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Old 07-15-2012, 05:11 PM
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Just throwing my. 02 cents in.

If you're buying a hunting shotgun....then virtually anything will do. If you're buying a fighting shotgun......then I'd get a little more picky. I've personally broken an 870 in training, but it was an OLD police model that had no telling how many rounds through it before I was issued it. The extractor broke.

Having said that, I'm still an 870 guy. After firing countless rounds through issued and personal 870s I can say, yes....they ARE as tough as they come.

That being said, Mossberg does incorporate some features I find to be better. Mainly a one peice magazine tube on their tactical models. Two peice tubes could potentially unscrew if not properly tightened and clamped during firing. And, the location of the safety makes it more ambidextrous.

Cons to me are the Mossy has always seemed significantly lighter to me. Great to carry. Not so great during long firing sequences with full power buck or slug loads. Also, the "Mossberg rattle" just aggravates the **** out of me. It just makes it feel....cheap to me. Like its gonna fall off at any time.

But....at the end of the day, its what you want and what you are comfortable with. I'm speaking from personal experience as a former SWAT type. Having seen both run side by side under the same conditions, I don't think Remington or Mossberg makes a bad tactical product, or that one is more prone to fail than the other. Its just that I believe Remington is a bit beefier where it counts.

And this is the opinion of someone who has fired more full powered buck and slug rounds in 5 day training classes than most shotgunners fire in 20 years. YMMV.
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Some good info and some senseless blather on this thread.
I own several pump shotguns.
I have shot most brands. Quality shotguns all have performed well for me and the several dozen shooters I know. This is a stupid ford chevy argument.

Buy what you want for the features you want.
Barrel length,finish,stocks,capacity,fixed choke vs variable vs screw in,etc...
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well brand wars are everywhere but if a model has ran for decades,it has to be a good model.cant keep making a crappy model for decades and turn a profit,it just doesnt happen.models that only run for 2-3 years is what i worry about,no matter if it is my favorite brand or not.really is no test better then tests of time.so many models have run for 20-30 + years and still flying of the shelves.
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I own an older 590 in Marinecote and a 590A1 in parkerize. Both are good shotguns. I also have an old Model 12 Winchester that was made between 1915 and 1916. Killed a lot of game with it. Single slide bar has never given me a bit of trouble. I've carried the 870 and had to qualify with it. I like it actually better than my Mossbergs. Would I sell my Mossy's? No. They are good enough for me. Would I buy another Mossy? Sure, if the price was right.
I also have an old Ted Williams 12 gause semi-auto that has an aluminum receiver. Took a lot of game with that one, too. Hasn't worn out yet, either. I like shotguns. The older I get, the more I'm inclined to get a high capacity semi-auto rather than a pump, though. Love them ghost ring sights.
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The other one that gets me about cleaning and disassembling the mossy, unless your a white collar union scrub, easy as pie to rip down and clean!!!
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Medal over plastic any time. Totally agree with you.
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