the Beast. Without it you can't buy or sell, that's why ''they" want to eliminate cash. Plus when you have served your purpose, they just deactivate your chip and you starve to death because there is no support for the chipless.
Or when deactivated it'll release a small amount of cyanide, problem solved.
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When it reaches the point that all of society is enslaved and microchipped, I think law abiding Americans will rise up, ignore the “laws”, and make America look like a seen from Road Worrier .


Edit: Actually the above is wrong. The millennials think socialism is wonderful, so future generations may very well love the microchip technology.
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Well the mark requires it to be tied into a global currency.. not going to happen


Visa, MC, Discover, Amex, J, etc. are pretty universal now, and currency conversions (plus fees) are calculated automatically, based on real-time/daily rates of exchange and cardholder agreements. My cc and dc work just fine in other countries, and my bank doesn't charge the conversion fee. The only fee involved is if I use a foreign ATM, and that's only the ATM fee charged by the ATM owner, itself (like in the U.S.).

Chip can be linked to cards, and you specify which one to use at the point of sale. No different than an electronic toll pass being linked to a card or account now.

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I still think the mandatory chipping will be in response to the rapture, with the immediate problem of people *left behind* being able to use the cards of others, with no intention of paying. CC companies will have to shut down the system, and the only way someone can get their cards turned back on (or the cards of whoever they choose to be) is to take the mark and worship the beast… stating/acknowledging/worshipping allah is/as god could be the condition to get the chip (assuming Islam is the end-time political-religious system).



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Biometrics is going to surpass the need for microchips anyway.

And there will be bugger all you can do to stop that.

Well the chip would provide an extra layer of security.. ultimately I think it will get DNA sensing chip (not unlike 23 and me but faster chips for high security applications so you DNA would be checked at the point of IDing it'd have to match the chip that is implanted etc. so someone cant simply steal your chip and use it or you take someone elses.) (the real mark of the beast) but a chip that gets updated would insure that any counterfitting of non-dna data was limited time due to a chaning or block chain code. . the chip itself could store blockchain so that all purchases a chipped person ever made or all government monitored interactions locations and other metadata would be stored permanently on the chip that was "Self graduating" this makes the system non system reliant and th information could be stored on the person for anyone who needed to access that data to access rather than relying on a system that required system storage and archival. This would insure everyones informaiton was backed up on the person and accessible at any point without needing to rely on centralized services.



Also it would block access to certain types of data or acccess or the "drain and latency" of centralized merchant system that would be required for a system that monitored all transactions... since monitoring all transactions would be a momentus action. having it a distributed system by distribuing and backing up that data on the persons own chip would have benefits and aid in regulatory processes.

Having biometrics and biometric verification is good but having data storage and retrieval at the point would be way more feasible than trying to track all transactions at all points via a system run by the government.


Oddly it also provide safegaurds against corruption or data hacking at the government servers as we all know goernment systems are not immune to hacking. Two or three point verification including chip at point of IOT tracking point (human) allows the chip to be used for AI IOT tracking also rather than facial only recognition.. again adding benefits to potential falsification of data through methods such as facial recognition that can be spoofed or obscured.

You can only really force that in police states though or people that are subject to penal controls.

The real limitations ----- production..
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When it comes to chip manufacturing, the world is slowly narrowing the field to a few major companies, in only about five countries. Whether you are concerned with chip manufacturing for microprocessors or for memory (DRAM and Flash), Korea is the leader, with the United States following. The top 25 companies chip manufacturing companies are located in these countries:

United States, with 10 companies
Korea, with 2 companies
Taiwan, with 3 companies
Japan, with 7 companies
Europe, with 3 companies
With 7 bilion people though the cost itself is stagering at over 200 billion just ot produce all the chips... there are real barriers at this point until mass nano high capacity chips are produced bioadaptable and easy to cosmetically insert during a routine medical by a nurse etc.. much like a vacine.

The cost really needs to come down.

That is just the chips -- point of sale technology etc.. would likely cost trillions to implement. We are still working towards 5g and that is a precursor.

ONce 5g is on big money to direct to those technologies
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90% of the people in the country will have a micro chip inserted just for the convenience it would be.
Imagine walking into a Dr.'s office as a new patient and having all of your past medical history with just a swipe of a chip instead of having to sit and fill out years of info. Or even just running into the grocery store and a simple swipe of your hand over a chip reader pays the bill. Hell even after the grocery store when you get home with arms full of groceries the convenience of unlocking your door without having to fumble with a mess of keys.
Our phones already track us everywhere we go and our credit cards and debit cards already have chips in them and if your into anything digital in this world then your being tracked why not have it built in?
Now I'm sure someone somewhere is already devising a plan to build a reader that will steal your info from the chip, so it's going to have be a very secure chip before it takes off
and people will trust it. Sign me up I'll have one.

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Imagine walking into a Dr.'s office as a new patient and having all of your past medical history with just a swipe of a chip instead of having to sit and fill out years of info.
Imagine walking into the grocery store and being unable to buy groceries or gas at the gas station. Imagine you can’t buy ANYTHING ANYWHERE. Imagine some politician decided you voted the wrong way and thinks you are an enemy of the people. Imagine the government cancelled your electronic I.D., and now as punishment, you no longer electronically exist.

Imagine how wonderful that would be.
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a) what if someone chops your hand off to get the hands on your cash/car?

b) Does this bother anyone about biblical prophecy? “The second beast of Revelation 13 will cause ‘all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name’ I notice that they've put it into the left hand - just to not spook anyone
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