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Old 06-23-2019, 09:15 AM
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How viable would an MP5 clone in 22 long rifle be for a SHTF / TEOTWAWKI event?

What makes an MP5 clone in 22 long rifle different than any other 22 rifle? Weight, cost, sight radius... etc. For example, with a Walther MP5 clone in 22 long rifle, you are going to spend at least $300, probably close to $400, while a new Ruger 10/22 will set you back around $230.

If someone sets a budget of $400 for a new gun and goes with a Ruger 10/22, they can buy the rifle, extra magazines and a truck load of ammo for $400.

For that same $400 and a MP5 clone in 22 long rifle, all they get is the rifle.

If someone wanted to save a few more dollars, get the Marlin model 60 for less than $200. I see used Marlin model 60 rifles at the local pawn shop all the time.

Just from a financial point of view it appears the Ruger 10/22 and Marlin model 60 are a much better investment. Let's say someone bought a Marlin model 60 for $200. With a $400 budget that leaves $200 for ammo and optic. Even with modern prices, $200 will buy a lot of 22 long rifle, even if someone bought CCI Stingers.

So is there any real reason to consider a MP5 clone for a SHTF firearm stockpile? I picked a Walther MP5 clone up the other day and found it interesting. Honest truth is, I have to talk myself out of buying another one.
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Old 06-23-2019, 09:33 AM
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Its the cool factor, as in 'tacticool.'

Recall back in the 90's when there were all manner of 'tacticool' pieces available like AO Thompsons in semi only (and larger than the original design as well), dressed up 10-22's that even came in twin mounts? Or with fake barrel shrouds and suppressors?

The clone fits the same niche. Great convo piece, fun at the range, but you'd be far ahead with the 10-22 or the Model 60, along with all the ammo and such you could buy with the savings.

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I think if I ware still a young buck I might like it. It seems many country boys today play a lot of tactical range games. Today I am more of a prone sniper shooter. LOL
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There is value to a 22lr MP5 clone as a training tool for an actual MP5. ( Mine is based off of a 1022 for use as an M14 training rifle simply because 22lr costs less than 7.62x51mm, and much less felt recoil if the plan calls for very young beginner training.)

It also has a threaded muzzle so a can is a part of the system . ( Have no idea if ops Mp5 clone has a threaded muzzle)


Still evaluating my current 22lr " all purpose rifle"......

https://www.shootingillustrated.com/...ncenter-tcr22/

Spent 220 bucks on mine. ( Iron sights, bolt release, a decent charging handle, built in optics mount, threaded muzzle, sling swivel studs, and more accurate than any of my OEM 1022s or Marlins. )






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I say no also.
Someone sees you at a distance w a 10/22, no big threat.
Same person sees you w a MP5 and your a bigger threat.
So you get to catch a bullet at 300 yards to eliminate a big threat

“Oh wait Mr Sniper, it’s just a 22”
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Im going to say no too.

Even if you had an MP5, I dont see the point, as the real thing is so easy to learn to shoot, even for kids and those unfamiliar with something like it, so why waste the time and effort, especially if its not select fire?

The other issue is, historically, most of these 22 type clones have been kind of sketchy and questionable, build wise, and are more toys than anything serious. I think youd be better off with a stock 10-22 than something like this.

And then there is JFrames thought, if you were to be out and about with it.
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Any firearm SHTF is a tool.
The MP5 copies in 22LR are cool, but there are more efficient, more reliable options in the caliber.

A 10/22, Marlin 60, even a lever gun (Browning BL-22, Winnie 9422, etc...), is probably a better tool.
Better reliability, accessory availability, parts availability, etc....

Heck, there's a very good argument for a nice 22LR bolt gun. A Browning T-bolt is one of the finest 22LR's on the market right now IMHO. Love mine.
Get a threaded barrel version and a can... it's a silent, accurate, and unstoppable killer. (Wish I had gotten a threaded barrel... )

I have an old JC Higgins (Sears brand) model 103, it's a Marlin model 100 I believe. It's a tack driver. Single shot, but absolutely a laser.
22 S/L/LR, and if SHTF was real, and I was worried about ammo usage, it's the kind of firearm I'd be looking to with assurance.

Of course, I have a bunch of other firearms for SD, etc... but if I'm down to what 22LR I'm packing, something like that, the Browning T-bolt, or my Marlin 60 is near the top of the list.
I have 10/22's, I have a S&W M&P15-22, I have a little Savage here too that's pretty good, but I'm impressed with and confident in those three.
Accuracy matters more with small bullets IMHO.
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Now, now every boy should have his toy. Now if you want a real gun buy something else.
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I've a weakness for .22 rifles. I think the Marlin model 60 or the Mossberg Plinkster with the fiber optic sights would be outstanding SHTF rifles for gathering small game. Plinkster especially is so lightweight and reliable. I work at my LGS and have had the opportunity to purchase four model 60's and three Plinksters so far this year for $75 or less. I figure for that price I can pile em up and eventually turn one or more into "parts guns" if the need arises.
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How viable would an MP5 clone in 22 long rifle be for a SHTF / TEOTWAWKI event?

What makes an MP5 clone in 22 long rifle different than any other 22 rifle? Weight, cost, sight radius... etc. For example, with a Walther MP5 clone in 22 long rifle, you are going to spend at least $300, probably close to $400, while a new Ruger 10/22 will set you back around $230.

If someone sets a budget of $400 for a new gun and goes with a Ruger 10/22, they can buy the rifle, extra magazines and a truck load of ammo for $400.

For that same $400 and a MP5 clone in 22 long rifle, all they get is the rifle.

If someone wanted to save a few more dollars, get the Marlin model 60 for less than $200. I see used Marlin model 60 rifles at the local pawn shop all the time.

Just from a financial point of view it appears the Ruger 10/22 and Marlin model 60 are a much better investment. Let's say someone bought a Marlin model 60 for $200. With a $400 budget that leaves $200 for ammo and optic. Even with modern prices, $200 will buy a lot of 22 long rifle, even if someone bought CCI Stingers.

So is there any real reason to consider a MP5 clone for a SHTF firearm stockpile? I picked a Walther MP5 clone up the other day and found it interesting. Honest truth is, I have to talk myself out of buying another one.
No. Because during a shtf event, the only real value of a 22 LR is accuacy. Specifically the ability to hit small game at range, with the first round. This is not an MP5 strong suite so I would not expect it to perform well in 22 LR either.

Buy a target grade 22 LR and mount a good scope on it.
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