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Old 12-04-2019, 07:29 AM
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I have been trying to buy just about every type of lock pick I can find to cover all my bases for when the SHTF. So far I have:
1. Classic 20 pc lock pick set with tension wrench.
2. Tubular lock pic set (I highly recommend this if you don’t have one).
3. Every kind of jiggler I could find (30 different kinds)
4. The classic stainless steel Lock pick gun.
5. Home made electric tooth brush pick (which works amazing btw)
6. 10 padlock shims

What am I missing? Anyone have any ideas on what else I can get? Any obscure useful lock picking items you know about? Thx in advance.
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12 gauge shot gun and a 3 foot set of bolt cutters.
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12 gauge shot gun.
If you don't have one the person who owns that lock your picking might.
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If your plan is to pick locks to get other people's stashes once the SHTF and you come to my house, you'll get to find out whether or not Remingtons really do work well.
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Old 12-05-2019, 08:34 PM
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If your plan is to pick locks to get other people's stashes once the SHTF and you come to my house, you'll get to find out whether or not Remingtons really do work well.
Weird Flex but ok.........
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I have been trying to buy just about every type of lock pick I can find to cover all my bases for when the SHTF. So far I have:
1. Classic 20 pc lock pick set with tension wrench.
2. Tubular lock pic set (I highly recommend this if you donít have one).
3. Every kind of jiggler I could find (30 different kinds)
4. The classic stainless steel Lock pick gun.
5. Home made electric tooth brush pick (which works amazing btw)
6. 10 padlock shims

What am I missing? Anyone have any ideas on what else I can get? Any obscure useful lock picking items you know about? Thx in advance.
Some gadgets work better than others. So far I have found lock picking to be skill attained by practice and knowledge about different locks which I can only do by collecting information and putting such in a book.

Picking locks is a good pass-time but you cannot just practice on any locked door you find. Plus you might be good a picking a lock in your hand but place it on a hasp at an odd position and suddenly you are not so good. Alone you are OK but four people watching you get into a locker where someone has lost the key and you are slower than grass growing.
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Just watch Bosnian Bill's channel to see what other gadgets you might want.
Maybe a lock bypass tool, and one of those thin things that look like a feeler gauge to open the dial type locks. Broken key extractors might be useful once in a while.

Lock picking is a useful skill. I was in a temp office and wanted to use the filing cabinet, but it was locked and nobody had the key. 20 seconds later it is opened and in use.

If you want to drive on a service access road or forest trail road that had a locked chain across it, and relock it once you are through, it would come in handy.

I forgot the key to my trailer hitch lock once, before I learned anything about lock picking. Cut a perfectly good lock off with a hack saw. (The key was a 3 hour drive away).

Always be legal of course.
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Old 12-06-2019, 04:16 AM
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You mentioned SHTF,so I'll mention the obvious.
Cordless drill,angle grinder,sawzall,sledge hammer,and time would defeat a high percentage of locked items.
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I have been trying to buy just about every type of lock pick I can find to cover all my bases for when the SHTF. So far I have:
1. Classic 20 pc lock pick set with tension wrench.
2. Tubular lock pic set (I highly recommend this if you donít have one).
3. Every kind of jiggler I could find (30 different kinds)
4. The classic stainless steel Lock pick gun.
5. Home made electric tooth brush pick (which works amazing btw)
6. 10 padlock shims

What am I missing? Anyone have any ideas on what else I can get? Any obscure useful lock picking items you know about? Thx in advance.
What about a big set of bumpkeys?
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Old 12-06-2019, 02:58 PM
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Possession of lockpicks will get you busted for "possession of burglar tools.

Only a thief or a locksmith needs lock picks
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I have been trying to buy just about every type of lock pick I can find to cover all my bases for when the SHTF. So far I have:
1. Classic 20 pc lock pick set with tension wrench.
2. Tubular lock pic set (I highly recommend this if you don’t have one).
3. Every kind of jiggler I could find (30 different kinds)
4. The classic stainless steel Lock pick gun.
5. Home made electric tooth brush pick (which works amazing btw)
6. 10 padlock shims

What am I missing? Anyone have any ideas on what else I can get? Any obscure useful lock picking items you know about? Thx in advance.
What about a big set of bumpkeys?
Good kit for entry.

1. Set of bump
Keys for locks common to your area. Typically kwikset Schlage and Sargent will do. Type from a pro , copy the bump keys on to key blanks with a larger head. Usually these are “vanity “ blanks. It’s much easier to use a bump key with an over sized head.

2. Rubber bump mallet so you can practice without hitting your fingers.

3. WD 40.

4. Set of basic picks should cost 20 bucks.. When you learn how to single pin pick advanced locks , worry about spending more than 20 bucks.

5. Circular tension tool. Much easier to use than a tension wrench. Costs about 60 bucks.

6. Tubular picks. You need two one for each size. Can be used to start some motorcycles and open tool boxes and vending machines.

7. Drill and drill bits. For locks you can’t get picked or that are broken.

8. Crowbar and hammer.

9. If you really want good kit. Lishi tool for pin and tumbler locks. They are expensive about 100 each lock type. BUT a they work good. Rea good.

10. There are also a variety of bypass tools and methods. These open doors without using the lock. A simple example would be using a credit card to open a simple interior lock.

11. Handcuff keys are also a good idea but I’d keep this in my boot or maybe underwear lining. They make one that fits into a boot lace.
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Possession of lockpicks will get you busted for "possession of burglar tools.



Only a thief or a locksmith needs lock picks
It depends on your local laws. They are legal here. Learning to pick locks doesn't make you a thief.

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Possession of lockpicks will get you busted for "possession of burglar tools.



Only a thief or a locksmith needs lock picks
It depends on your local laws. They are legal here. Learning to pick locks doesn't make you a thief.

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Yes really unlikely that possession on your own property would cause you any legal problems anywhere. Possession of even a crowbar at night near a business while dressed in a ski mask might. Or possession of tools near the scene of a break in.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lock_picking

"In the United States, laws concerning possession of lock picks vary from state to state. Generally, possession and use of lock picks is considered equivalent to the possession of a crowbar or any other tool that may or may not be used in a burglary. Possession of lock picks with an intent for their unlawful use is generally prosecuted as a misdemeanor under the category of possession of burglary tools or similar statutes. In many states, simple possession of lock picks is completely legal, as the statutes only prohibit the possession of lock picks or the activity of lock picking when there is a malicious intent."
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Plug spinner. Many times, locks in the real world are easier to pick in one direction than the other. Sometimes, they are almost impossible to pick the direction you need to turn them. A plug spinner solves this problem. I keep a compact one in my lock pick kit.

https://learnlockpicking.com/product...-plug-spinner/

I spent years working as a maintenance mechanic for many companies. Locksmithing was a big part of what I did - including picking all sorts of locks. I am a facilities manager now but I still carry a set of picks in my truck and use it fairly regularly. We have most of our buildings on a masterkey system but there is always some oddball control panel, access hatch, or mechanical equipment cabinet that isn't on my keyring. I pick a lot of locks.
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I have been trying to buy just about every type of lock pick I can find to cover all my bases for when the SHTF. So far I have:
1. Classic 20 pc lock pick set with tension wrench.
2. Tubular lock pic set (I highly recommend this if you donít have one).
3. Every kind of jiggler I could find (30 different kinds)
4. The classic stainless steel Lock pick gun.
5. Home made electric tooth brush pick (which works amazing btw)
6. 10 padlock shims

What am I missing? Anyone have any ideas on what else I can get? Any obscure useful lock picking items you know about? Thx in advance.
A feeler blade with a handle which is ideal for decoding keysafes, a bypass knife and you could eliminate nearly all 30 jiggers with a Peterson Wave and a pair of BogotŠís.
Good shout on the tube pick as I have seen fairly robust office electronic keysafes with mediocre tube locks as backups and a couple of good quality dimple picks would not be a bad idea either.

A handcuff shim and key concealed around your belt is an idea.

My EDC pick kit fits in my wallet and the grab bag kit is no more than eight items.
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My home key looks like that now. So does everyone else's in this building. Last time I looked it up, no-one has yet actually picked that lock without physically breaking it in process. For the time being biggest threat is emp...

Keys like that are spreading rapidly among apartment buildings and other sites where are hundreds of keys to maintain.
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Plug spinner. Many times, locks in the real world are easier to pick in one direction than the other. Sometimes, they are almost impossible to pick the direction you need to turn them. A plug spinner solves this problem. I keep a compact one in my lock pick kit.

https://learnlockpicking.com/product...-plug-spinner/

I spent years working as a maintenance mechanic for many companies. Locksmithing was a big part of what I did - including picking all sorts of locks. I am a facilities manager now but I still carry a set of picks in my truck and use it fairly regularly. We have most of our buildings on a masterkey system but there is always some oddball control panel, access hatch, or mechanical equipment cabinet that isn't on my keyring. I pick a lot of locks.
I forgot to put a plug spinner on my list. Good idea. And not a lot of money.
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I have been trying to buy just about every type of lock pick I can find to cover all my bases for when the SHTF. So far I have:
1. Classic 20 pc lock pick set with tension wrench.
2. Tubular lock pic set (I highly recommend this if you don’t have one).
3. Every kind of jiggler I could find (30 different kinds)
4. The classic stainless steel Lock pick gun.
5. Home made electric tooth brush pick (which works amazing btw)
6. 10 padlock shims

What am I missing? Anyone have any ideas on what else I can get? Any obscure useful lock picking items you know about? Thx in advance.
A feeler blade with a handle which is ideal for decoding keysafes, a bypass knife and you could eliminate nearly all 30 jiggers with a Peterson Wave and a pair of BogotŠ’s.
Good shout on the tube pick as I have seen fairly robust office electronic keysafes with mediocre tube locks as backups and a couple of good quality dimple picks would not be a bad idea either.

A handcuff shim and key concealed around your belt is an idea.

My EDC pick kit fits in my wallet and the grab bag kit is no more than eight items.
I’m a locksmith. And if it’s a dimple lock , I’m drilling it , I just don’t get any practice on those. And some are really hard ( multi lock ).
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Iím a locksmith. And if itís a dimple lock , Iím drilling it , I just donít get any practice on those. And some are really hard ( multi lock ).
The older Multis are no big deal and you would be surprised how easy some of the pin in pin Multi clones are to pick. Pick up few on eBay and give it a go, Sparrow dimple kit is value for money and the handles are comfy during early days practice sessions.
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