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IMO, you should all say a prayer of thanks to Bill Ruger for introducing the P series of pistols, then pass on this one based on price.

Do any of you remember how few semi auto pistols were completely reliable with hollow point bullets, prior to 1985? Do you remember what they cost? Then Ruger comes along and builds a gun that is completely reliable, at half price!.

We are in a golden age for affordable, reliable, combat pistols, and Bill Ruger and Gaston Glock are the reason why.
Yes, we are in the golden age for affordable, reliable combat pistols.

No, Bill Ruger had little responsibility for it. The P series started in 1985, better guns were already on the market or soon would be. In fact, IMO, Ruger did little for semi-auto handguns. I've owned a lot of guns and managed to never desire a Ruger P series, only owning one briefly before quickly trading the boat anchor away. Ruger himself advocated against high capacity magazines.

https://www.nytimes.com/1989/07/14/u...&module=inline

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/09/b...n-control.html

"If William B. Ruger Sr., the co-founder of the gun maker Sturm, Ruger & Company, had had his way, Mr. Kelley’s firepower might have been much diminished. In 1989, Mr. Ruger proposed a ban on high-capacity magazines, which led a smaller rival to call Sturm, Ruger “the Benedict Arnold of the gun industry.”

Mr. Ruger once said that he was open even to waiting periods for handgun purchases. “If the truth be known, I see no real harm in the concept,” he said..."

By the time the Ruger P series came around, there were other good options:

CZ75 and clones like Tangfolio
Sig Sauer P series
Glock 17 and 19 and others
Beretta 92
SW Gen 1-3 series

And not long after, others came along too, as we've seen.
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I know many here hate the idea, but berretta mags are shaped to fit many pistols, including this ruger i think. The only difference is different placement of the hole to hold the magazine in place.
Correct, the Ruger magazines were made in Italy by the same company. Early test quantity P85s used military Beretta M9 magazines which were modified with the relocated hole, and in those early guns the mags could be used in either a Ruger P85 or an M9.
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Yes, we are in the golden age for affordable, reliable combat pistols...
Correct.
For example:

https://www.kingsfirearmsonline.com/...1-f652bf30ddd7

M&P45's @ $249.
I pick mine up tomorrow...
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Well as a proud owner of a P85, I have no shame! Bought it over 30 years ago and its still purty, reliable, and fun to shoot. So there.
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I'd offer $200 for it.

Had the choice between the P89 and an EAA Witness (CZ clone). Ruger was the "name you know" back then, so I pulled the trigger (HA!) on the P89.

Still pulling the trigger 20 years later. I think I gave just over $300 new, but memory fades . . .

Not a collector's item, but stone cold reliable.
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ive had a P85 for maybe 20+ years, its my only centerfire handgun. thing is very reliable and will shoot any ammo. i bought a couple of 30 rounds mags for it.... just to have. you shoot up alot of ammo that way! i also have a 10 rnder, a 15 rnder and 2, 20 rnder mags for it.

only thing is, make sure when youre cleaning it you put the recoil spring back the correct way or it jams, thats what mine does anyway.

i have an uncle mikes friction fit hard plastic holster for it as well as a mil-spec Bianchi flap holster that i think was made for a Beretta 9mm but it fits the ruger with a little time & stretching. then i have the drop-leg molle platform for the bianchi holster to attach to.
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My first 9 was a used P85 that I got around 1990 for under $150. Second was a S&W 6906 Gen 3 that I got about 5 or so years ago for about $200.
I know both of them in my sleep.

Never had a need to add another, unless I find a good deal on a P93 or P94.

Nothing against the latest polymer princess offerings, just not my personal preference.

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The thread is getting a little old by now but on Saturday I bought a brand new SR9C stainless for $299.
With an additional two 17round mags the OTD price was $340.

I didn't see if the P89 was purchased or not, but like others who posted there are better deals out there right now.
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I have owned two P89's in the past and wish I still owned at least one of them. They are a little heavy compared to the plastic fantastic stuff but dead nuts reliable and unless you are a very young person you won't live long enough to wear one out. Typical Ruger, built like a tank and made to last.
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The Ruger P series were solid, reliable guns, but $300 sounds a bit high. I found Hi-caps for the P89 for $10 bucks and bought two figuring one day I'll pick one up or be able to trade the magazines off for something else.

I have a similar soft spot for a S&W 6906. I'd like to find a nice one to buy, but really what is it for? I'm never going to carry it in place of my current carry guns (G19/G43).

In the end, I think in a decade we are going to look back and wish we had scooped up every one of those used high capacity duty handguns for $300!!

Keep plugging alone, gun collecting is a marathon, not a sprint!
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Local pawn shop has a Ruger P89 for sale for a little over $300.

Pass or buy?

Why Buy? Because the P89 is a mostly forgotten piece of handgun history. During the late 1980s and through the 1990s Ruger made some excellent P series handguns. I had a P90 in 45acp, and a P91 in 40 S&w.

The P90 was sold, and I miss it. Since I never cared for the 40 S&W, the P91 is no big deal.

I currently own zero Ruger handguns, which is a shame. If I were to add a Ruger handgun to the collection, I can not think of a better one than the P89.

Why Pass? Yet another handgun to buy magazines for. Then again, it will probably sit in the gun safe and rarely get used. It will probably get used for articles more than it will get shot.

Honest truth is, I am looking at the new Glock G45 in 9mm. So if I get the P89 now, I will have to postpone getting the G45.

Then again, I have a G19, but no Ruger handguns.

Decisions, decisions.

Maybe I could get the P89 now, and wait for prices to drop on the G45?


First: You will never ever hear the words "Don't buy a P series gun" from my lips. I may say which I prefer or what is or isn't a good deal but I own 17 of them and 3 different models of the P89. Except for maybe the P94 in 9mm, I think the P89 is one of if not the best shooting of the P guns. I think you would regret not buying but I am coming late to the thread so maybe you already did.
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I own a P94 in 40 cal. Awesome handgun.
The fan boys will always talk **** about the Rugers.... mainly political.
The P series are reliable....durable... accurate
If it’s too heavy for some of the ladies here.... maybe a gym membership will help you
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Back in the day it was a Security Six revolver and a P series pistol that held my attention. Wish I had bought one of each and set them aside.
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No argument that the P89 has a well-earned reputation for reliability. But so do a LOT of other guns that are lighter, thinner, more ergonomic, and/or offer greater capacity and better controls.

They are heavy and big. This makes them less-than-ideal to carry.
P89 capacity is 15 in 9mm or 10 in .40. My far smaller CZs, Glocks, Smiths, and XDs and Walthers have far more capacity, upwards of 19 in 9mm and 15 in .40.
The slide mounted controls are the worst in the industry. And the trigger was made back when no attention was given to triggers.

So if you're okay with paying for a heavy, bulky gun with bad ergos and a poor trigger and industry low capacity - it's your money.

Back when Obama was POTUS and gun laws uncertain, I got one of these Rugers for $300 and promptly traded it away for a SKS. That SKS was fantastic and accurate. I came out WAY ahead.

I wouldn't pay over $200 for a good example in today's market, and it would only go into the collection as a curio and spare or range toy, not for serious use. Maybe a car gun backup. Or a loaner to someone in need.
Reviving this thread.

I generally have little interest in the P-series guns unless they are incredible bargains, in todays' buyer's market.

Last week I stumbled upon a near new condition Ruger P95 9mm with 2 mags, box, and papers for only $200 (seller wanted $225, I negotiated to $200). Polymer frame, stainless slide, with combat sights, made in Connecticut before they moved to Prescott AZ. The only drawback is the mags were Klinton era AWB mags so only 10 round mags.

$200.

Not my favorite design, poor DA trigger, not ideal ergos, as I've stated. Better guns out there in the $300-500 range too.

I hunted around a bit, and found $18 Mecgar fit flush 17 round mags with free shipping so I bought 7 mags. Now my cost is $326 for a rugged combat polymer handgun with a capacity of 17 rds and 9 magazines. A little bulky, not the best controls or trigger, but certainly useful. Now I have a value combat ready firearm, great for car gun, camping spare, loaner, etc.!!!
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Reviving this thread.

I generally have little interest in the P-series guns unless they are incredible bargains, in todays' buyer's market.

Last week I stumbled upon a near new condition Ruger P95 9mm with 2 mags, box, and papers for only $200 (seller wanted $225, I negotiated to $200). Polymer frame, stainless slide, with combat sights, made in Connecticut before they moved to Prescott AZ. The only drawback is the mags were Klinton era AWB mags so only 10 round mags.

$200.

Not my favorite design, poor DA trigger, not ideal ergos, as I've stated. Better guns out there in the $300-500 range too.

I hunted around a bit, and found $18 Mecgar fit flush 17 round mags with free shipping so I bought 7 mags. Now my cost is $326 for a rugged combat polymer handgun with a capacity of 17 rds and 9 magazines. A little bulky, not the best controls or trigger, but certainly useful. Now I have a value combat ready firearm, great for car gun, camping spare, loaner, etc.!!!
Your P95 was built in Prescott AZ, just as all P series pistols have been. It's what the factory was originally built for. Ruger didn't move there, they just opened another plant in an place where they could get away from big unions and other east coast politics. That and Bill Sr. liked the area.

I still have parts for them, but you'll likely never need any. They're pretty bulletproof.


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Reviving this thread.

I generally have little interest in the P-series guns unless they are incredible bargains, in todays' buyer's market.

Last week I stumbled upon a near new condition Ruger P95 9mm with 2 mags, box, and papers for only $200 (seller wanted $225, I negotiated to $200). Polymer frame, stainless slide, with combat sights, made in Connecticut before they moved to Prescott AZ. The only drawback is the mags were Klinton era AWB mags so only 10 round mags.

$200.

Not my favorite design, poor DA trigger, not ideal ergos, as I've stated. Better guns out there in the $300-500 range too.

I hunted around a bit, and found $18 Mecgar fit flush 17 round mags with free shipping so I bought 7 mags. Now my cost is $326 for a rugged combat polymer handgun with a capacity of 17 rds and 9 magazines. A little bulky, not the best controls or trigger, but certainly useful. Now I have a value combat ready firearm, great for car gun, camping spare, loaner, etc.!!!
Your P95 was built in Prescott AZ, just as all P series pistols have been. It's what the factory was originally built for. Ruger didn't move there, they just opened another plant in an place where they could get away from big unions and other east coast politics. That and Bill Sr. liked the area.

I still have parts for them, but you'll likely never need any. They're pretty bulletproof.


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Interesting. It's stamped CT on the slide.
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I would buy any top quality semi auto at that price. In fact, I would buy a dozen (if offered) at that price.
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i dont have any experience with the P series rugers.. the P89, double stack 9mm built like a workhorse like most of rugers other products?
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i dont have any experience with the P series rugers.. the P89, double stack 9mm built like a workhorse like most of rugers other products?
A friend of mine collected Ruger P series pistols starting with the P85. I believe I have shot ever one made.

They are a bit chunky, especally the first few versions.
The safety rotated backwards compared to a Browning safety.

But every single pistol cycled every factory load and every handload we tried. Zero failures.
That was a really big deal for a $300 gun in 1985.

Never heard of a P series being shot +50k rounds like a Glock, but they reliable and decently priced.
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