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We all know the history of the Minutemen...




Civilian colonists who independently organized to form well-prepared militia companies self-trained in weaponry, tactics and military strategies from the American colonial partisan militia during the American Revolutionary War. They were also known for being ready in a minute's notice.




So, lets have a theoretical discussion about what a modern minuteman looks like. Weapons, gear, etc etc.

Pre-packed and ready to go in...a minute.


Ideally, I would like to stick to civilians and retired military. As/per definition.
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You want weapons and gear to be standardized across the group. Especially everyone within a single area of operations. Do you foresee this hypothetical group having crew served weapons or indirect fire weapons?
obviously if such a group were to face against a modern foe, they would need to adopt a doctrine similar to that used by the Vietcong or other guerilla groups.
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How about more of a basic level.


AR-15, war belt with pistols and mags, durable outfit and hiking boots.

...stashed away in a gear bag with the rifle propped up near by. Ready to toss in the car (horse) and go.




For example.
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Jeans or cargo pants white t shirts, rucksack with ammo, supplies, tan in color, semi auto rifles of common availability, some rifleman with bolt action rifles, and a few shotgunners, helmets if available, work boots, folding 5" knife that clips in pocket, zipties, homemade small explosives,, flashlight led, small folding shovel, light hatchet, handheld radio, water resistant smartphone,prepaid
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How about more of a basic level.


AR-15, war belt with pistols and mags, durable outfit and hiking boots.

...stashed away in a gear bag with the rifle propped up near by. Ready to toss in the car (horse) and go.




For example.
One problem with that rifle is cost. Not everybody can afford it. Also, should the hypothetical group not form soon, said rifles may not be available. Just something to consider.
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I put this together a while back...pretty much how it is now.

This:


With this inside:


Along with these:


And this stuff: (Sling, gloves, cleaning kit, camo netting thing, mags in three outside pouches)




I was not thinking "minute man" when I put it together as much as just a grab and go rifle setup. I'd call it a "good start."
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Also large suv or truck for road transportation, and atv or horse for overland
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I'll chime in later when I have time.
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In addition to the aforementioned arms:

A four wheel drive vehicle (your horse, as it were)
A chainsaw (for clearing or causing obstructions)
Handheld Baofeng radios ($30 each) for comms, and coded phrases printed on a chart. Perhaps a mobile 2-way radio in the 4wd, and also in the homestead with a big antenna. Wifey will want to listen in...
Maps with rendezvous locations, marked out in sections so locations can be given over the radio
There should be a tractor available for reasons which may not be obvious until you need it

All the above may not fit into a typical urban description, but where I live it's perfectly appropriate.

As far as arms go, I think it's better not to require a certain caliber or type. People have what they have, and they should know how to work with it. And when you say "militia" I'm thinking of my neighbors and I banding together, not some silly group of guys who get together and practice maneuvers and patrols (no offense). And let's face it, if it ever comes down to it, my view of it is what it will be for 99% of us.

All my neighbors are armed, obviously, and now I've got some of the Baofeng radios for my wife and I, and one neighbor. Other neighbors are seriously interested in the comms and see the pre- and post- SHTF value. They are already like-minded, in terms of the state of the US. So it's a step closer to readiness.

Clothing: who cares? But white T-shirts? I don't get that. I'd hate to be wearing one at night, trying to sneak around.



(I'm adding to this as I think of things)
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I put this together a while back...pretty much how it is now.

This:


With this inside:


Along with these:


And this stuff: (Sling, gloves, cleaning kit, camo netting thing, mags in three outside pouches)




I was not thinking "minute man" when I put it together as much as just a grab and go rifle setup. I'd call it a "good start."
Still goin with that thigh rig huh?
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In addition to the aforementioned arms:

A four wheel drive vehicle (your horse, as it were)
A chainsaw (for clearing or causing obstructions)
Handheld Baofeng radios ($30 each) for comms, and coded phrases printed on a chart. Perhaps a mobile 2-way radio in the 4wd, and also in the homestead with a big antenna. Wifey will want to listen in...
Maps with rendezvous locations, marked out in sections so locations can be given over the radio
There should be a tractor available for reasons which may not be obvious until you need it

All the above may not fit into a typical urban description, but where I live it's perfectly appropriate.

As far as arms go, I think it's better not to require a certain caliber or type. People have what they have, and they should know how to work with that.

Clothing: who cares? But white T-shirts? I don't get that. I'd hate to be wearing one at night, trying to sneak around.



(I'm adding to this as I think of things)
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Code words/phrases should be memorized and maps should be unmarked . Wouldn't want that information falling into the wrong hands
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Still goin with that thigh rig huh?
Still cant find a belt rig I like...and then jackets in the winter...


I'm probably gonna ditch the pistol drop and get a kydex belt holster though.
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Code words/phrases should be memorized and maps should be unmarked . Wouldn't want that information falling into the wrong hands
In an ideal situation yes. But were talking about (in my view) a loosely organized neighborhood militia, most of whom will not see the value in memorizing stuff like that, until they do. In the mean time, better to be prepared.

I could just imagine talking with my neighbor and asking him to memorize a code chart. We're all a little bit paranoid, but still...

And the great thing about code charts and marked up maps is that they can be made anew.
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Some kind of decent trauma/blowout/IFAK gear that is compact and can be carried on your person.
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Still cant find a belt rig I like...and then jackets in the winter...


I'm probably gonna ditch the pistol drop and get a kydex belt holster though.
Im currently using a modified M7 Para/tanker holster but am looking at a Kenai kydex chest rig by Gunfightersinc

http://gunfightersinc.com/?page_id=251

Its a hunnerd fitty though, before options. Its the pnly Kydex chest rig I have seen.

I also use Clark fork leather chest rigs for winter under jackets
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Nice.


I've had the itch recently to grey-up my gear a bit.

Like "civilian" messenger bags and such. It just slows down my actions so much, and none of it holds things correctly. Like ar mags at the ready, for example.



The 5.11 2-banger and 4-banger are very interesting:
http://www.511tactical.com/2-banger-bag.html

I think I could rig that 2-banger to replace my support side drop-leg...add two more AR mags and a IFAK as well.
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I'm planning a detailed post for later this evening. Great topic.


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I have an ammo (rocket?) box setup for such a thing.

Basically, Alice web gear, tinkered a bit for maximum comfort. AR, mags, pistol and mags, canteens and a camel back, first aid kit, knife and a buttpack of food and other things.

I have a shoulder bag packed full of food ready to go with it if I can carry it.

I still need to get clothing and boots to go in it.

Imagine a Vietnam era GI, that's pretty much it.
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****'s getting real my friend.



Time to have this "theoretical" discussion and help everyone get on the same page and squared away. (If not already.)
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****'s getting real my friend.



Time to have this "theoretical" discussion and help everyone get on the same page and squared away. (If not already.)
I was thinking the same thing, considering recent political news....

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