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Hey all, since I got my 1911, I now have a bunch of spent .45ACP brass. So I'm working on some reloads. What I noticed is that Blazer Brass evidently uses small pistol primers. I assumed that all .45 would be large primers. Those of you who do reload, and reload Blazer Brass for the .45, do you use magnum small pistol primers, or just regular small pistol primers?

Or should I just throw all the Blazer brass into the recycle bin?

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Your data should specify the primers. I wouldn't use mag primers in the 45 ACP unless you find data for them or start low and work your way up.

I don't have many sp size 45 ACP brass, just ones I picked up.
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I would just use standard primers, regardless of size

When using mag primers for standard loads reduce charge by at least 10% and then work up from there.

To me, it's not worth the hassle. I only use mag primers on magnum loads when required by the powder (ball types)
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Standard primers, regardless of size I have not noted a difference. The important thing is to separate large & small. I am actually considering making all of mine small, just for convenience. Right now I only need large for the 45.
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The small primer .45 ACP brass reloads fine using published data for a large primer and just substituting a standard small pistol primer. The velocity produced is a bit lower, but the difference is usually less than the sample velocity standard deviation. The load will be safe and function OK.

There is no harm in using magnum small pistol primers. Those will produce about the same velocity as a standard large pistol primer, but there is no real need or advantage to doing so.
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Hey all, since I got my 1911, I now have a bunch of spent .45ACP brass. So I'm working on some reloads. What I noticed is that Blazer Brass evidently uses small pistol primers. I assumed that all .45 would be large primers. Those of you who do reload, and reload Blazer Brass for the .45, do you use magnum small pistol primers, or just regular small pistol primers?

Or should I just throw all the Blazer brass into the recycle bin?

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Use the same primers you would for your AR. Cuts down on inventory that is not needed...

What I do for 9 sillimeter loadings and have never had any issues.
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Id segregate them out, because more than anything else, they will be a PITA, especially if most of what you load uses LP, and you get any mixed up. Youll know what Im getting at, the first time you try to seat a LP in small pocket while banging away.

Nothing wrong with loading them with SP, if you stay on top of things and pay attention, but is a lot easier, and generally less of a hassle, to go with what is more common. 99.9% of the 45acp brass Ive ever come across uses LP primers. Ive seen a few with small, but they are not the norm, and I usually just chuck them.

As far as using standard vs magnum, I pretty much use them interchangeably, especially with pistol loads, and have never had an issue or ever seen signs of overpressure.

As long as youre not trying to hotrod things, it shouldn't be an issue.
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. . . Youll know what Im getting at, the first time you try to seat a LP in small pocket while banging away.
Yeah, I'll admit it, that's how I discovered the Blazer was the small primer. I just couldn't squeeze the hand priming tool hard enough . . .

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Nothing wrong with loading them with SP, if you stay on top of things and pay attention, but is a lot easier, and generally less of a hassle, to go with what is more common. 99.9% of the 45acp brass Ive ever come across uses LP primers. Ive seen a few with small, but they are not the norm, and I usually just chuck them.
I didn't think anyone would use SP, but these are factory Blazer, which is pretty much my go-to range/plinking ammo. Now I check the boxes, and so far it appears that Winchester white-box, S&B, Sig, and MagTech are all LP. Maybe CCI likes to save a penny or two a box and go with the SP on the Blazers. Go figure.


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As far as using standard vs magnum, I pretty much use them interchangeably, especially with pistol loads, and have never had an issue or ever seen signs of overpressure.

As long as youre not trying to hotrod things, it shouldn't be an issue.
This is too much like rocket science. I'm not gonna be doing any hotrodding!
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Yes to all that said spp. The magnum primers aren’t for the amount of powder per se but how slow of a burning powder.
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I prefer to load large primer I think the large primer burns cleaner so it makes for a cleaner gun and easier casing cleaning imo. But I save all the small primer and after I get around a thousand or so I'll reload them and shoot them at places like the indoor range where half the brass goes over the wall and I can't pick them up.
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A factor favoring the small primer .45 ACP brass is that I can standardize on one size of primer for all of my handgun loading instead of having to keep two sizes.

Also, I can get all of the once-fired small primer brass I want for nothing at the local range, because the owner can sell sorted large primer pocket brass, whereas the mixed caliber brass goes to a scrapper for the scrap price. He lets me sort all the .45 ACP brass out of the 55 gal. drum, putting it into buckets by headstamp for resale, and I can keep all of the small primer pocket brass for my sorting effort.

I got a 5 gallon bucket of once-fired small pocket .45 ACP for nothing, for me a lifetime supply. They get multiple sorted by headstamp buckets of large primer pocket .45 ACP for resale by the pound at four times the current American Metal Market scrap brass market price. Overall not a bad Saturday's work for a retired guy with nothing better to do on a rainy day than sort brass, chat with the customers and drink free coffee.
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I've been eyeballing all the other .45 brass I got (a guy dropped off a bunch a couple years ago, which, of course, necessitated the purchase of the 1911 in the first place!), so far the only small primer I've reloaded is Blazer. I'm thinking back on what I sorted and there's some CCI and Speer, which makes me wonder if they're small pocket as well (since they are in the same family tree), while I know all the Federal I've seen has the large primer.

I'd just bag it and go with all large primer, but I shoot a lot of Blazer factory loads, so I'm gonna end up with the brass.
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There are a number of SP 45ACP cases now.
Federal, Winchester, Speer, CCI Blazer and Fiocchi use SP in some of their 45 ACP loads and others are likely following.
I am betting they will regret this later on when LP primer sales drop

For those using a Dillon just save up the SP cases. When you finish loading 9MM/40 whatever in SP switch the base plate and continue using SP in 45 set up until you finish those SP cases.

For range plinking I use the same load
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The small primer brass works fine for my 1911 semiwadcutter loads. Given the way the old cartridge is loaded, that level of primer flash works just fine with the propellants I use in it.
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