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Old 07-07-2011, 09:18 AM
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I was in my local Wal-Mart and saw they had a Savage bolt action .308 for somewhere around $269.00 . Seems like a great deal. I am not sure what model it was. They also had a Mossberg with scope - .30-06 - for around $370 I believe.

Anyways - anybody have any experiance with these rifles (if you bought them at Wal-Mart)?

Sorry I do not have more info - I will try to get more. Use would be for hunting and any need for longer-distance shooting.

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Could be a few things however it is most likely the Axis line for those prices.

Good rifle that shoots well, lots of proof of this up on Youtube now.

The low end Savage line is superior to the low end Mossberg line based solely upon internet reports and tests. I have not shot either so take that with a grain of salt.
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go with the Savage Axis really good guns
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I love my Mossberg. I have a 500AT 12 ga. Same as the 600 but was sold by Sears when they used to sell guns. I have had it for longer than I care to remember and it has never given me one moment of trouble. (If you didn't know Sears used to sell guns that tells you why I don't care to remember how long it has been) If I needed another one I would buy another Mossberg in a heartbeat.
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It's the Edge/Axis at that price point..personally, I'd pass on the Edge/Axis and get a Stevens 200 for roughly $330...reason being if and when you want to upgrade your rifle you can do so with the Stevens 200 and the standard 110/10 Savage models.

The Edge/Axis is not upgradable, so it's a throw away rifle. You can do better for little more money than the $270. There are better options!!!
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How is it a throw away rifle? I assume that anything made before the model 70 is trash too?

As posted, it is a sub MOA rifle out of the box, how is that a throw away?
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Both are fine guns for the average hunter/shooter. None of the frills that the market tries to convince everybody they can’t live without. After all, unless your going into target competition, you don’t need a high price “tack driver”. As far as caliber, the 308 Win is plenty good for anything you may encounter in the southeast. And the 308 has always been considered an inherently accurate gun.
O f course I’m a big fan of the 30-30 and feel I could live fine with that caliber 99.9% of the time, but I had a nice scope without a home and thought it would be fun to have something that would reach out 400-500 yrds to play with, so I bought a 308 myself. Of course if I was up north in big bear country, I might consider an “06” with a heavy bullet. And Savage does have a great reputation. Haven’t heard much about the Mossberg’s.
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Thanks everyone for the comments - will be stopping by Wal-Mart today to take a look again. Will post exactly what they are when I get back.

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Got one (Savage) in .223 havn't shot it yet, but the test target and info that came with it is impressive for heavy weight .223 bullets..
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How is it a throw away rifle? I assume that anything made before the model 70 is trash too?

As posted, it is a sub MOA rifle out of the box, how is that a throw away?
He said it's not upgradeable. That means when you want to get something better, you "throw away" the rifle and get a whole new one, instead of switching out original parts for higher quality ones. He didn't say it was bad, just that you have to get a whole new rifle instead of incrementally upgrading.
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The buttstock and bolt of the edge/axis feel real cheap to me. I'd spend the extra $100 and get the Savage 11/110 line(which has a much nicer bolt and stock) or go with the Mossberg XL7's for about the same price. Here in Canada, the Stevens 200 seems to be overpriced for what you get.
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I would avoid the Mossberg, my son bought one in 30.06 the scope is crappy and doesnt shoot a very tight group, maybe 3 inches at 100 yards.
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I'm assuming your son bought the Mossberg 4x4? If so, I would agree with you that people should avoid that mossberg. I haven't heard but good things about there XL7's and XS7's though.
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When the Savage Axis is called a throw-away gun the writer is referring to the issue of rebarreling the rifle after 5000-10,000 rounds. The average shooter will never shoot out a rifle barrel. Even barrels that are shot out can be made to shoot acceptable hunting accuracy with cast bullets. Most barrels that are called shot out have been cleaned to death. The majority of the accuracy in a rifle is in the last two inches of the barrel. If the barrel is cleaned from the muzzle, the important two inches can be scraped with the cleaning rod and the rifling worn down. Always clean your rifle from the breach end if possible and always use a cleaning rod made of material softer than gun barrel steel. Brass rods or carbon fiber rods are best followed by a coated steel rod.

Back to the Savage Axis vs. the Mossberg, the Savage is a better rifle. Yes, I have shot both. Now for further shooting, I prefer the Savage rifles with the AccuTrigger. I can shoot a tighter group with the better trigger. If you are only hunting deer sized targets or better, this may not be important to you.

Just the opinions of a 50 year shooter.
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I own and shoot a savage axis in 223.....I am a predator hunter/caller. My savage with fiochi 50 grain VMAX ammo is a serious tack driving son of a gun. I have a Bushnell elite 3200 on it and have consistently hammered mister yodel dog out to 300 yds. Great rifle for the money.....It just might surprise you.
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Savage makes a good little rifle. They have come a long way in the last 20 years.
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Both of them will get the job done, but given those choices I would go with the Savage. If you can find one, go with the XS7. I bought one for my daughter in .308 and had a ball sighting it in.
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I picked up a Mossberg ATR 100 in 30.06 for a "Scout" rifle. I already have an AR, Shotguns and a prepped out Mossberg 702 plinkster (25 rd mags, CP R/G mil dot scope, flash supressor...). I chose the 30.06 as a scout / sniper utility rifle. I also purchased a Center Point 4X16 40 R/G scope for this rifle for $60 at WM. I took it to my local range and after sighting it in, shot a perfert 1" triangle bull at 100 yds. This is a great gun, but if I were to do it again, I might get it in 308 or 270. 20 rounds of 30.06 put an ach in my shoulder for a couple of days....Bought a slip on limbsaver and will report on how well that works. Anyway, for $250 (+$60 for the scope) I am extremely pleased with this gun.
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It's the Edge/Axis at that price point..personally, I'd pass on the Edge/Axis and get a Stevens 200 for roughly $330...reason being if and when you want to upgrade your rifle you can do so with the Stevens 200 and the standard 110/10 Savage models.

The Edge/Axis is not upgradable, so it's a throw away rifle. You can do better for little more money than the $270. There are better options!!!
X2. Stevens is a good gun. I have one in .308. Then I went online and for $50 each, I got a .243 barrel and a .338 Federal barrel as well. After putting a Redfield scope on it, I basically got 3 scoped rifles for $550
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I don't know how true this is but a friend of mine was telling me last night that the walmart firearms are not made with the same parts as the ones sold in other stores. He was telling me the bolts are made from aluminum not steel like others. Does that mean I won't buy one? No but it does explain the price diff.
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