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Old 11-15-2019, 04:24 AM
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A good .44 bullet at 900-1000 fps will kill anything one could ask it too, short of maybe the biggest Kodiak bears.
not if you miss its vitals, and two legged animals tend to hunt in packs ;-)
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Old 11-15-2019, 11:41 AM
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I'm not a 44 mag fan. One of my hunting buddies uses one. He bought a winchester 94 in 44 mag and hunts with that now. Just a thought. I hunt with 357 mag and only shoot the 357 for hunting. I put 38 spec rounds in it for plinking and target. I have a 454 ruger. I shoot mainly 45 lc in it. About the only time it get a 454 is during hunting season. You don't drive your car with the pedal to the floor all the time and you don't need to shoot your pistol wide open all the time either
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Old 11-15-2019, 12:11 PM
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I'm not a 44 mag fan. One of my hunting buddies uses one. He bought a winchester 94 in 44 mag and hunts with that now. Just a thought. I hunt with 357 mag and only shoot the 357 for hunting. I put 38 spec rounds in it for plinking and target. I have a 454 ruger. I shoot mainly 45 lc in it. About the only time it get a 454 is during hunting season. You don't drive your car with the pedal to the floor all the time and you don't need to shoot your pistol wide open all the time either
your analogy of driving a car is wrong.. if you're not practicing with the loads you actually intend to hunt with, then you're simply not preparing yourself properly to hunt with that weapon

several hundred foot pounds less energy and thousands less muzzle velocity combined with a lower recoil impulse generally translates into a very different point of impact.. practice with what you're going to use, or use something else
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Old 11-15-2019, 01:31 PM
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I ditched my 44M's a long time ago. Too much recoil for fast follow up shots in a defensive situation and since I don't hunt with a handgun, the extra power afforded by the 44M was unnecessary. That what I told myself...YMMV
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Back when I started shooting/loading for the 44's I found that I didn't like full power Unique loads as much a full tilt loads of slower powder like 2400. Took like 30+% more powder to get the same velocity but the felt recoil was way more tolerable.
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Years ago I bought a ruger vaquero .45lc. It was a lot more fun to shoot than my .44 mag. Eventually I sold my .44 and bought 2 more vaqueros. My favorite would be the one with the 7 1/2" barrel. I've had arthritis pretty bad in one hand since a skilsaw accident so the .44 was never much fun after that. The .45 is much easier to deal with. Just a thought.
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The large case revolver rounds are tailor made for reloading.
This allows you to load the bullet you want, at the power you want, cheap enough to practice as much as you want.
Shoot 200 rds a week for a couple years, and all the arguments against a magnum revolver turn to dust.
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The large case revolver rounds are tailor made for reloading.
This allows you to load the bullet you want, at the power you want, cheap enough to practice as much as you want.
Shoot 200 rds a week for a couple years, and all the arguments against a magnum revolver turn to dust.

Same applies to the 357 magnum. With the exception that 357 is more economical.
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Same applies to the 357 magnum. With the exception that 357 is more economical.
I started shooting 357 mag when I was in high school. By my mid 20s, I had loaded and shot 4-5,000 rds, mostly hard cast reloads.

Then I started over with the 44 mag. Again I had to shoot several thousand rounds before I could master the recoil.

By the time I bought my first auto pistol, I no longer noticed the muzzel blast or recoil of a handgun.

Nothing makes a handgun more effective, than a Dillion 550B, and a 5 gal pail of empty brass.
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To be fair I do like the 45 Colt. Then again I cast for it so it's economical as well. S'pose the same could apply to the 44M. I don't shoot the Colt as often as I should but I have some loads for it that run in the 750-800 fps range which are not all that hard to hang onto.
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The large case revolver rounds are tailor made for reloading.
This allows you to load the bullet you want, at the power you want, cheap enough to practice as much as you want.
Shoot 200 rds a week for a couple years, and all the arguments against a magnum revolver turn to dust.
No they will not. A magnum will be a magnum for as long as anyone lives. One's ability to shoot a magnum will decrease sooner of later.

Seems to me that is the point of the OP.

I know a man my age that retained most of the strength I once had until almost a year ago. Rheumatoid Arthritis‎ hit him and now he cannot do what I can.

Each must find the gun that fits his current abilities.
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The .44 special is about my max for comfort and accuracy at my age.
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No they will not. A magnum will be a magnum for as long as anyone lives. One's ability to shoot a magnum will decrease sooner of later.

Seems to me that is the point of the OP.

I know a man my age that retained most of the strength I once had until almost a year ago. Rheumatoid Arthritis‎ hit him and now he cannot do what I can.

Each must find the gun that fits his current abilities.
or really, you could be 25, slip and fall on something tomorrow while you're out and about, and your ability to shoot a magnum as well as you do now, is gone.. so it doesnt even have to be old age or conditions associated with it

i dont think its a good idea to plan on never being injured (part of the reason i wont use shotguns for home defense)
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Old 11-17-2019, 03:26 AM
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My go to is .327,I also shoot a lot of 45ACP in a Blackhawk,I still like shooting hot 45 colt in the blackhawk,or 454 casull in a SuperRedhawk but couple cylinder fulls is my limit,bad shoulders,bad back,and iffy elbows means if I over do it I'm totally worthless for a few days. getting old sucks!!
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not if you miss its vitals, and two legged animals tend to hunt in packs ;-)
Yeah OK... and that pertains to what I said..... how?

Your constant argumentative comments, about guns you've likely never held, much less shot, while usually amusing, are sometimes just perplexing.....


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Yeah OK... and that pertains to what I said..... how?

Your constant argumentative comments, about guns you've likely never held, much less shot, while usually amusing, are sometimes just perplexing.....


because like most people who get their gun information from hollywood films like dirty harry, a bigger gun doesnt mean a sure kill, you still have to do your part in aiming, pulling the trigger, and hitting the target which is in all likeliness going to be moving as well.. you may very well need all six shots just to hit the target at all, and the time to recover for an accurate followup shot is going to be much longer as well, so to think, like you do, that one shot and they're done, is quite simply being stupid

nothing is "going to kill anything you ask it to" if you're not going to do your part, everything i said above, as well as the general poor concealability of large revolvers, theres no reason, in fact it is a detriment to carry larger revolvers for anything but bear defense
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My go to is .327,I also shoot a lot of 45ACP in a Blackhawk,I still like shooting hot 45 colt in the blackhawk,or 454 casull in a SuperRedhawk but couple cylinder fulls is my limit,bad shoulders,bad back,and iffy elbows means if I over do it I'm totally worthless for a few days. getting old sucks!!

I hear you and yes it does...I've considered a 45ACP conversion cylinder for my BH in 45 Colt, but I don't shoot it enough to justify sending it back to Ruger to be fitted with a second 45ACP Cylinder.
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FWIW, Dirty Harry even admitted in "Magnum Force" that he used 'Special loads" to tame the recoil (yep, Harry Calahan is too much of a sissy to use full power 44 manum rounds).
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well you really cant convince me people walk around with 44 mags, .454s, etc as carry pieces who are doing so for any other reason than to feel macho
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well you really cant convince me people walk around with 44 mags, .454s, etc as carry pieces who are doing so for any other reason than to feel macho
I honestly don't know why some people do what they do, if they want to pack around a 44M, more power to them! I don't think you'll find me doing that any time soon...unless I move to Alaska, which is highly unlikely.
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