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I keep quite a few on hand

Of course some get used more than others, listed from fast to slow

Handgun:

Bullseye
W231/HP38-same powder
Unique
SR7625- Used for shotgun too
SR4756-same as above
2400
H110/W296-same powder

Rifle:

IMR4198
W748
H335
IMR4320
IMR4350
W760
IMR4831

Shotgun:

SR7625-20 ga
SR4756-12 ga

I'll be looking for a replacement for the SR powders when I run out, they got discontinued some time back
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Unique and Red Dot/Promo - Handgun, Rifle, Shotgun
Blue Dot - Handgun, Shotgun
2400 - Handgun
RL 7, 3031, 1680, RL 15, - Rifle
Have others that get less use - 4759, Bullseye, Trail Boss
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Unique, Red Dot and 700x: Pistol Rifle and Shotgun
Lil Gun, AA2460, H4831, IMR3031, 748: Rifle
Bullseye, AA#5, 2400: Pistol

That would cover pretty much everything I load for.
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Rifle: (AR15/M4) WC844 (H335)

Other Rifle: (308 - 8X57 - 223 LR target) IMR8208XBR

Pistol: V340

Above is for a post collapse scenario preference as standardized, versatile and high performance trumps variable desires

I actually use V3N37 not V340 now (I only need this for 9MM loads) but in a post world N340 can be used at near factory velocities (V is the cleanest pistol powder made so better for maintenance) and it can be used in 7.62Toc-9MM-40-10MM-357Sig-38/357-44SPL&Mag-45ACP/Colt but unlike virtually every other pistol powder that is versatile this is a high performance powder that delivers factory velocities (Does not do 380-41mag or the 454/50 types)

I would rather my total weight be more of the same than a bunch of specialized powders but that is me

WC844 (Mil H335) is for all CQ weapons. 8208XBR is extra short cut and was developed to maintain POA with wide temperature change so would be for longer range specialty weapons
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I look at the powders and I see a lot of old farts that stock the same powders as I do. Unique, red dot, 2400, 4895 and 4831. When we had to use non lead projectiles I had to move into the modern world. 1680 and enforcer. I shoot mostly pistol and rifles which are chambered for pistol rounds. I also like cast projectiles.
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I am also trying to pare down to fewer VERSATILE powders. I have gobs of part cans of this and that bought years ago that I am using up. Then I'll have more room for many cans of the versatile stuff. I am also old school, my list are old timey powders that I have used for years.

Red Dot, Unique, Blue Dot, 4198, 748, 4064.
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The four smokeless powders and five sizes of Black Powder I plan on keeping in quantity:

Alliant Unique powder for:
.25 ACP, .32 ACP, .380 ACP, 9mm, .357 Mag, .44Mag, 10mm, .40, .45 ACP, .45 Colt .50 GI, .32-20, .22 Hornet lead, 12 ga, 20 ga

IMR 4227 powder for:
.22 Hornet, 7.62x39, .30 Carbine, 32-20, .45-70, .410 bore, lead bullets in .223, .243, .30-30, .30-'06

IMR 4895 powder for:
.223, .243, .270, .30-30, 7.62x39, .308, .30-'06, .300 WM, .350 RM, .375 H&H Mag., .45-70, .460 WM

IMR 4350 powder for:
.243, .270, .30-30, .308, .30-'06, .300 WM, .338 Lapua, .375 H&H, .408 Cheytac, .460 WM, .50 BMG

Black powder (Cannon, Fg, FFg, FFFg, FFFFg) for:
.32-20, .45 Colt, .45-70, 12-gauge brass shells, Flintlocks, Cannon

Just my opinion.
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Handgun:

Bullseye
700x
2400 (mag)
IMR4227 (mag)

Rifle:

W748
BLC2
IMR4895
IMR4064

Large Bore:

IMR 5010/WC860 50BMG
WC872 20x138B

Shotgun:

700x
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Shotgun:

700x
Question:

Do you use the 700X in a gas operated gun?

Do you use it for 1-1/4oz loads?
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Ramshot Zip.

Ramshot Tac.
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If I had to have only two it would be varget and either blue dot or power pistol. Probably power pistol. Those two will load almost anything.
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If I had to have only two it would be varget and either blue dot or power pistol. Probably power pistol. Those two will load almost anything.
You can have as many as you want it my thread.....

It's not about either/or, this vs that, or just having one!

I'm just trying to see what everyone else uses for reloading
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Red Dot/Promo for Ed Harris's "the load" for cast bullet rifle
W231/HP38 for .38 Special and .45 ACP
Power Pistol for 9mm, .40 & 10mm
2400 for .357 & .44 Mags
H335 for .223
H4895 for .308 service rifle
IMR 4064 for .30/06
FFF black powder for flintlocks

and Unique for whatever.
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I haven't done any loading in long while but when I did , I much prefer to load mildly mostly accustomed to older guns not designed for high pressures.
I tend to think that the gun lasts longer that way.
What I load is for target practice and use factory loads for hunting and security.
IMR 4227 primarily in smokeless powder and FF-FFF-FFFF for my black powder guns .
BP rifles need the FF but pistols need FFFF just to be functional .
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Confused me for a bit, because I thought this was the other thread!

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I haven't done any loading in long while but when I did , I much prefer to load mildly mostly accustomed to older guns not designed for high pressures. I tend to think that the gun lasts longer that way.
Same here, for handguns and most rifles.

I also try not to have a separate powder for everything I shoot. Just to keep things simple. But it's hard to do that!

So it's Unique for all handguns. Now that I have a chrono, I may try some different powders for magnum calibers. Or maybe not, LOL.

For 5.56 and .308 I have a bunch of Varget, but getting into the new CFE223 powder because the specs say it has faster velocity for 5.56 and .308. Still more testing to do. Also trying out some Hodgdon 8208 XBR, faster burning powder for shorter barrelled .308, but haven't done much testing yet.

Also using RL15 for 30-06 and heavy .308 bullets. RL7 for 30-30. 4198 for cast rifle rounds. For some reason I have about 3-4 lbs of 4198 and I don't even use it that much.

For 300 Blackout, I found a good load for 125g using 20g Lil Gun for 2186 fps out of a 10.5" barrel, but need to do some testing with 150g bullets. But for subsonic, it's CFEBLK. 4198 can work and I have a few pounds of it, but it's hard to meter. CFEBLK works great! I should probably try it for higher caliber cast loads and see what happens. There's no load data though, so it would be experimental.

For PRIMERS

I'm not picky, but have an ammo box full of Winchester and CCI and I'm happy with those. I've started using the CCI white box military primers for semiautos. I hate seeing dents in the primers of ejected unfired rounds! Plus it allows me to leave my ammo box primers alone without using them up, saving them for just in case. Some are pretty old but I haven't seen any problems with them, so they are my stash. As far as I know they're not going to go bad from age.

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I have more than this short list. But the ones I find most versatile are: Unique, IMR4895, and IMR4064. I have black powder substitute also.
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Rifle: (AR15/M4) WC844 (H335)


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WC844 (Mil H335) is for all CQ weapons. 8208XBR is extra short cut and was developed to maintain POA with wide temperature change so would be for longer range specialty weapons
We used to use mil surplus 4831, just reciently used the last of it up. Didn't know you could still buy military powder. Where do you find it????
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Confused me for a bit, because I thought this was the other thread!
I know......

I did it because of the other thread about just having one powder

I don't have just one, I have the ability to have several and use several for varying reasons

I do load for a lot of different cartridges and sometimes what works well for one doesn't always work so well with the others

I choose powders based on accuracy, ability to fill the case, how they drop, how clean they burn, muzzle flash, velocity and also burn rate. The gun/cartridge combination a lot of times dictates your powder choices

For example, I noticed a lot of guys are using 2400, I also use/used it but I prefer the W296 over it because it drops better, gives me better velocity and fills the case better.......in some cases it's just splitting hairs but to each his own!

I do use Unique but also use other powders because they burn cleaner and/or fill the case better

In semi auto's, I always use the cleanest powder that meets my specs in regards to accuracy and reliability

In my bolt action rifles, it's based on accuracy and burn rate for velocity without the pressure. I don't care how clean it burns

I know in a bug out situation, end of the earth, shtf, survival or whatever I'd consolidate, I do have many choices to choose from

Until then, I can have whatever I want, why limit yourself?
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Red Dot (Ed Harris's "The Load" & several "cat-sneeze" loads in rifles.)
Bullseye (.38 Special target load, lots of others)
Herco (.32 Long Colt CF in rifles)
Power Pistol (for 9mm)
Blue Dot (.357, but also cast-bullet rifle, replacing 5744)
AA#9 (still best for my .25-20 Stevens CF)
Ramshot Enforcer (Schuetzen load in .32-20)
Lil'Gun (only powder for Hornet, but many other uses)
Benchmark (.222 Rem.)
8208XBR (.222 & .223 varmint loads - still learning)
RL-7 (.35 Remington for rifle-length barrels)
4198 (still best for the .22-3000 R2 Lovell 50 grain loads)
Varget (anything 4895 did, Varget does better. Low-flash .223 load for Mini-14)
4350 (if your .243 won't shoot with 4350, sell the rifle)
Don't load any of the big magnums anymore so slower powders are off the menu
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We used to use mil surplus 4831, just reciently used the last of it up. Didn't know you could still buy military powder. Where do you find it????
Hi Tech.
https://hi-techammo.com/collections/...tary-gunpowder
Been dealing with them for over 20 years.

I would guess I have used maybe 200LBs of WC844 over the years.
When they could not get it; I had to order 48LBs (X2 orders = 96LBs) of actual H335 (PV) and not a hint of difference. My loads were exactly the same.
And yes I am trying to cut back on my AR shooting.
Loading 5K+ a year was annoying
Well the case prep as I just hate the lubing and then cleaning off the lube using lacquer thinner as I don't like sticky cases

For those trying IMR8208XBR please note while this is extremely fine cut, meters well and is very accurate it does not do well with hot loads.
Max loads are max loads.
At .50gr (1/2 grain) over max in my big target AR15 it blew out every primer (not flattened) blew them out of the case.
Over pressure is OK with a sturdy bolt gun but not a gas gun at least in my experience
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