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I'm a pescatarian for the most part, however, I eat poultry a few times a year. I eat fish, shell fish and eggs a couple times a week. I'm curious what any of you other pescatarians and vegetarians plan to do if there is a time you must eat animal protein. I'm a pescatarian by choice, I've eaten critters that would make the steak loving yahoos in here cringe, I've had muskrat, coon, bear, deer, squirrel rabbit, duck, dove, goose, practically any kind of small game there is. I occasionally still eat meat just so my system won't have a sudden shock if I suddenly have to eat fur bearing critters again. So tell me veggies, what is your plan when the tofu runs out? Are you concerned about the rapid diet change?
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With a meat history like that, you sound Creole.
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I'm not a veggie but I assume I will be living on beans, rice, corn, turnips and whatever I get my hands on if need be. I will not be cannibal, but I guess it's OK to feed them to the dogs.
BTW Acorn bread is awesome.
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I am not a vegetarian, but if I was, I would be trying real hard to set up triple the garden I have now, and canning like a madman.
And making sure that I knew every single edible wild plant in 50 miles.


Trying to be vegetarian would be harder in that aspect. But, I suspect that the tradeoff would be not taking the time to fish, hunt or trap. (Or laying out the expense for that gear.)

To me, it's putting all of your eggs in two baskets: Garden and wild-growth.
Post-SHTF, they will have no access to what can't be grown locally, other than from storage, or maybe by trade or barter. So it may be harder to get the varied diet for optimum nutrition.

I wish them luck. But it's not like it's gonna be "easy" for omnivores either.
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yeah, I don't think vegetarians will have it much harder than anyone else. just because you eat meat doesn't mean you are going to find meat.
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The "One Circle" garden plan is supposedly a nutrient-complete solution to feeding humanity when available crop space shrinks. The claim is that you can grow everything you need in less than 1000 square feet. In reality you need a bit more than that, but the point is, vegan and vegetarian diets are quite compatible with TEOTWAWKI scenarios. And they're probably easier; I would suppose that animal husbandry and hunting and trapping is more difficult than hoeing and double-digging.

http://www.permies.com/t/17401/perma...ss-garden-plan

P.S. I ate a vegan diet for five years, but not anymore, due to health reasons. I don't know how well I'd do health-wise going vegan again.
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I've been a vegetarian for almost 30 years. If the SHTF I will eat whatever I need to to survive.

It's interesting this question comes up so often. I figured the answer would be obvious.
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My wife is a vegetarian and I have discussed the possibility of her having to eat animal proteins in the event of a eotw scenario. Her response was awesome "If I have to, to stay alive I will"! good to know. I have stored alot of vegetarian food to try and assist her.

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Something to think about if there were no Safeways, Ralphs or Walley Worlds food store we will all be veggies because how long do you think the wild animal population will last when EVERYONE is out there shooting or trapping just to stay alive or selling or bartering there game ?


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Kudzu would be another source around here. If things went FUBAR I would have to think in bulk. Large family and all.
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Something to think about if there were no Safeways, Ralphs or Walley Worlds food store we will all be veggies because how long do you think the wild animal population will last when EVERYONE is out there shooting or trapping just to stay alive or selling or bartering there game ?


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yea, not so much.

That's why people keep animals.
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Something to think about if there were no Safeways, Ralphs or Walley Worlds food store we will all be veggies because how long do you think the wild animal population will last when EVERYONE is out there shooting or trapping just to stay alive or selling or bartering there game ?
Yeah, I honestly think the trend would be toward a plant-based diet, not away from it. Or at least, one in which animal proteins play a very minor role.
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I'd wonder more what people who eat animal products and addictive processed foods will do when/if they can't get those. I'm eating a very highly nutritious, vegan diet, with virtually no processed foods, twice a day (no sacks), and have no food cravings. My calorie requirements are low. I can thrive on much less food than most people.
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Funny how many people have responded by talking about the plants they would eat or the extra gardening they would do, but the question was specifically what would you as a vegetarian do "if there is a time you must eat animal protein."

I've been a vegetarian for about 25 years, and in a life-or-death situation I would eat what I needed to in order to survive. Simple. Being a vegetarian isn't a religion. It's a choice based on many things including my health and environmental impact. Starving to death doesn't seem very healthy, and concern about the environment after a nuclear blast or a super-volcano eruption or a comet causing an extinction event would be pretty far down my list of priorities. Rat pt or roasted leg of Rottweiler might sound pretty tasty right about then.
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I don't mean this to be disparaging to the vegans/vegetarians....but...

Ever wondered why humans evolved as omnivores? Because we had to. Subsistence societies had better things to worry about than picky eaters. Nature will take it's course when you're hungry, truly hungry. Most westerners have not had this experience and don't know what it means, but trust me, you'll see the world in a whole new way.
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I'd wonder more what people who eat animal products and addictive processed foods will do when/if they can't get those. I'm eating a very highly nutritious, vegan diet, with virtually no processed foods, twice a day (no sacks), and have no food cravings. My calorie requirements are low. I can thrive on much less food than most people.
That's the key right there.

Vegetative matter in sufficient calories to perform real work is hard to do.....
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I've been a vegetarian for about 25 years, and in a life-or-death situation I would eat what I needed to in order to survive. Simple. Being a vegetarian isn't a religion. It's a choice based on many things including my health and environmental impact.
I was a lifelong vegetarian until recent years. Started eating meat because I was concerned I was becoming too rigid. Now, I think it would be much easier to eat small furry creatures than it would have been for me to do years ago. Bet I could kill one now too.
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What the hell happend to this place?

You're actually concerned about having to eat meat in a survival situation to keep from dying of starvation?!

Hold your breath. That's my oxygen.
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This is why people keep livestock.
I fear that if everyone is out there hunting and trapping to keep alive... my kept livestock will be raided in the middle of the night along with me and my few.

Unless you have a small army protecting it from raiders you will be SOL.

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I fear that if everyone is out there hunting and trapping to keep alive... my kept livestock will be raided in the middle of the night along with me and my few.

Unless you have a small army protecting it from raiders you will be SOL.

and your watercress is going to be safe/defend you how?
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