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I recently moved. So I am re-evaluting my GHB and GH plans.

The biggest obstacle between work and home is a sizable river. It is about 100 feet across and slow moving. Must be pretty deep because I see barges on it.

My first plan for crossing is of course to walk across the bridge.

But there is only one bridge reasonably close.

My worry is what if for one reason or another the bridge is not useable?

My first thoughts are swim it and , life jacket for me and water proof bags for my goods.

Second thought is "borrow" a boat.

But what other ideas do you guys have for crossing the river?
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here's my river crossing gear. colapsable, and they fold up really small
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consider a cache (some sort of storage center near river maybe) of a small inflatable boat.......
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You can do it but it is tricky. From memory there is a system of ropes you can use. I have never tried it but have heard it discussed.

I will have a google hunt and see what I can find.

Otherwise floaties might really work. I would sugest wine skins and make a raft for your pack.
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ok...i would either buy a little 2 person raft and keep in auto, or learn how to make an improvised ponchoraft using your poncho like we did back in the day....

here's a link... http://www.aircav.com/survival/asch17/asch17p02.html

the raft from bass pro...
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Even an air mattress can be of great assistance in this situation. Use it to float your gear and swim behind it. It would take up very little room in your GHB.


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As a last resort, put a waterproof liner bag in your ruck. Before you cross, blow it up. Remember to cross downstream from the bridge. You don't want to cross and get pushed down river to the bridge you are avoiding.
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here's my river crossing gear. colapsable, and they fold up really small
LOL! A wise guy, eeeh?
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here's my river crossing gear. colapsable, and they fold up really small
We had the Marine Tactical Version MK-II's we used too...mainly for the city boys who couldn't swim......
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We had the Marine Tactical Version MK-II's we used too...mainly for the city boys who couldn't swim......
lmao, please tell me your jokin". please.
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Thanks to all.

You are pretty much coming up with the same ideas I had. (other than the floaties)

I'll probably settle on a small inflatable kayak. A cheap one.

In the summer I would probably just put on the life jacket and put my GHB in a dry bag and swim it.

Pretty sure I wouldn't make it swimming across like that in winter here. Kayak would keep me out of the water.

I'm probably going off the deep end even considering the need to avoid the bridge.

Next bridge south is close to 30 miles, turns the walk home into about a 70 mile hike.

Using the next bridge north is would be about a 40 mile hike, and adds a couple more bridges to the problem.
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lmao, please tell me your jokin". please.
I'm joking.... pretty good though huh....

seriously, we did have guys that somehow made it thru the sf fitness test, which includes serious pool time, then got into phase 1 and choked/nearly drowned big time during the waterborne stuff...It's not like it was that tough....They were city dudes too.....

All the country boys cruised right thru it.....
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Why not swim it? you mention it in passing like its a bad idea. You know - human swim quite well and we're waterproof. All joking aside, my GHB has all the essential items in ziplock bags and I also pack a Stoic waterproof bag for the whole GHB and my clothes. No big deal. If swimming is out of your comfort zone, I highly suggest that you work any sort of issue like this out since when SHTF, you're comfort zone is in for a rude awakening.
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If you really need a boat, there are collapsible little kayak like-things that wiegh less than ten pounds.

DO NOT rely on being able to swim it. In the even t of something bad happening, BAD THINGS are happening. This includes floods.
Minimum suggested kit; inflatable life-preserver, flippers and bag of dry clothes in plastic.
Ah, but that is probably more bother than a collapsible one-man boat. See how things can get out of hand?
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Do you know that if you wrap a vehicle in a tarp it will float. The key is to have enough surface area to hold up the weight of the vehicle. This means that you may have to increases the footprint by putting boards or logs on the tarp then driving the vehicle over them. Pull the tarp around the vehicle and secure it then bail the water out and you are floating. The lighter and larger the vehicle is the better it will float. To lighten it enough to float you may need to take all of your gear out of it and float it across.
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bridges are chokepoints and going to be logical checkposts for the military or law enforcement ..... check out crossing areas far removed from your bridges
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I have 2 rivers (the James and the Chickahomny) to cross as well as a swamp and several creeks in the almost 40 miles from work to home. The james is a good 200 to 250 yards wide and the chick is either narrow, 30, 40 yards or so or swamp. I still have not come up with a good solution yet for bad, cold weather for me and my gear.
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A Dollar store innertube pool float is packed very small(5"x5"1/8"), inflates easy and, would work great to keep your gear up...for a dollar I have a simular river, very very close and we surrounded by water. I have a stack of those pool rings for my pool and kids..and have them as BOB material without question.

or... You can be like some others and, spend alot on some uber cool, tactical, mall-ninja,zombie proof, Nasa and Fema approved floatation device. :D

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I'm a firm believer in KISS.

1st step. Scout it. Start with topo maps to find possible crossings that are accessible by foot or vehicle. Then go take a look first hand. Keep in mind that anywhere there are convergences or forks, the water will be a lot shallower. If it's two rivers coming together, go upstream far enough to cross both rivers before they converge. Wider areas may also be shallower and have weaker current.

After you find 2 or 3 (or more) likely places to cross, try crossing it. I would stick with swimming, as it's far simpler to accomplish. You can wear a wet suit if it's really cold out, but if it's a quick swim you should be ok to get across and immediately change into dry clothes. Tow your gear behind you with an inflated dry sack inside the bag, or an innertube. Anything that will give you some floatation will work. Obviously, make sure your gear stays dry.

If current is an issue, run a rope around a tree on the bank, and take both sides of the rope with you. You can retrieve the rope when you're done easily by letting go of one end and pulling it in. Walk downstream a little from the rope and you can use it to pull against the current slightly if the current is strong. A long pole can also be used. You plant it downstream and walk an arc around it. Do not underestimate the power of hydraulics, and be prepared to dump your gear and swim if you have to.

After you try this crossing a few times in a few different spots (and remember, you have to swim back while you're trying this) you'll have a much better idea what you need to do and where the best place to do it. Have a backup just in case.

This may sound harder than using an inflatable boat in the trunk of your car, but it's a lot easier than trying to find a boat. It will be plan B if you manage to have a boat, but it will be become plan A if you and the boat get separated. You'll be prepared this way.

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Where do you live? If it gets cold by you this may not be an option.

Anyway I would use a willy pete bag to keep my gear dry and when I have to cross the river I would blow it up as much as I could.


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They work incredibly well.
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